to cap a reveler gun

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What amount of HC do i need to cap the revelers gun? 100 hc enough? 120?

[Lifewaster]

I believe you simply need enough to fire the weapon , applies to all vehicle weapons.

[CMaster]

NO, you do need more than the req, but not much more at all. WEP however ahs a very pronounced effect on the aiming, some even dont believe it caps. Still, 120 would easily be enough, 100 probably is.

[IceStorm]

120 HC or so with at least 90 WEP. My HC PE capped his Reveler before he capped his TL70-ish Plasma Cannon.

[Darkana]

My HC PE capped his Reveler before he capped his TL70-ish Plasma Cannon.Maybe it's because the Reveler gun is handled like a TL 55 gun, e.g. it should cap at about the same skill levels like an Unlabeled Plasma Cannon (excluding the T-C requirement).

[vashtyphoon78]

yeah a tl55 gun that drops a warbot titan in 10 seconds and gives rank 55/xx lol

[Kame]

Look for the STR req. the higher it is, the more HC u need (my guess is about 2x STR)

[Obsidian X]

Can't confirm this, but I'm fairly sure the Reveller gun is the equivalent of an all-artifact TL55 Heavy Weapon, so you need significantly less HC than you would for a normal TL55 cannon (as you can't get all arti non-rares).

[Mechanicus]

ive seen some all arti non rares around that tl

[IceStorm]

ive seen some all arti non rares around that tlThe only way that would be possible is using a Laurent barrel, Ultima, another barrel, freq, and handling mods. That would mean no ammo mod, or you'd have to have a 6+ slot weapon or a weapon that was GM created.

My TL55 Plasma Cannon has an Ultima, two barrels and an ammo mod, with one free slot left. It's 115/108/108/115.

[naimex]

Heavy Weapon - Non-Rare


Build Cap:

Damage: 94
Frequency: 94
Handling: 94
Aiming: 94

Ultima Cap:

Damage: 94
Frequency: 110
Handling: 110
Range: 110

Barrel Cap:

Damage: 105
Frequency: 110
Handling: 110
Range: 121

Stabilizer Cap:

Damage: 105
Frequency: 110
Handling: 120 (126)
Range: 120 (121)

Ammo Delivery Cap:

Damage: 105
Frequency: 120 (126)
Handling: 120 (126)
Range: 120 (121)

Energy Barrel Cap:

Damage: 116
Frequency: 120 (126)
Handling: 120 (126)
Range: 120 (132)


5 slots, no ammo mod. So the best would probably be to:


Build Cap:

Damage: 94
Frequency: 94
Handling: 94
Aiming: 94

Ultima Cap:

Damage: 94
Frequency: 110
Handling: 110
Range: 110

Barrel Cap:

Damage: 105
Frequency: 110
Handling: 110
Range: 121

Stabilizer Cap:

Damage: 105
Frequency: 110
Handling: 120 (126)
Range: 120 (121)

Ammo Delivery Cap:

Damage: 105
Frequency: 120 (126)
Handling: 120 (126)
Range: 120 (121)

Ammo Mod:

Damage: 105
Frequency: 120 (126)
Handling: 120 (126)
Range: 120 (121)

[Mechanicus]

ive seen it

[IceStorm]

Heavy Weapon - Non-RareYour build cap of 94% isn't accurate. Build cap on a TL55 Unlabeled Plasma Cannon is going to be 93%.

What I've just noticed is that my NC1-transferred regular weapons are missing their Ultima-generated stat boosts. My range on the TL55 and TL72 Plasma Cannons is the same as if I added two barrels. That's not right as Ultimas gave range boosts. :-(
ive seen itThen you've seen it with a description containing Ultima and Laurent, you've seen a GM-created weapon, or you're looking at an Epic item.

Laurents gave 18% damage/range, so with a Laurent and standard Barrel, it's possible to add 29% damage/range to an item. 93% + 29% = 122%, or 120% since the engine won't "overcap" items.You still need to add 27% to frequency and handling to make a TL55 Plasma Cannon completely artifact. 16% from an Ultima, then another 16% from a gyro and ammodelivery, leaving you no slots open for ammo mod.

Without a Laurent, the best you'll see is 115% damage on a TL55 Unlabeled Plasma Cannon. The regular TL72 Plasma Cannon's base build stats are even lower, so you won't see a 120% TL72 Plasma Cannon without a Laurent.

[vashtyphoon78]

were not talking about cannons and there stats people...this is a VEHICLE.

[IceStorm]

were not talking about cannons and there stats peopleYes, we are. Because it's mounted on a vehicle does not make it any less of a cannon.
...this is a VEHICLE.Maybe you should re-read the thread. The point of the weapon conversation is to point out that the Reveler is effectively an artifact TL55-ish weapon and as such has much lower HC/Wep reqs to cap. Certain people think it's possible to get all-artifact TL55-ish weapons. We're pointing out that it effectively isn't possible (Laurents don't drop any more).