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Hi,
I got this e-mail yesterday. What is wrong with the name Rockbitch? o_O :mad: Who's offended by this name? And by the way: where are the Rules of Conduct?
Greetz,
Hello ***,
Account Name: ***
Character Name: Rockbitch
New Name Choice:
Alternate Name Choice:
Alternate Name Choice #2:
It has recently come to our attention that some names in Neocron 2
heavily violate the Rules of Conduct. This email is to inform you that
your name is one of those that does not abide by the Rules of Conduct.
We are hereby requesting that you submit a new name within the next
24-48 hours or a new name will be chosen at random by office staff. We
apologize for the inconvience. Please note that if you have a
cancelled/expired account we do request that you still submit a name
in case you choose to return to Neocron in the near future. Thank you
for your cooperation. When you choose your new name please also add 2
alternate name choices in case your first choice is already in use.
--
Best regards,
Odin
Jesterthegreat
21-04-05, 13:49
they are at R now?
damn... not long til i get a mail about stealthen whoren :(
:edit: Rules of Conduct (http://www.neocron.com/index.php?name=NeoContent&op=modload&file=index&pageID=23)
:edit2:
2) Generally, you may not use any offensive or sexually explicit language. You may use such language in a roleplaying context. But be aware of the fact that in a possible verbal harassment situation Reakktor Media Support staff will assume a non-roleplaying situation, if in doubt.
Really, don't these guys have anything better to do than checking names in the database???
Dribble Joy
21-04-05, 13:51
It does seem daft that 'bitch' isn't allowed.
Dr Strange
21-04-05, 13:52
It's best to not question it.
KK will not budge on the issue.
They needed to get the game rating to be sold in box form in some places, and this is one way of obtaining it; keeping the "enviroment" roughly the same and crack down on players instead.
So remember Little Timmy, you can't use simple scientific words like Penis or Vagina in your player name but you can sure spend roleplaying time in the Pussy Club!
It's best to not question it.
KK will not budge on the issue.
They needed to get the game rating to be sold in box form in some places, and this is one way of obtaining it; keeping the "enviroment" roughly the same and crack down on players instead.
So remember Little Timmy, you can't use simple scientific words like Penis or Vagina in your player name but you can sure spend roleplaying time in the Pussy Club! :lol: Yeah! And use the Dildo of Maven there :wtf:
Jesterthegreat
21-04-05, 13:54
So remember Little Timmy, you can't use simple scientific words like Penis or Vagina in your player name but you can sure spend roleplaying time in the Pussy Club!
how i wish i had no sig atm...
well "bitch" is an offensive term for a girl.
i know some girls who actually prefer to be referred to as "bitch" but most dont. and I guess thats why its not allowed.
Jesterthegreat
21-04-05, 13:56
well "bitch" is an offensive term for a girl.
i know some girls who actually prefer to be reffered to as "bitch" but most dont. and I guess thats why its not allowed.
jester could be offensive i guess...
a fool by royal apointment...
a fool?
an idiot?
stupid people... plz dont be offended and make me change my name!
:edit: and btw... i find wench to be a much better word than bitch ;)
jester could be offensive i guess...
a fool by royal apointment...
a fool?
an idiot?
stupid people... plz dont be offended and make me change my name!
:edit: and btw... i find wench to be a much better word than bitch ;)
well, maybe KK just knows what it is "RockBitch" actually stands for, and what they do for that matter, and "fistfucking" on a stage might just be a bit too... extreme...
Dribble Joy
21-04-05, 14:00
Wonder if 'bint' is allowed? :p
Other than clearly nasty/intentionally offensive words/names I think there should be little to no restriction on names, with discression taken by the GMs/KK reviewing them and not just enforcing a blanket ban on cirtain words.
"fistfucking" on a stage might just be a bit too... extreme...Don't believe I have an emote for that, do I?
Dr Strange
21-04-05, 14:08
*edit*
nevermind, it'd just be deleted by Nid or Gott anyway
Is 'bitch' still a trigger for an emote in game?
If it is then it seems a little heavy-handed to ban it when it's in a name..
Is 'bitch' still a trigger for an emote in game?
If it is then it seems a little heavy-handed to ban it when it's in a name..Hm, thanks: never looked at it in this way. NERF THE EMOTES!!! :D
Let's face it, golden condom or not, they're a crap band. ;)
N
Dribble Joy
21-04-05, 16:09
None of them are particuarly fit anyway....
I've sent an e-mail to Odin, but didn't receive an answer so far...
As I expect that my resistance against having to change my characters name will be futile :( and as I hate to rename my char, I would like you all to help me with this creative process.
Does anyone have good suggestions for an alternative for the name "RockBitch" that (according to KK) heavily violates the Rules of Conduct? :mad:
It's a female Melee GenTank. Any suggestions will be appreciated...
I've sent an e-mail to Odin, but didn't receive an answer so far...
As I expect that my resistance against having to change my characters name will be futile :( and as I hate to rename my char, I would like you all to help me with this creative process.
Does anyone have good suggestions for an alternative for the name "RockBitch" that (according to KK) heavily violates the Rules of Conduct? :mad:
It's a female Melee GenTank. Any suggestions will be appreciated...
Kksajoke is a fitting name :p
Original monk
21-04-05, 16:50
rockbotch ? dunno :D
i also had a char with "bitch" in the name in one or another account, i yust filled in the form for a fresh name :)
Bugs Gunny
21-04-05, 16:50
Stoned female dog?
Ch1n Th3 M4g
21-04-05, 17:22
Roxy McCoxy..
no wait wrong post :rolleyes:
Grrrr, they want me to change the name of my MAIN char ... doh !
TiTTi, Pussi, Pussi Galore ... wtf, i took them for their cuteness !
My first thought: "That`s it, i`ll cancel" ... grrrr :mad:
RogerRamjet
21-04-05, 17:27
Change your name to Additional Generic Neocron Name.
This is just a fucking joke! Some of the names that I have seen changed are just plain sad... I MEAN COME ON!! Who cares if his name is Conster Penis! Conster Wenis is just lame :lol:
Thanks for all the suggestions guys! I'll let you know which name it eventually will be. Beneath my mail (which was inspired by all you guys) to Odin.
Hello Odin,
Very strange that a name with "bitch" in it isn't allowed in a world where the developpers created things like Pussyclub, Boobs and Guns and dancing nude strippers. Even stranger that the name isn't allowed while there is a special emote for bitch and even one for sex. So KK is allowed to use names that heavily violate the Rules of Conduct, but the players (paying customers) aren't? Let's face it: KK isn't really consistent in this matter.
With kindest regards,
***
yes i got
Comie changed.... why? no one knows, who did it? no one knows
i didnt even get an email either
Hmmm ponders... I find it kinda weird that those phases are considered offensive, especially as people have said that the game content is far more offensive, At release in the UK it was rated 18, which is the same age requirement for hardcore porn across most of europe. It seems slightly contradictory. The only possible way to explain this is to look at what they did for the american release of NC1 where they altered the content of the american version of the game (not sure what the actual rating was in the US at release) As names of chars are no something that KK can directly control and alter for each version of NC2 made they have to be controled under the Rules of conduct and may be deemed inappropriate for the area's where the international release is about to take place (though i don't think america is inclueded in that international release list)
I think a lot of names thats have been changed are one step too far from KK but then again not a lot offends me. I do however feel that this is due to either 10T or Atari more than KK.
I get tired of people complaining about their names being changed and comparing that to the language/offensiveness of the game content like they can even be compared.
The game content is in-character and creates the atmosphere of the game. Character names are totally out of context. Who is the world would name their child "Big Penis"? Do you see NPCs with offensive names?
IMHO, it's no different than a fantasy RPG not allowing names from pop culture or famous people. It does nothing to maintain the atmosphere of the game.
It's not the word itself that's being objected to (obvously, because many of the same words are used in the game content), I think it's the context that it's used as a person's name.
Don't think I've ever seen an NPC name thats offensive though I never really pay that much attention to them though, but there are some NPC scripts out there that have offensive words in them. Though I do rember one NPC, called "Borg Sheilds" how out of context is that :P
Bitch is a female hound. I don't see a problem with a female dog that listens to rock music. Does anyone else?
Don't think I've ever seen an NPC name thats offensive though I never really pay that much attention to them though, but there are some NPC scripts out there that have offensive words in them. Though I do rember one NPC, called "Borg Sheilds" how out of context is that :PThat's probably a coincidence. From what I've seen, I think NPC names must be generated from a list of last/first names. I've seen different NPCs with the same first or last name. When I've killed an NPC, the one that respawns has a different name unless it's one of the epic ones.
edit: zii, you still miss the point. It's not the about the word, it's about the word used as a runner name.
Dribble Joy
21-04-05, 19:04
It's not so much what the character has been named by their parents, but what they want to be called.
'Skinner', 'Spike', 'Diddums' and 'Stabby McFace' are names that one might not name your child, yet are suited to the atmosphere.
This is afterall a cyber punk MMORPG, and I generally feel for that reason (and several others) that you should be able to call yourself what you want.
It's not so much what the character has been named by their parents, but what they want to be called.
'Skinner', 'Spike', 'Diddums' and 'Stabby McFace' are names that one might not name your child, yet are suited to the atmosphere.
This is afterall a cyber punk MMORPG, and I generally feel for that reason (and several others) that you should be able to call yourself what you want.I would agree to some extent, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Now that we know where the line is, why do people use the argument about game content as justification for their inappropriately named characters? It's a moot argument as far as I'm concerned.
I would agree to some extent, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Now that we know where the line is, why do people use the argument about game content as justification for their inappropriately named characters? It's a moot argument as far as I'm concerned.So you think Rockbitch is an inappropriate name?
Nymphette79
21-04-05, 19:18
U shoulda renamed ur char RockButch as the female tanks still look like dudes, altho they dont run like they been shafted up the arse by a donkey as they did in NC1
So you think Rockbitch is an inappropriate name?That's not for me to decide. I don't think it's a bad name and I've disagreed on a lot of the names that have been declared as inappropriate. I just think the game content argument is going to get you nowhere. Just give 'em a new name and move on.
Of all of the arguments you can use for saying your name is not inappropriate, the word being used in an NPC dialog isn't the best choice. Offensive language can be used in a role-playing context, the RoC says that. Try to show your name in that light and maybe you'll get somewhere. If you can't show that, your name should be changed.
@Lachlan: I haven't missed the point.
My point is that the problem lies with the person interpreting the name, not the person who created the name.
I.E I don't find Mega Johnson offensive. It has no other meaning to me other than a literal meaning. There is a very well-known department store in Chile called Mega Johnson. (I cannot find the URL ), and I shop there often. I might think that this person is a loyal patron of this store. [Edited] So, given that the person innocently created their personage after their favourite store, but anotehr random person knew that it could be reference to a sexual toy... who do you side with, or do we head down the road of masscensorship of everything?
Another example: I am a farmer. I live on my farm and have some chickens. In Brit., English the male chicken is called a Cock, but in American English it is called Rooster. Cock is also sland for penis. If I am an English farmer can I call my character Cock Farm?
Another one seeing as we're on the subject. In American English you have the term haystack (a bundle of hay in a particular shape), but in Brit., English the correct term is haycock.
The point is that most things are subjective, along with those who call the shots on the censorship board. So, how far do you go.
Ifuckdeadchildren, but sometimes the censorship gets a bit too carried away. ca va?]
Jesterthegreat
21-04-05, 19:25
2) Generally, you may not use any offensive or sexually explicit language. You may use such language in a roleplaying context.
thinking about it you cant get much more "RP" than the name i choose to be known by... its who my char is...
which means that anything not super offensive should be fine by the RoC.
zii, your point is well-taken, but considering NC is an International community, I wouldn't disagree if KK err'd on the side of caution. Again, though, it's not my call. I don't want to split hairs all day, my only objection is the argument that because there's a place called "The Pussy Club" in-game that I should be able to name my character with that word in it. It's apples and oranges.
I really don't understand KK. They try to create a game with a cyberpunk atmosphere, but they are censorring characternames.
Rockbitch isn't allowed, but I guess a sexist or racist dutch, swedish or swahili name is ok as long as they are not reported.
All characternames are being judged now if there are some possible offensive parts in it. Is KK planning this to do on a continue basis? Are they going to check the database over and over if there haven't been created new characters with so called offensive names?
How can people that play a game like NC with adult content be offended by names of players? How important is checking the database on this?
Instead of itemtracking we got nametracking! :mad:
The RoC does mention something about sexually explicit language, but I don't read a thing about character names there. :confused:
2) Generally, you may not use any offensive or sexually explicit language. You may use such language in a roleplaying context. But be aware of the fact that in a possible verbal harassment situation Reakktor Media Support staff will assume a non-roleplaying situation, if in doubt.
Jesterthegreat
21-04-05, 19:38
I really don't understand KK. They try to create a game with a cyberpunk atmosphere, but they are censorring characternames.
Rockbitch isn't allowed, but I guess a sexist or racist dutch, swedish or swahili name is ok as long as they are not reported.
All characternames are being judged now if there are some possible offensive parts in it. Is KK planning this to do on a continue basis? Are they going to check the database over and over if there haven't been created new characters with so called offensive names?
How can people that play a game like NC with adult content be offended by names of players? How important is checking the database on this?
Instead of itemtracking we got nametracking! :mad:
The RoC does mention something about sexually explicit language, but I don't read a thing about character names there. :confused:
2) Generally, you may not use any offensive or sexually explicit language. You may use such language in a roleplaying context. But be aware of the fact that in a possible verbal harassment situation Reakktor Media Support staff will assume a non-roleplaying situation, if in doubt.
if its RP it shouldnt be an issue... and the nick name you choose for your char is completely RP.
buuuut... what we think means shit all at the end of the day. kk will do what they want regardless.
if its RP it shouldnt be an issue... and the nick name you choose for your char is completely RP.
buuuut... what we think means shit all at the end of the day. kk will do what they want regardless.I am afraid you are right. :(
It's a strange feeling that I have: We are all paying customers of a cyberpunk game. Some of our money is being spend to let someone look in the database to trace offensive names. Another part of our money is being spend to create content for a cyberpunk atmosphere with things like the Pussy-club, Boobs and Guns and the Dildo of Maven. :confused:
paolo escobar
21-04-05, 20:09
I have been effected by this crap too, had my hybrids name changed for me :( cos i didnt get their mail.
Tho very kindly they are willing to change it to something i have suggested.
Tbh this whole name thing is being carried out by uptight ppl for uptight ppl.
And now they're goin thru the alphabet, what happens if for instance i make a new char with a BAD name beggining with a letter they have already done. Will they notice it or will it take an uptight player to tell tales on me?
hehe i cant see my screen, too much red tape in the way :lol:
And now they're goin thru the alphabet, what happens if for instance i make a new char with a BAD name beggining with a letter they have already done. Will they notice it or will it take an uptight player to tell tales on me?
It will be regularily checked.
:rolleyes:
Rockbitch is really not offensive, well for a character name....the actual band is lame and I hope you didnt name it after them.
But in all fairness to others that had forced name changes, "Bitch" is considered profanity in some countries. So I feel it is justified....If they are using a standard to enforce the rules.
Some people need to stop crying and trying to use "cyberpunk" as an excuse. You really need to check up on it's meaning. It definitely does not mean make a PE character named "suckmy PEnis"....to me that is just petty juvenile attention seeking garbage.
Also some players need to stop trying to take things to the extreme. You will never win.
Vae Victis
21-04-05, 20:41
It does seem daft that 'bitch' isn't allowed.
what about "slutsumi" or "BAD ASS" then ? :p
I know "BAD ASS" wasnt allowed in WoW.. he said that names sucked in WoW :p
my melee tank's name was Dixy Normous.
never heard anything about that name from KK...
Only a red guy didn't PK me cuz my name was funny.. lucky me :p
Are clan names and clan rankingnames also being checked?
Rockbitch is really not offensive, well for a character name....the actual band is lame and I hope you didnt name it after them.
FYI: Nope, I certainly didn't name this char after the actual band.
Hmmm i didnt release the game had a rating of U or G.
I share the same feelings of amazement over KK's pure bullshit naming policy when there are npcs, items, and places that are "worse" then the name's currently being changed. Bitch, cock, weed and other normal terms in the English language and it's the slang meanings that are "inapporiate" which again is bullshit. Bitch = Female Dog. Cock = Male Chicken. Weed = thing's you pull up from the ground. Gay = Happy, and it's a person fucking name. Hell I know a guy name Josh Gay. Yet if he would use that would that be inapporiate even though it stands for homosexual? Now if it was the official meaning of the word then I can see you changing it, except in gay's case since its bad business policy to discriminate based on sexual orientation, if this was a clean and family-oriented game.
But Neocron 1 + 2 definatly are not clean, wholesome, family-oriented games. you just can't be stupid enough to go around and change names like that considering what Neocron CONTAINS!
Dr Strange
22-04-05, 00:19
But Neocron 1 + 2 definatly are not clean, wholesome, family-oriented games. you just can't be stupid enough to go around and change names like that considering what Neocron CONTAINS!
While many of us players agree with that, there's nothing that can be done. They've taken another one of their "we won't budge an inch even if the world ends" stances.
The frustrating part is, the fact we can't do anything. Stop playing won't help, I mean look at the low pops on Pandore they still keep that server going when it peaks at like 4%..., Organizing threads and emails doesn't help you'd just be met with the "KK is enforcing the RoC apon player names yadda yadda yadda and nothing can be done".
Let me make it simple so others don't make this same mistake; I agree it is the most hypocritical thing there is and has to be the stupidest thing any MMORPG company on the face of the planet could impose on players inlight of the game's content but arguing that on the forums or email will just cause more trouble, at least it would for those of you who are as strong minded and stubborn as me heh..
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