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Awky
28-06-05, 21:42
Is it really fair that eventhough we get it easy on when we cap we get totally fucked with the WOC? <---IMO

Do you think WOC on a PE is ok?

This is a discussion I want to have. Now please dont flame us poor little PE's because we level easy. Even if it that is unfair to other classes IMO we get the WOC xp so hard it hurts. I doubt well see a WOC PE ever honestly.

But i agree that there are other opinions...

Awk

ZoVoS
28-06-05, 21:47
yep, having looked at the things a pe can do, they can do everything... at one time they could even resurect the dead lol

they should have a hard time getting woc, however i belive that there should be a slight increase of lvling speed when they cap to sumwhere between that of a specialist class and the pe currently

Jesterthegreat
28-06-05, 21:58
should be proportional.

ZoVoS
28-06-05, 22:43
should be proportional.
i dont think it should, i dont agree it should be as hard as it is now, but it should be a harder class to cap, but because of there non specilisation they should have more options open to them at WOC,

somewhere between how hard it is now, and how hard it would be for other classes

LTA
28-06-05, 22:49
as long as the reward is equal to the amount of effort required

ie if it takes you light years to obtain then it should be damn special and it should be equal to the effort required by other classes....

my droner could cap as fast if not faster than pe and get woc just as fast....

ZoVoS
28-06-05, 22:51
as long as the reward is equal to the amount of effort required

ie if it takes you light years to obtain then it should be damn special and it should be equal to the effort required by other classes....

my droner could cap as fast if not faster than pe and get woc just as fast....
sorry about being pedantic but a lightyear is a measure of distance :p however i dont think they should get sumthing better, just more of a choice of bonuses

LTA
28-06-05, 22:53
sorry about being pedantic but a lightyear is a measure of distance :p however i dont think they should get sumthing better, just more of a choice of bonuseswell its one long feckin distance to pe woc!!!!

Awky
29-06-05, 00:14
nvm uderstood wrong

Awky
29-06-05, 00:15
how can i delete this post?

Asurmen Spec Op
29-06-05, 00:20
PEs should need only the +s to the stats
like +100Mil to first
thats proportional from cap, and from cap is where it really matters

Jesterthegreat
29-06-05, 00:27
as long as the reward is equal to the amount of effort required

ie if it takes you light years to obtain then it should be damn special and it should be equal to the effort required by other classes....

my droner could cap as fast if not faster than pe and get woc just as fast....


numbers are what fuck MMO's over. theres no RP when everyone just cares about the leet numbers.

as long as it takes the same time / effort to woc all the classes it's all good. obv there will be slight expections... hc tanks /w AoE will level quicker than an mc tank for example... but you know what i mean :p

Awky
29-06-05, 00:32
numbers are what fuck MMO's over. theres no RP when everyone just cares about the leet numbers.

as long as it takes the same time / effort to woc all the classes it's all good. obv there will be slight expections... hc tanks /w AoE will level quicker than an mc tank for example... but you know what i mean :p

Yes but thats the point...it doesnt. The rate a PE gets exp points by killing the same mob as a spy is way, way and way lower.

Jesterthegreat
05-07-05, 13:45
Yes but thats the point...it doesnt. The rate a PE gets exp points by killing the same mob as a spy is way, way and way lower.


a PE can cap in a day with ease.

a spy can get 80 dex in a day with ease.

they cap alot easier... and they level early on alot quicker, but towards the end its the same (as a 70-80 base dex spy)

Dribble Joy
05-07-05, 14:34
PE xp gain rate is too high, way too high.

However, they still gain xp much less than slowly than a spy/tank/monk.
Meaning WoC is a herculian task.

The amount of effort/ime needed to cap all classes should be the same, then the relative WoC xp needed for WoC should be set to the same as well.

Morganth
05-07-05, 18:01
The amount of effort/ime needed to cap all classes should be the same, then the relative WoC xp needed for WoC should be set to the same as well.

I agree. Makes a lot more sense. Right now, I have no reason to keep my PE that much overcapped, because I LoM him so much and because getting WoC is bloody hard. I use him to try out stupid setups at the moment, like my 9 drug Slasher setup :p .

Jesterthegreat
05-07-05, 19:07
The amount of effort/ime needed to cap all classes should be the same, then the relative WoC xp needed for WoC should be set to the same as well.


i'd agree there.

Dargeshaad
05-07-05, 22:23
Just killed a PE on mars who was using an X-Bow, so it seems someone got enough spare time to get a PE WOC lvl

Awky
06-07-05, 06:41
Im glad this topic is being discussed. :)

Just hope KK takes a hint, and gets their slow wheels of change moving.

They should really test stuff since over 50% of content they have released lately is either bugged unfinished or unbalance. Most probably a mixture of those above.

Asurmen Spec Op
06-07-05, 07:24
Just killed a PE on mars who was using an X-Bow, so it seems someone got enough spare time to get a PE WOC lvl I dont have a life and I dont have that much spare time

Jesterthegreat
06-07-05, 07:49
They should really test stuff since over 50% of content they have released lately is either bugged unfinished or unbalance. Most probably a mixture of those above.


test server. not many people used it to test in nc1, but some did.

add it before all the useful people quit plz kk

Dribble Joy
06-07-05, 16:35
The TS is currently internal only, though I hope they get a move on with their supposed plans to invite/accept cirtain people to help with it.

Mechanicus
06-07-05, 16:39
make it like nc1 so anyone can use it

Original monk
06-07-05, 16:39
like my 9 drug Slasher setup :p .

you will be shaking, vomiting and coughing blood before you can even pull the trigger lol

YA5
06-07-05, 16:52
When the PE get WOC?
170 Mio xp?
210 Mio xp?


Is the PE able to get WOC in STRengh?

Jesterthegreat
06-07-05, 19:18
make it like nc1 so anyone can use it


only if they dont put the TS loms ingame.

i'd prefer a server with actual testing... not setup devising.

@above PE can get all WOC's except psi iirc (and con... there is no con woc)

ZoVoS
07-07-05, 00:29
tanks should get con woc, special tank amour that acts as a booster drug so u have a constant 1 hp heal per tick and speed up benefits gettin the old adrenalin pumpin, but the mildest of drugflashes permenantly, but magor reduction of drug flash when using drugs since ur constantly on anfetamines :D

Dribble Joy
07-07-05, 01:59
Afaik, PEs can only get dex and str WoC.

And they need the same 260 mill xp.

ZoVoS
07-07-05, 02:59
hey if a pe can get 260mil xp i think he should be alowed all 4 woc's :D

love to see the pe with woc 5 in anything lol