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thoes guys are still around
Dear Aaron,
We are happy to announce that the next development chat is just around the
corner. The plan is to hold the Dev Chat on Monday, July the 11th at 18.00 UTC.
If you want to know what that is in your local time, take a look at the
following link and search for your city:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=11&month=7&year=2005&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=37
The Chat will be held in the main Face of Mankind IRC channel:
Server: irc.usrv.de
Channel: #faceofmankind
The Dev Chat will give you the opportunity to actually meet the developers and
get answers to your most important questions from them directly. To get you a
bit excited we will give you a list of the developers who will participate in
the chat:
Marko "[duplex]" Dieckmann (DPS: Programming, Game Design)
Bram "Opiate" Venneman (DPS: Programming)
Christopher "Barkey" Bartlett (DPS: Level Design)
Christian "NoFL" Oesch (DPS: Level Design)
Christopher Dierks (DPS: Music & Sound)
Christian "Kelly" Winter (Ojom - Publisher: Project Management)
Jasper "Gagglezoomer" Bongertz (Ojom - Publisher: Technical Engineer)
The chat will have 4 sections:
1. Introduction: The developers will introduce themselves to you briefly.
2. Plans for the future: In this section the developers will reveal their
roadmap to release. The following topics will be covered:
- Game engine upgrade
- New character models and animations
- New features such as professions, squads and beginner missions
3. Your questions: At this point the moderators will ask specific community
questions which have been brought up in a forum thread and will be asked with
reference to the name.
4. Other questions (optional): In this section you will be able to send
questions to the moderators who will forward them to the developers.
You are all invited to participate and join the chat.
The channel is going to be moderated, and the standard IRC rules apply. If you
are not familiar with them, take a look at the FoM Forum post concerning IRC:
http://forum.fomportal.com/showthread.php?t=4242
Please note that a lot of people will join the chat and we expect everyone to
follow the rules.
For information regarding the protocol of how to ask questions, check the
information announcement when entering the channel on Monday.
If you want to discuss possible questions to ask during the Dev Chat, please
post them here:
http://forum.fomportal.com/showthread.php?t=15163
Yours sincerely,
FoM Development Team.
mmm ok. i never actualy got around to even playing there game...
heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey. who fancies getting a mass ban advertising NC on there IRC =]
I got it too.
I had downloaded it, installed it, and played for a day.
It just didn't have the neocron feeling. It has plenty of potential though:)
I downloaded it.
Created my char, picked faction, got into my appy, gr'd out to see what my home city is like...only to be killed within a second of appearing.
One clone lost, and a load of cash healing myself back up, bugger.
I tried gr'ing to another planet area once I was ready and ran about a bit, wondered how they managed to make the character animations look so bloody awful.
Spent a few hours working everything out, decided they have just made everything stupidly complex(and I thought NC had a steep learning curve?) and more importantly forgot to give the game that key element known as *fun*.
Not the game for me, not by a longshot.
Downloaded it, Played for about 2 hrs , unistalled it.
And yes I got their mail too :rolleyes:
But the game just didn't do all that for me. Tradeskilling way more boring than NC :lol: never mind those bloody graphix and stupid run ...anyway it sucked bad.
ya know what... i dont think i even care enough to go crash there irc, lol :lol:
Tutorial is about the best bit at the mo, nothing to do it all relies on Players which is harsh for a mmo if u ask me since there are times where u dont want to associate but i had no clue wtf to do got pked within 5 mins of playing got bored, unistalled...
although it has weather like SNOW!!!!!
Jesterthegreat
11-07-05, 19:39
when i played there was no tutorial. missions were too rare, and it was just about the only way to get money in the beginning.
all that happened was some guy shot you before you bought a weapon (why i think the LE should be left in NC) and waste your clones... plus loot anything you had managed to get.
was a laugh abusing the fact that they didnt give knives or grenades animations... killing people in massive groups without them knowing who it was, or dropping a gren into the middle of a group of LED's (cops)... but it got old fast.
darkservent
11-07-05, 20:38
So You all complained about the graphics. Look at this shit
http://www.touchdownentertainment.com/jupiter.htm
Thatll be the new engine for FOMK after it ran into limitations. Youll all be saying dam itll be another year or two till it goes gold. Well suprisingly they got the worlds changed over to the new engine and is gonna be tested in the next few weeks. Kinda shocked myself.
thought the plan file was a bit strange in commin.... 7:55pm.... lol
Might improve the game on that engine but they still need to add some ai stuff so you dont completely rely on players to get stuff done
darkservent
11-07-05, 21:02
well apparantly theres gonna be a more friendly approach to it. The player based missions will still be there but will become a advanced bit of the game. Theyve incorporated the basic missions in that will allow users to join and leave at anytime with not start and end time as the advanced missions have.
They also have professions to specialise with each being needed and not to allow the economy to be so fucked as it is know. Actually this update in the game really does secure its future too if ya think about it.
Twas a bit of a mockery when I tried it last, I'm D/Ling the client again at the moment.
darkservent
11-07-05, 21:09
Twas a bit of a mockery when I tried it last, I'm D/Ling the client again at the moment.
Why bother cause theres gonna be so many changes to it.
meh maby ill give it another shot next year, but it just dont feel like nc, it just dont have the same shnizzel =] n hey it dont have you guys *hugs* can u feel the love
Why bother cause theres gonna be so many changes to it.
Just to see whats what really.
Whens the new engine being implemented? D'ya know?
Jesterthegreat
11-07-05, 21:15
Twas a bit of a mockery when I tried it last, I'm D/Ling the client again at the moment.
imma find the link and do the same...
:edit: downloading my auto assault pre order content at the same time... bye bye bandwidth
:edit2: look at the amount of patches and amount of fixes... i'm in love!
yes that engien looks good :angel:
Actually quite interested to see how far the games come since last I saw...
darkservent
11-07-05, 21:27
Just to see whats what really.
Whens the new engine being implemented? D'ya know?
Well they got most of it sorted with the help of lithtech to do the conversions and there doin internal testing. Cant say for sure though when theyll upgrade. But Im sure it wont be anything as long as Duke Nukem Forever, Well I hope not.
One thing I can say about FOMK is the tutorial as it is is pretty dam brilliant. Very simple and straight to the point.
Jesterthegreat
11-07-05, 21:36
heh.
my experiances in the old FOMK were kill loads of people and eventually get a ql3 pistol and ql3 rubber bullets... then stun people and arrest em :D
loved it.
til a cop did the same to me. i had slaughtered countless innocents :D
spent ages and ages mining rock in the prison...
actualy im tempted to start FoMK again, i think it would be fun getting about 5 of me mates together and shoot holy hell out of anything we can find for a week or so
Jesterthegreat
11-07-05, 21:47
well i'm up for rolling around with some NC boys exploring a strange new world...
if you've got the money, i've got the time ;)
darkservent
11-07-05, 21:49
well just found out the engine upgrade is planned for in about few weeks.
well just found out the engine upgrade is planned for in about few weeks.
youch, we can wait a week, ice ll be back from spain rope him in, then just melt any noobs we come across for a week or 2,
Second throughts my pc may be goods gift by my graphics card is a gforce 2, my pc is only uber cos rendering on 3d designers needs memory and raw prosessing power not a decent grafix card, will a gforce 2 mx do it?
-*edit*- and if i do play its strickly to vent some anger that i cant vent here in NC =P
Jesterthegreat
11-07-05, 22:05
lol...
PCI-E gf fx 6600 ultra here...
athlon 64 bit, 1 gig kingston platinum ram, western digital 7200 rpm hdd...
i need to start upgrading again :(
lol...
PCI-E gf fx 6600 ultra here...
athlon 64 bit, 1 gig kingston platinum ram, western digital 7200 rpm hdd...
i need to start upgrading again :(
dual opteron when i can find another 64 cpu at a decent price
So FoMk isn't the same pile of shite that it was at the beginning of open beta? Might have to take a look again, otherwise I'll just wait for Auto Assault to go to open.
Jesterthegreat
11-07-05, 22:47
So FoMk isn't the same pile of shite that it was at the beginning of open beta? Might have to take a look again, otherwise I'll just wait for Auto Assault to go to open.
dunno... downloading fom again now and pre ordered auto assault (for garunteed beta slot, a pre order only weapon that upgrades everytime you level, exclusive pre order content such as story line info not on the website, and a loot bonus - more likely to find better things).
not bad considering it was £28 iirc.
dunno... downloading fom again now and pre ordered auto assault (for garunteed beta slot, a pre order only weapon that upgrades everytime you level, exclusive pre order content such as story line info not on the website, and a loot bonus - more likely to find better things).
not bad considering it was £28 iirc.
Not a bad offer at all, if only " certain game" offered incentives like that ey? :lol:
sanityislost
11-07-05, 23:17
Played FoMK about 2 months ago for shits and giggles.....not really much going
on apart from alot of people camping zone points into the main city areas. Only
time its possible to get some kind of weapon is when nobody is on lol....mostly
just a gankfst right now with no roleplay.
SiL ..:..
Played FoMK about 2 months ago for shits and giggles.....not really much going
on apart from alot of people camping zone points into the main city areas. Only
time its possible to get some kind of weapon is when nobody is on lol....mostly
just a gankfst right now with no roleplay.
SiL ..:..
a gank fest would be fun if we can gather 4-10 players for a short period
Jesterthegreat
11-07-05, 23:40
Not a bad offer at all, if only " certain game" offered incentives like that ey? :lol:
considering the main reason people get pre-order is to get into the beta, this rewards the people who test the game (whether its game issues or simply server stability).
this is more than most MMO's do. and something that i'm sure will be appriciated.
Like I said - a shame other games don't offer incentives like that.
Anyhow - yesh - am up for a gankfest in there - and maybe some NC pimpage.
I'll post my name and faction up.
wonder if we are alowed NC- in our name
ran out of time to edit, erm gimmi a link to download, im lazi
Like I said - a shame other games don't offer incentives like that.
Anyhow - yesh - am up for a gankfest in there - and maybe some NC pimpage.
I'll post my name and faction up.
Heh good luck making money with fines comming out your wallet for wanting to play as a criminal, you want to gank people then just don't play this game save your self the vomiting.
Oh and if you continue some how to be an arsehole for killing your enemys and I say some how because the ammo is really expensive. You will be booted out your faction and get moved into some other one by another player with high rank. Then if you continue you only get booted by the next guy and the next, there is no factionless state your character becomes perma dead oh how fun and realistic...
Heh good luck making money with fines comming out your wallet for wanting to play as a criminal, you want to gank people then just don't play this game save your self the vomiting.
Oh and if you continue some how to be an arsehole for killing your enemys and I say some how because the ammo is really expensive. You will be booted out your faction and get moved into some other one by another player with high rank. Then if you continue you only get booted by the next guy and the next, there is no factionless state your character becomes perma dead oh how fun and realistic...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Where there's a will, there's a way. Besides - it's only for a few days :p
I dunno - I might actually give it a proper go :p
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Where there's a will, there's a way. Besides - it's only for a few days :p
I dunno - I might actually give it a proper go :p
blasfimy
we gank and kill and masicarr, prf, giving it a proper go, next ull be saying lets all quit nc and play it :angel: lets just stick to melting noobs with high powerd weapons
I'll try the Beta...
betta be fun... :p
blasfimy
we gank and kill and masicarr, prf, giving it a proper go, next ull be saying lets all quit nc and play it :angel: lets just stick to melting noobs with high powerd weapons
Chances are your gank squad will get ganked by some dude with some better weapon than you when u spawn anyway.... so once your all outta clones u gonna have to roll again and again...
TBH you wont really be doing anything different to what a good majority of the fomk population does already and good luck buying a high powered weapon.... looked well expensive when i last checked :p and if u do get one chances are you wont have it long as said gank squad will take it when they kill u
Well - I'm patching up now...
I figured My name'll be NC-Phayse if it's allowed :p
Jesterthegreat
12-07-05, 19:46
also patching...
Nope.
Syill very much at the deep end - it's rained improvements since I last played tho - very impressed with the game.
Key gripes
I can't tell who's in what faction, which means I can't see who's hostile.
I was unable to see what areas are hostile to me.
Still the random gank mentality - which says to me that there is little else to do
I can't see any kind of storyline still.
Jesterthegreat
12-07-05, 21:58
Still the random gank mentality - which says to me that there is little else to do gotta disagree... those turret things stop any real pking in a main town. i just went on a raid with about 30 LED / FDI and got myself a full inv of items... ql3 of so many armour types, and about 15 full clips of ql3 energy cell ammo.
money shouldnt be an issue either.
I can't see any kind of storyline still.
bear in mind its still in beta. that's not to say it will be much better in retail, just that i reserve judgement on storyline to non-beta :p
Bloody hell...there's a lot of pricks in this game!
OK so i'm new to the game...I understand...
Coming out my nice looking Japanese apartment in Tokyo, I see a friendly soul run by and asks if i'm Ok, I ask "where do people hang out"
she says, well people need of your type need help fighting in yukon"
So i says thanks and i go to the vector terminal to Newyork...
It 1st started In Tokyo, i went to a vector terminal or what ever it's called. and I asked a guy, "how do i get to Yukon" (I was told people of my faction were there and liked fighting" So a guys tells me how to buy a ticket, all's ok then he quickly tells me to stop...says" come with me, my friend has a drug that will give u unlimited stamina for 15 mins, So i says thanks, follow him.
his mate says "yeah I got that package" then gets his gun out, they both stare at me and they blast me to death... "Shit only a ticket to Yukon, cost me more in ammo to kill him!" is what i hear.........
So of course I didn't know this was a trap...I was new...
Here's the next part of my story,
I have to sit In a fucking cloning tube at this medical place, can't get out for like 5 minutes because i died...Lost me armour and ammo...Not very good...
I then take the vector warp thingy to yukon......
Then i see a line of men in green suits with guns out...I shit myself and run, 1 guy says "don't worry, accept a mission and join us" So i says "fine...how do I?" "Follow me " he says...
Takes me to this interrogation looking room and opens the security locked door...Says "go through and i'll drop some items for ya"
So i think hard...and say "I don't trust you"
he says" lol don't worry, come on"
So i go right through...
the door shuts behind me and i try to run back out when i see his gun come out...
Boom!
I'm blown away in this depressing looking room...
I've had it just about with this game...
It's a bit...shit! :mad:
Jesterthegreat
12-07-05, 22:24
AHAHAHAHHAA
that was us at yukon
fantastic.
phear the green / blue alliance of cops and military!
:edit: i really can't express the hilarity of your post...
you thought someone would give you a drug that gives "unlimited stam for 15 mins"?
after reading this thread as to how the game was last time we played?
Was it?
YOU BUGGER! :mad:
fuck sake...I dunno whether to laugh...
Jesterthegreat
12-07-05, 22:45
i'd laugh... then try it again without being so niave (spelling).
its like people in NC telling you to remove your LE then killing you. its annoying... but doesnt make the game bad.
:edit: i logged on and had nothing. no weapon even.
i rated a few missions... you get 50 credits for each one you rate. i then got a ticket to brooklyn (shopping place) nad hung around til someone left a gun out too long and died... then looted the fucker.
carried on like that until someone in my faction posted a mission... then went there and looted everyone who died til i ran out of inv room... then went back to brooklyn and stuck the stuff for sale on the terminals to get money to buy a weapon.
But it's sooo fucking boring sitting there, all my stuff gone!
Since you seem to know what the hell to do,
....Could i have a few tips? :(
Jesterthegreat
12-07-05, 23:10
But it's sooo fucking boring sitting there, all my stuff gone!
Since you seem to know what the hell to do,
....Could i have a few tips? :(
er... read above.
join a mission ASAP.
press escape, and read the tool tips for each button on the top left. find something like "rate mission" and rate as many as poss (scroll the bar to the right to a random % then wait for the "submit" button to be clickable). you get 50 credits each time (can do 6 or 7 a day i think).
once you got money you got 2 options.
1. try to find a weapon and ammo cheap. different terminals (different zone's terminals. not different ones in the same zone) sell different things at different prices. its a 100% player based economy.
2. forget spending money... leech for a bit.
once you decided there, try to find a mission (top left again. one of them is faction missions or some such). go where you have to go and follow your team around (theres no team indicators and no team chat :() loot everyone that dies, ally or enemy :p
once your inv is full, you can either stay with em for protection or make a break for a vortex portal.
just remember to delete / drop an item to free up space for a vortex ticket :p
thanks :p
What's the faction i was in, do better than the cops?
Cops can arrest :p
Jesterthegreat
13-07-05, 00:29
i think you need to be promoted to arrest.
the factions, as well as the economy, is 100% player run.
my closed beta account is high enough to arrest people :D
gotta disagree... those turret things stop any real pking in a main town. i just went on a raid with about 30 LED / FDI and got myself a full inv of items... ql3 of so many armour types, and about 15 full clips of ql3 energy cell ammo.
Yeah - I was sposed to be joining one - I joined right after getting to my appt. Zoned out of appt and into a park. Killed.
Been sticking to the areas with turrets ever since - while I wait for the next mission I can take part in. Gawd - I was reviewing missions earlier - Defend the populace mission - essentially the team were there to stop BoS infiltration. What did they do? Slaughter the entire civvy population of teh area =/
It's not the game thats bad, it's the people playing it. actually well, yeah - for people to be that lousy the game does have some serious loopholes.
Like I said - raining improvements tho :)
Edit - that said - It's quite easy to get ahead in the game if yer a bit of a twat about things :p summat I have a lot of experience in.
=NC-Phayse= - LED
hopefuly ill be ingame withing the week, i wana gank noobs damit :d
Dr Strange
13-07-05, 06:50
I downloaded it.
Created my char, picked faction, got into my appy, gr'd out to see what my home city is like...only to be killed within a second of appearing.
One clone lost, and a load of cash healing myself back up, bugger.
That is why unless they rework the newbie system, the game will completely fail.
My first FoMK account experience:
Create character, gr out of appy, die within moments thanks to half a dozen guys fully equipped with rifles and armor camping the spawn-vortex thing.
Respawn, wait a while to see if they leave, and spawn back in. Their gone, so I leave my guy logged off behind some building. I start searching for info on the death system, which hey look it took them like a week when the open beta started, to get their forums up. So I head to their site, only to find a brief summary of the game, and screenshots. No content information at all.
So after googling, I find out it has a perma-death system. Your "clones" are basically your lives, and you can buy more, or buy insurance for deaths and whatnot. Ok, easy enough. The catch was it was perma death. So if you ran out of clones, your account could not make a new character for 24 real life hours. Awesome.
So I log back in, and start gunning for the nearest terminal to where I can spend all 50k of my starting money on more lives and insurance, cause I didn't want to waste a day incase I ran out of "lives". I was already down to two clones, and wow, I'm randomly ganked in the street. One life left. I gr to a completely different city, to a what-you-would-think is a empty district far from the main portion of the city, only to be spawn killed, again, at the vortex spawn thing.
So I was out of clones, unable to buy more or insure the ones I had before I died too many times. My account was perma-death locked for 24 hours.
I uninstalled almost instantly after that.
Sure, it's open beta. Sure, they "have time", to make changes. But it was, blah. I honestly felt that even though it was a free, open, MMO beta, they owed US money for trying the damn game out. Let alone that the fact it would eventually become a pay-to-play MMO....
And yea sure, some will say (I'm sure some have) that "perma death is part of the game, you accept that when you play it" considering how back when the open beta started, there was virtually almost little to no information avaible about the game. The official site was 99% screen shots with a few paragraphs of over-view text "it's a futuristic world where blah blah blah". The official forums took forever to be brought up so you couldn't ask other beta players. The only source of info I found, was an extension google search that turned up a site/blog of a alpha tester who was no longer under NDA (this was back during day 1/2 of open beta, so I'm sure much more is avaible to players now).
The point of that? You didn't know it was permadeath, you had no clue. And even when you did learn it, your chances of survival were almost none. There were hundreds of guys who had already managed to get their hands on a rifle or pistol and just camp the vortex spawns. You'd literally see 4 guys, all in full armor and rifles, camp the vortex as HUNDREDS of newbies would come through. Yea not all at once but in a steady-stream. One or two every 30 seconds or so (in the major cities) and they'd just be mowed down left and right. At that time you had only one choice of spawns: log in/make new character, start in apartment, spawn at the vortex. That's it. The lucky ones were the guys who spawned alongside two or three others and managed to sprint away before the others gunned him down.
Sure the storyline and gameplay has potential, but it had HORRIBLE implementation for new players. I mean pure crap. The game ran well, looked decent, performance was nice on low end systems, the movement physics were ok (not NC's but, ok).
Overall I'd never, ever, pay for that game.
Jesterthegreat
13-07-05, 08:11
*sigh* why is it that in the combined time of when i used to beta test it and when i started again now i have only been killed twice?
some people are just natural victims a swear...
hmm permadeath...
this game's starting to sound really interesting...
*downloading*
[TgR]KILLER
13-07-05, 12:39
my fomk exp goes way back till second closed beta. ( at least think it was second ) just found an e-mail saying i was in. was a year ago now cause i remember it was a week before i went on summer holiday. played it for that week after that i couldn't login no more for some stupid reason. i kinda gave up. the only real thing i did in a week was mini and transport stuff wasn't anything else.
but if i quit nc someday i won't play another mmorpg i gues. aint worth my money for the time i gotta put in and want to put in.
now people were always complaining about nc release dates.. afaik fomk was ment to release about nc2 release at the end of last summer.. now its gonna take another year / 2 years lol.
well I think you're just lucky jester cus as I said, I picked my faction spawned in appy, took the vortex out to my home town and was dead 2 seconds later to a squad of like 5+ people camping the vortex point...I don't see what I could've done differently in that situation?
Since you started in the closed beta I think you got time to learn the ropes of the game before all the asshats flooded in(as they do in pretty much every open beta).
Ok, somone grabbed me on IRC and told me to explain stuff here...oooh boy....
ok, first off if anyone needs a little help, e-mail me, main character is Gaunt MkVenner, FDC - Marines, the forums are a good place to get help too, but I warn I am getting a bit low on money...
Since they dropped the starting cash from 50k to 10k noobs have had it harder, but it was required because of people farming accounts.
Now, politics in this game are a major thing, at the moment the Brotherhood of Shadows is at war with the FDC, and the FDC control all of the major cities your going to want to hang out in. Nobby, if you are LED/FDC and was killed by another one tell me his name or report him to the FDC ISD (Internal Security) or the LED IAD (Internal Affairs), he'll get delt with. That 15 min unlimited stamina drug is Quality Level 1 Biphetamine, it sucks, get QL 3, that gives you an hour of unlimited stam.
The best faction for a noob at the moment is the Freedom Defence Corp, EuroCorp or American Enterprises, but don't choose AE if you might hang around as the faction is getting merged with the Asian Coallition to form Vortex Inc. The Mercenaries of the Blood used to be the faction I helped lead along with my old clan Death Legion, they just made a comback minus me and I'm pretty sure they're going to be messing the whole faction up, so steer clear of that. Guardians of Mankind are pretty neutral, but boring as hell, they don't do shit at all. Colony and Mining Guild are hated by everyone because they ninja and exploit their way into owning colonies then act like they fought the honourable way for them. The Law Enforcement Division is corrupt to the core, you could always make a guy called Frank Serpico and try cleaning it up, but I doubt it'd go down well :P
FDC has the CTD (Central Training Division), if you pass the basic traning, pretty easy to do, I think they give you free stuff...I have one free TAR7 I can give out, but that's all at the moment...so where was I...oh yeah, expect to get ganked anywhere except Brooklyn Shopping mall, you should be safe there if you aren't Brotherhood of Shadows, Mercs of the Blood or a known ganker, if you ARE, you going to want to stay at Space Station Genesis.
But problem is, the game's entering a 3 day downtime to help test the new engine modifications, so you might have to wait a big :(
Dunno when I'll next have a butchers at this to reply to anything, but you can always catch me on the old ETG neocron IRC, the face of mankind irc (irc.usrv.de #faceofmankind) or the face of mankind forums.
EDIT: Oh yeah, buy clone insurance, the cheapest one so you DONT perma die
Asurmen Spec Op
13-07-05, 13:06
Holy hell its MKV.
The sky is falling
edit: Im gonna make a guy just to talk to MKV :)
Dr Strange
13-07-05, 13:30
*sigh* why is it that in the combined time of when i used to beta test it and when i started again now i have only been killed twice?
some people are just natural victims a swear...
I'll grant alot of the instant deaths people suffered were cause EVERYONE was trying the game out the first day of it's open beta. Which meant a fuck load of cannon fodder for PKer's to have their day with.
But even you gotta admit Jester, it's very uneven in terms of equipped/lvled characters and brand spanking newly rolled characters. At least in NC, 0/2 newbs have their LE and they get to make the choice to die or not to die at the hands of another player. In FOMK, the moment you leave your apartment, with only a handful of credits and absolutely no weapons or armor you can be killed by guys camping the vortex spawn.
Like I said, good potential, piss poor implementation of it.
Dr Strange
13-07-05, 13:35
well I think you're just lucky jester cus as I said, I picked my faction spawned in appy, took the vortex out to my home town and was dead 2 seconds later to a squad of like 5+ people camping the vortex point...I don't see what I could've done differently in that situation?
Since you started in the closed beta I think you got time to learn the ropes of the game before all the asshats flooded in(as they do in pretty much every open beta).
Exactly. People who began in the open beta, when it first started (first 5-7 days) you literally were clueless. There was little to no information on the game other than second hand stuff left over from the closed betas. And that was assuming the information was still accurate (some wasn't) and what was allowed to filter through an NDA.
Put it in a NC perspective;
You hear about a game (NC) download it's open beta which is as said, open to anyone, install and roll a character. Pick your appearance, faction and load up the newbie area (MC5). Since leaving your appartment in FoMK puts you in one generic static spot, it's easy to camp, so in NC once you exit that first MC5 door we'll say you are fair game to anyone else. You automatically don't have an LE, so anyone can kill you. And as you just synch into the outside area of MC5, there are 5 guys all capped in power armor and swirlies shooting you down.
Now imagine that with a limited amount of respawns, and your account locked down after those respawns are used up.
That's NC if it used the FoMK system.
Are there clans in the game or a clan system?
Are there clans in the game or a clan system?
Not really...
When people in FoM talk about clans they usually mean the three "clan" factions, Mercenaries of the Blood, Guardians of Mankind and the Brotherhood of Shadows. Things are alot more about the faction, each faction has its own ranking structure with rules, doctrines and guidlines set down by the players in each faction. Some faction only have groups within them recognised by the faction's High Command (HC), and use the tags (3 letters on the end of you name) to recognise them. FDC have the FIC (Freedom Infantry Corps), FDM (Freedom Defense Marines), ISD (Internal Security Department) and CTD (Central Training Division). While the merc have much more..."CS" esque groups, refered to as "cells", with names like "Elite Squad", "Death Legion" and "Blood Guardians", more traditional groups to recognise each mercenary unit from the other.
I kinda prefer it, imagine the colonies are OPs, instead of an OP being owned by NCAT, IO or DarK (sorry, not very up to date on the new powers :p) it's owned by TG or CA or Crahn, and benefits the faction directly through tax's and other subsidies.
There's nothing to stop you from getting together with your mates and all using the same tag, but there have been alot of people do that and just going around ganking to the extreme (SW, MiB, XoX), but aslong as you don't make a bad name for yourself you should be ok.
There is a new "squad system" coming soon, but DPS are keeping pretty hush hush on it, infact there's ALOT coming soon, an upgraded engine, new character models and animations, a fix to the node camping problems, a new factions, new items etc.
How about the part where people are running in a corridor and run into the way for 4 seconds then suddenly disappear down the other side running normally?
or NPCs suddenly roll0r blading across the floor when u get ur gun out :p
btw, what's BoS?
How about the part where people are running in a corridor and run into the way for 4 seconds then suddenly disappear down the other side running normally?
not experianced that mate, lol
or NPCs suddenly roll0r blading across the floor when u get ur gun out :pyeah, the NPC animations are a bit borked atm[/quote]
btw, what's BoS?
The Brotherhood of Shadows, the mafiaoso style faction, although at the moment they're acting more like colonial warriors.
Oh yeah, a few places to steer clear of:
Pegasi 51 and Pax Prime are the two most profitable colonies to own, and therefore are almost under a constant state of warfare.
DeMorgans Castle penal colony is not a place to go sight-seeing, the DMC LED precinct is notorious for being VERY harsh, at the very least expect a penalty point check and getting escourted out, chances are you'll be shot if you run at all.
If you are GD forces (LED/FDC) don't go into the Berlin backstreets without backup, getting lost in the New York or Tokyo backstreets is not encouraged either.
DO NOT go to the GDS Yukon if you are not GD, some people sell tickets, if you DO go there, chances are you will be obliterated.
If you ARE GD, don't go to Space Station Genesis unless you are in a battleship or have an army with you (or just the marines would do ;))
Asurmen Spec Op
13-07-05, 14:40
not experianced that mate, lol
yeah, the NPC animations are a bit borked atm
The Brotherhood of Shadows, the mafiaoso style faction, although at the moment they're acting more like colonial warriors.
Oh yeah, a few places to steer clear of:
Pegasi 51 and Pax Prime are the two most profitable colonies to own, and therefore are almost under a constant state of warfare.
DeMorgans Castle penal colony is not a place to go sight-seeing, the DMC LED precinct is notorious for being VERY harsh, at the very least expect a penalty point check and getting escourted out, chances are you'll be shot if you run at all.
If you are GD forces (LED/FDC) don't go into the Berlin backstreets without backup, getting lost in the New York or Tokyo backstreets is not encouraged either.
DO NOT go to the GDS Yukon if you are not GD, some people sell tickets, if you DO go there, chances are you will be obliterated.
If you ARE GD, don't go to Space Station Genesis unless you are in a battleship or have an army with you (or just the marines would do ;))
MKV, how do you delete your charecter :)
Well, if you delete it before 24hours after creation, you have to wait until that 24 hours is up to make another.
Quickest way is either make a new account with another e-mail address or perma-kill the first guy then relog. Or you can do it the proper way through the portal, just log-in and there's a button in there somewhere...
Asurmen Spec Op
13-07-05, 14:43
Well, if you delete it before 24hours after creation, you have to wait until that 24 hours is up to make another.
Quickest way is either make a new account with another e-mail address or perma-kill the first guy then relog. Or you can do it the proper way through the portal, just log-in and there's a button in there somewhere...
New email it is :)
but theres a new patch and well..
NC patches make me all aroused and happy
Well I can't really comment on the last 2 or 3 months worth of patches...but DPS patches are a tad more hefty than NC patches, tho, this is early day's still.
The next patch after this downtime, I think is the major one, with the engine upgrades and stuff, in under 2 weeks, but don't hold me to any of that.
Asurmen Spec Op
13-07-05, 14:47
, but don't hold me to any of that.
dont worry Id perfer not to hold you anyway.
I might get into FOMK, its just kinda hard for me to get into any new MMO after NC.
Edit:
Im gonna make a guy, named him Prometheus Asurmen
baah talk of irony, the server went down for mantaince
RogerRamjet
13-07-05, 15:21
If you happen too see Snoop Dogg in game its me or Neptune pimping it up in brooklyn :D
Asurmen Spec Op
13-07-05, 15:25
I had 10seconds before server went down to pick a app, I think I did tokyo
And no one kill me plz :)
Yeah, I hate to break it to you but it's a three day downtime to check shit for the new engine upgrades...
sorry lol
Asurmen Spec Op
13-07-05, 15:41
Yeah, I hate to break it to you but it's a three day downtime to check shit for the new engine upgrades...
sorry lol
I looked :/
bah that's shit...
I was looking forward to play!
give Jester some payback!
Jesterthegreat
13-07-05, 19:59
heh... i currently have nothing really to lose.
got a bunch of ql3 armour in the sale terminals in brooklyn, and whatever was too damaged to put in storage is on me.
oh and god mode to other players doesnt encourage RP. LE's blow :p "oh i'm invunarable... thats realistic! i should just roll a PPU!" :p
hmm... so its down now for 3 days? i'll try it at the weekend then
It's not making a great impression thus far. I started a char in Manhattan, ran around for about 30 minutes without finding a soul... Didn't seem like there was much to do or hunt, whats the point of Manhattan? I hear lots of people here were mainly on the colonies. Right?
darkservent
13-07-05, 22:49
KILLER']
now people were always complaining about nc release dates.. afaik fomk was ment to release about nc2 release at the end of last summer.. now its gonna take another year / 2 years lol.
Actually to correct you there FOMK never ever gave official release dates. There moto is "when its done". I can confirm this from speaking to the developers myself. Much of the community back in the early days also said not to screw it up and to take there time in getting a good product out which I guess there gonna do. Oh and just to add there actually gonna look into stoping ppl ganking players at the nodes when you exit the apartment so thats nothing to worry about.
Now it looks like new horizons are being set with the new engine and looks like a good future for them. Shame I havnt played it in months to darn busy. But lets see how it all ends up I guess.
Jesterthegreat
14-07-05, 08:31
the hang out spot as a "good guy" is brooklyn.
its like walking into via rosso 4 and saying "ffs this is supposed to be a city where is everyone?" it's just not where people hang out.
iirc for a "bad guy" its the shopping place in berlin, though i forget the name.
oh and anyone from beta think back to the end of NC's beta. think back to how many people said the game wasn't ready for release in the state it's in.
i would prefer a game to be beta tested until its suitable for release... than rushed out. most companies don't do this as they have the urge to make money, or have promised a distributer they will be earning money by x date etc.
if they manage it... more power to em.
theres a difference between releasing no game, and having the game in open beta for a llong time. not only can you report bugs and stress test an open beta... but its entirely free.
It still seems to me that Neocron had a lot more depth in any of its beta stages than FoMK right now though... Doesn't it?
[TgR]KILLER
14-07-05, 11:28
It still seems to me that Neocron had a lot more depth in any of its beta stages than FoMK right now though... Doesn't it?
maybe they changed it but back then there wasn't anybody or anything around.. could run for an hour or 3 without seeing anything but walls.. at least in nc you run into an npc around every corner :p
How the hell did my Cousin manage to log in and create his character...
Was down for me at that time!
Jesterthegreat
14-07-05, 19:24
KILLER']maybe they changed it but back then there wasn't anybody or anything around.. could run for an hour or 3 without seeing anything but walls.. at least in nc you run into an npc around every corner :p
you gotta know where to go.
i could run around the wastes, or doy, or some sectors of NC and find no one at all.
but if i went to CA HQ, TH or CRP i know i would have a fair chance of seeing people.
as for NPC's, there are quite a few... but its a big game world. some cities are more populated than others. one of the things i do like about FoMK is that its an entirely player run game world.
every rank of every faction is a player. there are no shops other than the terminals selling what players put on there.
yes the NPC population isnt huge... but thats the idea ;)
ok then, i've finished downloading the client
i'll start FDC, in Brooklyn then?
I've read all possible guides on fomk forum but it doesnt tell me much without a game itself. So for now i'm clueless.
Anything important i should remember while making my first char?
Or if someone could gimme the general idea of what i'm supposed to do after start? Go get some equipment? Or buy insurance first? Or do missions or something?
Jesterthegreat
14-07-05, 20:41
personally first thing i do is go to the vortex things and go to brooklyn.
theres always people there... and i have never seen it not in FDC / LED control.
guns tend to sell for about 500cr in the terminals there... but i find its best to go up to the vortex terminals and see where they are raiding / defending today. soend a few creds buying a ticket and follow them with intention of LOOTING EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON POSSIBLE!
ok... its not "morally correct"... but it works ;)
theres always people there... and i have never seen it not in FDC / LED control.
i saw that more than once :D
I'm FOM addicted. I play it since Beta 3. And it's great.
90% of the game is PvP atm. But DPS do much against it. Example a new turret system like copbots with friend detection and a Most Wanted System with the current destination of player. The most wanted system is like SL system. If you kill a player without joing a mission, you will get PPs. The 20 ppls with the most PPs are on the MW list. But FOM is a PvP game. Few PvM (against Aliens). No item camping. You can buy all items very cheap from the player or produce it.
In the FOM beta are more story events than in the Neocron 1 retail.
You must know fom is in the beta. Many things aren't included in the game. Some weeks we get 3-4 patchs (real patchs with many fixes :) )
I think fom will be a really good game in some month :)
And some screens :)
http://www.8ung.at/corekeeper/fom/FOM_NC1.jpg
http://www.8ung.at/corekeeper/fom/FOM_NC2.jpg
http://www.8ung.at/corekeeper/fom/FOM_NC3.jpg
http://www.8ung.at/corekeeper/fom/FOM_NC4.jpg
Asurmen Spec Op
15-07-05, 01:57
lol your on the shitter
Yay.... looks like a game where you can live your boring ass life as if you were really there...
spending hours eating laxative so you can take a shite, then use political newspapers to wipe your holy high knee with, and walk around shopping malls hoping to be able to snack a piece of gum with you out.
... Oh boy am I happy I stayed the fuck away from that game...
As if 1 boring life wasn“t enough...
which servers belong to where?
game server 1 2 3 are up!
how can i connect to them ones? o_O
Jesterthegreat
15-07-05, 08:22
Yay.... looks like a game where you can live your boring ass life as if you were really there...
spending hours eating laxative so you can take a shite, then use political newspapers to wipe your holy high knee with, and walk around shopping malls hoping to be able to snack a piece of gum with you out.
... Oh boy am I happy I stayed the fuck away from that game...
As if 1 boring life wasn“t enough...
er... its a pretty much all PvP game and you focus on the stupid pic of a guy sitting on the shitter? :p
i knew something looked different... last time i played it it had the old silver RPOS :p
I actually like the look of that old silver interface than the new brown/grey one. New one looks inspired from Rollercoater Tycoon or something... :p
which servers belong to where?
game server 1 2 3 are up!
how can i connect to them ones? o_O
The servers are off for a big patch atm :)
The servers are off for a big patch atm :)
yeah... new graphic engine [Lithtech Jupiter... full DX9 :D... http://www.touchdownentertainment.com/jupiter.htm ]
but the look of the game wont be change in THIS patch... only realtime shadows are implemented yet... and naturally the fps cause the newer engines are more efficent than the old ones when it comes to poly & texture rendering.
but we'll see how it going on on graphics in the next few months
The servers are off for a big patch atm :)
You didn't answer my question!
How do I connect to a cirtain server and what server would I be attempting to connect to atm?
You didn't answer my question!
How do I connect to a cirtain server and what server would I be attempting to connect to atm?
It's only one server. The game server 1+2+3 are level server(cluster). If the server online, all points will be green also 21 sever are online.
I think DPS will open the gates at 20:00 GMT today.
Yeah, those pictures do look a bit boring, but if I'm totally honest I've had pretty much as much fun in this game as I did in NC.
See, it's different, if you want a toe to toe slugfest, with little in the way of interfaction politics or tactics, FoM is probly not your cup of tea. Apart from the odd HL sniping spy, combat in NC pretty much always came down to you dancing around him, maybe with a PPU trying to buff/heal (after skimming through the forums it looks like definatly with a PPU trying to buff/heal, these days). Now, alot of the time combat in FoM ends that way too, with people dancing around eachother, but not always. I've had fights with a group of ten people at the end of a corridoor holding out against about twenty the other side, using crates for cover, taking popshots down the length. Sometimes people set up firing lines to cut down rushing troops, the other people trying to get close enough to use grenades to disperse it.
Once, back when I was a rank 6 merc, we took the Yukon off of the Global Dominion troops (sorta like the rebals boarding and actually TAKING a Star Destroyer). About 50 of us vortexed in, couple at each entry point. It was great, a group fought corridoor to corridoor, and in the end had a group held up at the bridge who where using in the terminals for cover and holding them back down the end of the corridoor. Engineering was pretty much the same, but more vicious, the corridoors only big enough for one man at a time. But the best fights were in the shuttle bays, there was like 20 defenders down the bottom using crates and shuttles for cover, and about 20 attackers on a gantry above, ducking down for cover and poping up and firing down.
There's no setups, and no plethora of weapons and implants to choose from, don't get me wrong, I like that, but I like this too, it makes a change. It's almost 100% the actual skill of the person sitting beind the character, than it is who has the best setup or the most PPUs. Granted there's a tons of different combinations, but an RGI9, a DOA and a 9mm with dum dums, shield implant and resistance amp, plus qualitly level 3 biphetamine does fine for me.
There is also ALOT of story line stuff, wether it's run by a GM or a player created storyline, and never is it just kill the GM or some mass spawning.
Asurmen Spec Op
15-07-05, 12:55
kinda sounds cool MKV, You should drop me a line ingame some time and help me out :)
i'll mail you ingame MKV (if thats ok), i think i'll need some hints for the beggining.
I've downloaded the client and just waiting for the servers to come up. I'll start in FDC i guess, not sure if i want to stay there but we'll see.
Jup the fights a really great. And the best is 50 vs. 50 fights without lags and low FPs! :)
And it's the complet game. We fights every day on our station or on station of our enemys. Stations are like OPs in NC. But the bonus is better. You can mine Minerals there. Some minerals are only available on one station. So the enemy can't build some stuff. And it give the station a very important rule in the politic.
And join MotB that is my faction and it's the best faction ever :D
"3 biphetamine" I thought QL 3 biphetamine are not available...
darkservent
15-07-05, 22:55
Hey Baba Im MOTB too. Dont play too much though as doin missions takes up alot of times so Ive stopped playing for quite a while. I think the fighting ingame is excellent and with the possibilities of having open environments I think itll be even better. Hell I wonder if there could be possibilities of vehicles.
Ah well are servers down for the engine upgrade or minor patch? I might start playing again if i get my job apps sorted out. Oh and them aliens look eveeeel could never find em.
Jahha come back. Motb is weak atm. We need more pro gamer :)
It's "just" a engine update. And Duplex said the server will back at 15:00 CET today. But I think he will need more time. It's a big thing to update the engine to a newer typ.
You like the aliens. I like ET, too :)
The best thing. The alien hutch from a little egg. And then they grow. I have seen aliens they did 2 hp dmg. And the same typ in a big version (after 90+ hours). It needed one hit to kill me.
the downtime is extended:
Dear Community,
Originally we planned to bring the server cluster back up again by today 15:00 CET.
But since this is a major engine upgrade and not just a small maintenance, a lot of things even server-side have changed. At the moment all of us (programmers and level designers) are working around the clock to get everything ready for public testing.
The server, as well as the client, runs fairly stable, especially the client. But there are a few problems that need to be fixed before we can release the patch.
The downtime will be extended until further notice. We will try to get things done as soon as possible. Unfortunately we can't give you an exact date or time, but it won't take longer than a week.
We are honestly sorry for all the inconvenience! But we hope you will agree that this downtime was worth the final result.
FoM Development Team
http://forum.fomportal.com/showpost.php?p=225541&postcount=1
Well Thats just spoiled my fucking day! :lol:
Jesterthegreat
16-07-05, 13:59
balls to FoM...
got into a beta i was hoping to get into for some time (NDA so no names and no details).
it's been a long time since i found a game that can keep me playing from 6pm til 2am.
darkservent
16-07-05, 14:01
I guess it gives me time to free some space up to reinstall it. To busy gettin the new eps of SG1, atlantis and Battlestar.
You are a spammer :)
I hope the server will be back up tomorrow :)
An engine update is a big think. But we can see the "test" servers are running. And that is a good sign that the engine works :)
Look in forum. FOM has a offline Event :D
Many good ingame screens :)
Nobby, no more spam on this thread, please. If people want to check the status of the FOMK servers they can go to the FOMK website.
N
sorry niddy...
I was bored...Couldn't resist some spam :p
MMMMmmmmm
I see all servers up and running!
Can someone post a few new pics of the engine?
BTW here's a little funny pic
Can someone post a few new pics of the engine?
I doubt it'll look different until the new models et al are implemented...
I see all servers up and running!
Can someone post a few new pics of the engine?
Not possible, as the servers are NOT up yet. :p
Still undergoing maintenance and there's also no patch released yet. It's funny because they need to use different terms I think. They state "All servers are currently online" in the login window, and when you try to login, not only is there not a patch yet but also it won't let you log in because the servers are "down for maintenance".
They should state "online but in testing/maintenance" or something instead of just "online" so as not to confuse people and have a bunch post the same topics over and over in their forums.
do you recon it will be ready by morning? :p
do you recon it will be ready by morning? :p
should be, considering the fact that they said it wont take longer than a week.
i'm waiting more than week already and didnt even play the game yet :/
I see all servers up and running!
Can someone post a few new pics of the engine?
BTW here's a little funny pic
I don't care if shes got a gun through her, why can't the female spy skilns be that hot :S
Because...
And stay with me on this!
It's a game :p
To be honest - I preffered the old NC skins... OOH!
@KK
Is there any way of making them up to date, to fit along with the nc2 skins and having them back?
Bah servers up and they havn't bloody put the patch up yet....
I'm gonna watch some japanese anime....
hopefully it'll be up by then!
Dear Community,
The time has come. We are beginning to plan the release of the engine upgrade patch.
Since this patch will be very big, we are going to release it in 3 big patches, or more if necessary. The plan is to limit the file size of each patch at around 50 MB.
The first patch will be released later today, in the evening.
Please note that the servers will stay down until the last patch has been released.
The server will be back up in some hours :)
Wouldn't it be funny/odd if you logged in and it looked worse but used up three times the resources. :lol:
Seriously though, will there be any difference right away?
well i'm Expecting Tr0n type graphics :p
darkservent
22-07-05, 19:52
I wouldnt expect much difference yet. Maybe some extra lightings or shadows but at this stage lithtech has just purely converted the worlds to the new engine thats it. No improvements at all. Thats a job for DPS now.
Clive tombstone
22-07-05, 19:59
Seriously though, what happens if this patch really IS something big? What if the engine is actually pretty kick-ass? Im actually hoping so^^ maybe when the release comes (whenever that happens, go figuer probably 3 years from now :p ) Maybe KK will upgrade, and I mean REALLY upgrade there engine, if not replace it.
Im not saying that Reakktors engine is bad, it just needs a serious tune-up to be competative with the rest of the MMO gaming community.
darkservent
22-07-05, 20:22
Seriously though, what happens if this patch really IS something big? What if the engine is actually pretty kick-ass? Im actually hoping so^^ maybe when the release comes (whenever that happens, go figuer probably 3 years from now :p ) Maybe KK will upgrade, and I mean REALLY upgrade there engine, if not replace it.
Im not saying that Reakktors engine is bad, it just needs a serious tune-up to be competative with the rest of the MMO gaming community.
Definatly, I think KK should look at options on changing it in the future. Just a good look at the possibilities for now wont do any harm.
Seriously though, what happens if this patch really IS something big? What if the engine is actually pretty kick-ass?
the engine is OK... i mean really ok...
what it will bring to the game we can see for ourself in the future... but its definately a step into the right direction
Don't suppose a GF2 MX200 can cut it for the video card requirement can it? With settings turned down and everything can it get a ok average of ~25fps?
Asurmen Spec Op
24-07-05, 15:29
Don't suppose a GF2 MX200 can cut it for the video card requirement can it? With settings turned down and everything can it get a ok average of ~25fps?
with the new engine i HIGHLY doubt it
with the new engine i HIGHLY doubt it
Ah damn it. Being jobless sucks.
Asurmen Spec Op
24-07-05, 16:00
Ah damn it. Being jobless sucks.
the NC community still loves ya
well 3 patches have been downloaded and The server's still "Down" for maintainence....
They did say 3 didn't they?
Asurmen Spec Op
24-07-05, 17:36
well 3 patches have been downloaded and The server's still "Down" for maintainence....
They did say 3 didn't they?
4 nobby
thats why it says 3/4 uploaded in the patch notes
Here from IRC
[17:09:41] <@[EDITED]> ok guys... the patch takes a while cause its very large
[17:11:53] <@[EDITED]> as soon as the patch is available the servers are opened
I think the server will be up today evening.
ah that's nice to hear :)
Thank you! :p
darkservent
24-07-05, 21:23
Well some of the GMs are saying it might be opened 2moro but dont take there word on that. Damn the main chat on IRC is mad,
"<|_maPex_|> hot girl chat until patch is up" 8| 8| :eek: :eek: 8| 8| :eek: :eek: :confused: :confused:
Edit: YEYYYYYYYY FINAL PATCH UP, HOLY FUCK Its huge 212 megs. So much for there 150 meg upgrade.
yeah... there are some neat screenshots:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/boomer_uk/Fom/Fom%20more/Screenshot13.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/boomer_uk/Fom/Fom%20more/Screenshot5.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/boomer_uk/Fom/Fom%20more/Screenshot7.jpg
and they are going to add effects and such things now :D
Asurmen Spec Op
25-07-05, 00:01
and now I DL the patch, the speed is slow it reminds me of everyone DLing the NC2 client
Well in my opinion, the engine wasn't worth the wait because of lag and FPS issues....
But my Apartment feels nice when i walk about it so i'm happy and it feels like a nice quite home...
God i'm fucking sad!
God i'm fucking sad!
yes, and ur siggy is 50 pixels to big... tut tut
Don't start!
DELETE YOUR POST NOW!
WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF NOT ME!
Laggy engine issues asside FoMk is shaping up nicely.
So nice fights to be had, just not on Espen it lags like hell atm.
Asurmen Spec Op
26-07-05, 10:03
I saw nobby
the game lags cause:
the maps are optimized on the old engine which uses a different style of displaying them...
cause they are yet only converted and not optimimized on the new engine it will lag a little bit [hey... i dont have a high end system but i dont notice them that much...]
Q: You were talking about making the levels more open , does this mean that the levels will be adjusted , or are there going to be more maps?
A: well this comes from how the new engine renders the world. The old engine used special walls to block what the player can see and could only handle relatively low poly count, the new engine renders everything within a specified radius of the player this includes a lot of overdraw in our current maps, so we might as well use this over draw and let players see it. It would be safe to assume their will be new maps which use the new engine to better effect, as duplex said their will be a parliament map for starters
btw: heres a small video from the new shadows... hope they will be a little bit darker in the future [lights arent final as far as i know..]
fom_shadows.wmv (http://www.zippyvideos.com/75200248711925.html)
and here another one in cloning facility... they are more visible there:
fom_shadows2.wmv (http://www.zippyvideos.com/72377153712025.html)
KK really need to think about doing a complete engine upgrade to something like .http://www.bigworldtech.com in order to stay competitive.
yeah... there are some neat screenshots:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/boomer_uk/Fom/Fom%20more/Screenshot13.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/boomer_uk/Fom/Fom%20more/Screenshot5.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/boomer_uk/Fom/Fom%20more/Screenshot7.jpg
and they are going to add effects and such things now :D
That looks the same, if thats meant to be a new graphics upgrade or something..
Asurmen Spec Op
28-07-05, 08:56
That looks the same, if thats meant to be a new graphics upgrade or something..
they havent changed any of the gafics.
However, I think that FoMK will loose most of its playability in retail, since the only reason its fun is the FPS with RP. Itll be gone in retail, then itll be a subpar mmofps
darkservent
29-07-05, 01:03
That looks the same, if thats meant to be a new graphics upgrade or something..
Yea it does cause they not done anytin to it yet. That BigworldTech engine thingy looks fuckin neat especially the vehicles. If theres one thing that NC could improve on , is the concept of zones could be eliminated. yes yes there would have to be alot of changes to the way warzones and anarchy zones merge in but a decent engine would give new meaning to NC.
Is it suposed to take 1 clips of the starting pistol to kill someone?
Me and my friend where playing and we seriously both had to use our entire clip to bring one other noob down who was standing still. Then i got chased by lots of guys with riot helmets.
Asurmen Spec Op
29-07-05, 01:10
Me and my friend where playing and we seriously both had to use our entire clip to bring one other noob down who was standing still. Then i got chased by lots of guys with riot helmets.
Stop ganking then and RP
As a member of the LED police force, i had a mission to patrol the Prison colony.
Well today, I've had people shouting at me and my mate "You Rank 1 Noobs fuck off, you're not allowed the, the rules say, you have 10 seconds before I kill you....10...9..8...."
Had a right load of fucking pricks just ganking all the rank 1's at DMC BUT they're all on the LED O_o
This is really fucked up, the LED had rules to never fire upon unarmed people but theis is taking the fucking piss.
Me and my friend Paul, teleported into the back of the colony and slowly made our ways forward, Me one end, he the other of the side of the corridor, loaded with armour and had the best energy rifle, "the techtonic" We fucking owned 5 people including the pricks guarding the front.
anyway, 3 coppers were shooting us and we took the teleporter out :p
Great time, but both KOS everywhere...time to change our faction :p
Stop ganking then and RP
We where rping criminals.
the concept is great but its flawed. the power is in the hands of the players. and we all know players are morons.
No, the high ranking LED are the fucked up Morons.
nuff said.
bloody making me KOS....
This is turning into neocron again....
darkservent
29-07-05, 18:34
This has been one of the biggest problems in a player run game. I could only sit back and see how this will ever get resolved. I guess you cant get rid of pricks in any game. Ive yet to see a MMOG where there arnt any prickly dicks running around.
ok ugh, anyone from fomk players can help me maybe...
how the hell can i get out of the DMC? From what i've heard its just bugged and i should wait for the patch (as i/m keeping stuck at the tube), on the other hand there are some people who could get away from there somehow (cant ask them as it seems chat doesnt work at the prison, i can only see the dialogues)
Jesterthegreat
06-08-05, 12:54
ok ugh, anyone from fomk players can help me maybe...
how the hell can i get out of the DMC? From what i've heard its just bugged and i should wait for the patch (as i/m keeping stuck at the tube), on the other hand there are some people who could get away from there somehow (cant ask them as it seems chat doesnt work at the prison, i can only see the dialogues)
i never got stuck in a tube...
you know that relogging brings you back to your appartment right? (or at least it should)
i never got stuck in a tube...
you know that relogging brings you back to your appartment right? (or at least it should)
you havent played since last patch have you (yesterday that is)?
there are alot of new post-patch bugs now. One of them is that you cannot leave DMC because u got stuck on the curve of the DMC tube. People told me that the only way now is to wait for GM or for new patch, but i've read relation of some guy who said he broke away somehow, hence my question here
and it should be quite obvious that if u relog at DMC u wont be able to escape prison by such an easy trick :p
darkservent
06-08-05, 13:02
If your stuck in the tube when u enter DMC then you should be able to get free by wiggling around with the controls, takes a while but thats how I get free. Otherwise try relogging that'll respawn you back at the start of DMC the vortex node.
If all else fails then just ask for GM help and theyll take you out of jail in which case you loose your shit, but you shouldnt need to for this problem. The tube issue is an old issue been in since the game first began betas.
Gotta say its kinda fun being in jail with lots of people. If you know someone get them to get you a knife and start PKin inside.
Jesterthegreat
06-08-05, 13:03
you havent played since last patch have you (yesterday that is)?
there are alot of new post-patch bugs now. One of them is that you cannot leave DMC because u got stuck on the curve of the DMC tube. People told me that the only way now is to wait for GM or for new patch, but i've read relation of some guy who said he broke away somehow, hence my question here
and it should be quite obvious that if u relog at DMC u wont be able to escape prison by such an easy trick :p
ah DMC is the prison?
hmm... there werent any tubes in the prison last time i was sent there... just a whole load of coridoors (by "tube" i assume you mean the grav-lift type things?)
when i was last sent to prison it was just running through coridoors to the bottom, mining fuck loads of rock, running back up to the teleporter thing and picking a destination.
and no... i havent played since i tried it again in the middle-ish of this thread :p
If your stuck in the tube when u enter DMC then you should be able to get free by wiggling around with the controls, takes a while but thats how I get free. Otherwise try relogging that'll respawn you back at the start of DMC the vortex node.
If all else fails then just ask for GM help and theyll take you out of jail in which case you loose your shit, but you shouldnt need to for this problem. The tube issue is an old issue been in since the game first began betas.
Gotta say its kinda fun being in jail with lots of people. If you know someone get them to get you a knife and start PKin inside.
hmm, heres where i start after reloggin:
http://azrael.w.interia.pl/ss4.jpg
now, the only way out of here is the anti-grav tube, which leads me to the point where i get stucked and nothing i do can change that:
http://azrael.w.interia.pl/ss6.jpg
http://azrael.w.interia.pl/ss7.jpg
supposedly, there is some way to get through the fence and break free, but i dont know how to do this...
http://azrael.w.interia.pl/ss5.jpg
darkservent
06-08-05, 15:55
Sometimes when I got stuck in the tube, and wasnt succesful wiggling out (have you tried pressing key cominations to get out), I'd relog and instead of just dropping in the tube, I jumped into the middle. There seems to be some hidden artifacts in the tubes and jumping in the middle of the tube avoids this. But keep trying youll get through. I guess its just residues of the old engine they will need to clean up.
On the other side of FOMK I was on there forums and damn how many retards in that game as well. Honestly I sometimes just get put off by some real immature punks in games.
finaly got a new hdd, its on download now :P
haha i got a right click bug on fomk
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