Dev's need a wastelands biology lesson

[Toxen]

Ok these a few amusing bugs with trophies, not much really but its just about putting the finishing touch on an excellent addition to the game sorry its so graphics intensive about a meg in total so hang on its worth it.

Marsh Hippo Trophy
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6122/marshhippo9wg.png (http://imageshack.us)

This ones basic to correct really just the icons are wrong, for reference the model on the wall is the one currently been used for the swamprider trophy and the icons that are been used for the swamp rider are the ones for the marsh hippo.

Swamp Rider Trophy
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1928/swamprider1lq.png (http://imageshack.us)

Again just basic mess ups, icons for swamp rider are for the marsh hippo, notice no rider in the carcass icon, as for the trophy used the marks on the side of the head to make sure it didn't belong to that mob, and that it should be a mage head as the only mob in the swamp beside mages themselves to have that type of model.

Marsh Saurus Trophy
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7401/marshsaurus3xe.png (http://imageshack.us)

Why have two forms of marsh hippo type trophy... simply there isn't. Icons are correct models correct, simply it just drops from the wrong mob and is named wrong, It should be coming from the swamp warrior.

Grim Persecutor Trophy
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7991/grimpersecutor6cm.png (http://imageshack.us)

Simple case of the mob dropping the wrong trophy and it been named wrong the icons and model both belong to the grim chaser class which its own trophy drop at the moment still appears to be bugged. Wouldn't be suprised if Grim Persecutors turn out to be these mysterious long necked mutants that no one can identify yet.

Giant Raptor Trophy
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9200/giantraptor2qk.png (http://imageshack.us)

This is probably most well known mess up with the trophies and is fairly obvious, named wrong, drops from the wrong mob should be Mutant Bat Trophy

Giant Black Scorpian Trophy
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6544/scorpian1vk.png (http://imageshack.us)

Again drops from wrong mob and named wrong, what also suprised me this along with the chaos mob trophies are the only ones that are limited to caves from the way most trophies were it seemed that trophies avoided high level caves.

Chaos Trophies
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1893/chaos7ur.png (http://imageshack.us)

This ones rather complex, but safe to say at the most basic level the trophies are swapped at the moment this can be seen by the number of legs on the trophies compared to the mob, but then if you bring coloration into it non of the chaos mobs are orange (cept maybe chaos vampire). So this forces us to look outside of the chaos caves for the mobs they should drop from. Personally the entire color scheme for the Creeper and Gnawer mobs isn't consistent

A Brief little survey for you of Creeper and Gnawer mobs with colouration and number of legs oraganised by rank highest at the top.

Creeper WHITE 4
Gnawer WHITE 2
Canyon Creeper RED 4
Canyon Gnawer RED 2
Small Creeper RED 4
Small Gnawer RED 2

Giant Sewer Rat Trophy
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6011/giantsewerrat9zh.png (http://imageshack.us)

This ones a little complex it's dropping from the wrong mob ie Giant Dieseased Rat, yet the icon for the carcass matchs that mob but the trophy icon and model match up to the Giant Sewer rats, which has an extremely rare spawn these days I think i've seen perhaps two of them in NC at all. Also the drop rate on this trophy is still like those from prior to the patch.


Other items of note include:

The carcass Icon for the hoverbot trophy actually looks like a hover bomber but everything else on that trophys good except the drop rate which seems to be set to long like the Giant Sewer Rat Trophy.

The Terror raptor trophy Icon has part of the Grim Chasers legs in the icon.

Spider Queen loot drops appear to be bugged and no ones got a trophy of spider queen yet it appears it either set to really rare drop or its bugged completely.

Cave Spider trophy..... well people originally thought this was meant to be a hairy spider trophy, but by the master hunters list its sposed to be Cave Spider, but as quite a few people have stated the only place they rember cave spiders was the TG Canyon indoor caves which are no longer accessible because their entrances have been removed, also I think the most of the big lizard spawns were in the Indoor caves aswell.

Fierce Gliders are now nowhere to be seen now and they used to be quite common I know I spend alot of time in the swamp just check the number of times I've put tickets into get Trader NPC's out there reset cus they've gone busy.

Other trophies I've hunted extensively and appear to be either bugged or have the extremely rare drop rate include.
Big Reaper Spider
Floating Jelly
Alpha Wolf


Hopes this helps

Toodles

[Mystic-Crusader]

5 stars, all corret and important and very nice with all the screen shots. Hopefully devs will take notice.

[CMaster]

Very good work. Byt the way, I know at least one person who has a Reaperspider trophy, but the drop rate could be rather tlow, and there do seem to be real issues wuth a spider trophy. ALso, running TH -> MB I came across a lone fierce glider.

[Toxen]

yar got hold of a reaper spider when I went out hunting after this post, all good cept the long drop rate

[Mystic-Crusader]

1 thing, the highest lvl green bat is the 100/100 chaos vampire bat (chaos caves) or the 100/100 swamp bat (swamp caves)

[Toxen]

Just got back from three hours straight of hunting Floating Jellys I say hunting what I really mean is just literally farming them as they spawn so I got through about 100 of them and no drop, so Im officially declaring it as bugged.


1 thing, the highest lvl green bat is the 100/100 chaos vampire bat (chaos caves) or the 100/100 swamp bat (swamp caves)

Im excluding caves from those notes as from the other evidence I don't think any of the trophies are sposed to include cave only mobs.

[Toilet-Duck]

5 stars, all corret and important and very nice with all the screen shots. Hopefully devs will take notice.

Agreed 5 Stars :D

[Richard Blade]

I got a fierce glider in F-03 a couple days ago. Along with 3 swamp rider trophies.

I made a run from NC gate through point red then north. As soon as I hit Gravis, I started hunting spawn points for 15 to 20 minutes each. (roughly)
When I got over to F-03 and I think F-04, I had some spawns that wouldn't slow down. The fierce gliders go down just as fast as the other types of gliders, unless you pay close attention, it's easy to miss their tags.
I'm usually surrounded by hippo's, swamp warriors and a couple of pissed off mages and or novices. When the mages start spawning gliders, I think that's when I started seeing the fierce ones.

Ramble ramble. I hope this was close enough to topic. But, yes, you don't see that many Fierce Gliders out there. Probably 1 or 3 in four hours of hunting.

[NONpk]

2 words:

PATCH TIME :D


5 stars. cool thing.

[Freeejumper]

cant you just do pvp ? :P

but nice work hehe

[IceStorm]

Just got back from three hours straight of hunting Floating Jellys I say hunting what I really mean is just literally farming them as they spawn so I got through about 100 of them and no drop, so Im officially declaring it as bugged.And your combat rank compared to the Jelly? As this is loot-based, it's entirely possible your combat rank is too high. I switched to a 60-ish% Lazar Rifle and removed my PA. With Combat Rank 5, I got a Big Black Roach remains in about 10 kills. Same for the Drom. On my 71/57 Combat Spy, I've seen no WBT remains. On my 70/63 Spy, I've gotten four from about 20 or 30 WBT kills.

[Toxen]

take ur pick im usually 3/** or 10/** or 18/** when im hunting for trophies put it this way if a mob gives you cash it will drop a carcass at some point kinda proved that by gettin a drom carcass while hunting it with combat rank about double its own rank.

[Bugs Gunny]

I suggest that they let Toxen loose on the testserver.
Toxen, you are on perfectionist, driven and totaly patient NUTCASE !!!!

Awesome post and very thorough.

[Scanner Darkly]

Looks like you schooled them there professor Toxen ;)

http://www.sdarkly.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/nc/einstein.jpg

[Richard Blade]

take ur pick im usually 3/** or 10/** or 18/** when im hunting for trophies put it this way if a mob gives you cash it will drop a carcass at some point kinda proved that by gettin a drom carcass while hunting it with combat rank about double its own rank.


I've done all my hunting on the back of a Combat Hover Tech. 17/** and 18/** depending on the buffs and or zones(op bonus). Soon, I'm planning to recycle a bunch of lazar pistols and haunting the sewers.
But, I've got the previous mentioned Fierce Glider, 2 Alpha Wolves, 1 Drom, 3 Marsh Riders, 1 Marsh Saurus, 1 Decayed Horror, 1 Decayed Brute. All at the rank mentioned above.

Never got anything from Floating Jelly's.

I even pulled down a few 120/120 Hoverbombers while on it. Then I found out it's not the right mob. :(

[-FN-]

*****

Excellent, in-depth analyzation :)

[Heavyporker]

wow... just how much time did you spend getting all these trophies to analyze?

[Toxen]

Bout two days

[Heavyporker]

Impressive.

These trophies look interesting. I must embark upon a great quest of slaughter and gather these trophies for myself, then.

Have you had any problems with placing these trophies?

[Riddle]

Floor trophies such as WB, Scorpion, Wolf - No problem with placement on floor or ontop of cabinets.

Wall trophies, Drom, chaos etc. can be a bit time consuming but acheivable.

The object removal tool is hard to use aswell so be warned. ;)