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Mighty Mouse
20-03-05, 22:23
ok well i got my first custom made computer well ima get it tomorrow hopefully if the video card comes in and i was wondering what everyone thinks about it so here are all the parts.

CPU AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 939 64 bit Retail

MotherBoard Chaintech Nvidia nForce4 ultra socket 939 CPU

Memory Kingston 184 Pin 512 MB DDR PC-3200

HardDrive Western Digital 160GB ( for extra porno =p ) 7200 RPM SATA

Videocard Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB DDR

Case ASPIRE X-Dreamer Black Mid-Tower Case With 350W PSU

ok i know im missing the soundcard and all that crap but im just putting that in from my old cputer since i only wanted to get the important crap in its coming out to 680 bucks oh yeah and assembly and crap and since im getting it made at a internet pub and it came out to alittle more then what they said before i got 9 free hours oh yeah and ill tell u guys what my old computer was

Pentium 4 1400ghz

dont knwo the motherboard only had 128 PC 800 memory my video card was a Nvidia Gforce 4 64 MB and the rest i forgot but yeah its shit so tell me what u guys think about that for the price

Nidhogg
20-03-05, 22:30
Thread moved.

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[D]est
20-03-05, 22:32
9600XT isnt very good.... (you won't get good preformance with this card, better go for a 6600GT which costs less then $200)
Mobo should have SLi.... (you can always add a 2nd gfx card later)
1024MB memory... (they aint that expensive anymore these days)

Mighty Mouse
20-03-05, 22:41
yeah well i was also on a tigh budget 512 is fine for now ill upgrade later when i get he money i and also im 14 and i had to pay for most of this computer my mom only helped out with 150 bucks well really 50 since 100 bucsk is a early birthday present so yeah im broke atm but first thing i wanna buy is WOW when i get money

[D]est
20-03-05, 22:45
but first thing i wanna buy is WOW when i get money

n o o b

Mighty Mouse
20-03-05, 22:55
lol well ima try it i played it already and i sorta liked it but its playing with my bros acct and its just not the same i waa play my own acct

mishkin
21-03-05, 00:38
9600XT isnt very good.... (you won't get good preformance with this card, better go for a 6600GT which costs less then $200)


Uhm, I'm running the EXACT same gfx card that he stated he'd bought, and I'm having no performance-issues whatsoever... Has run every game I've thrown at it quite smoothly, at relatively high settings... As did my 9100 which, btw, was the best piece of hardware I've owned so far. Never failed to run a game, up until the new shaders that it didn't support... Yeah, the 9600 was cheaper than the 6600 at the time I bought it, which hardly holds true anymore, but still... I'd go for ATI over N-fucking-vidia any day of the week :p

ATI > All

(I'd rather comment on the stupidity of say, 90% of the people buying hard-drives... they buy 160-200 gig drives, that have longer seek-times and are more likely to fail than a 40-60 gig single-disk-drive, when used as the boot-drive... Never, ever, have all your shit stored on the same drive that you have your os/other apps installed on, unless you have it all backed up :rolleyes: )

Mighty Mouse
21-03-05, 01:37
yeha i have a 40 gig harddrive from my old comp and im planning to use that to back up all my crap and hide my prono from my bro ( joking ) so yeah in total ill have a 200 gig hard drive but the 40 gi will only be a backup drive

tiikeri
21-03-05, 01:52
double or triple the amount of ram, and change the gfx card..
to 9800, GF6600 or the one i prefer - GF6800U :P
Otherwise.. looks nice.. specially the extra harddrive for porn ^_^

Jesterthegreat
21-03-05, 09:06
do ati's even support SLI?

:edit: i know that mobo doesnt have it anyway...

mishkin
21-03-05, 10:25
Uhm. SLi = Useless for 99,9% of all the worlds gamers... One radeon x850 xt beats a dual 6800GT, so why bother paying 2-3 times as much for them? :rolleyes:

I honestly can't understand why Nvidia would continue developing something that 3dfx already deemed a total, utter waste of money... :wtf:

Jesterthegreat
21-03-05, 14:22
Uhm. SLi = Useless for 99,9% of all the worlds gamers... One radeon x850 xt beats a dual 6800GT, so why bother paying 2-3 times as much for them? :rolleyes:

I honestly can't understand why Nvidia would continue developing something that 3dfx already deemed a total, utter waste of money... :wtf:


i've heard opinions and seen "facts" that point to either as the best.

in the end its just preferance.

ATI fanbois swear by them... Nvidia fanbois swear by them

mishkin
21-03-05, 14:41
Running two identical graphics cards does enhance performance, no doubt about that... The performance boost is not quite 200% though, and the requirements of today's games and the performance of the highest performing cards, to be used in non-SLi-setups, are pretty much on the same level... You'll hardly notice a difference between 60 and 80 fps, or 100 and 120 + many people have monitors that don't go over 100Hz... (which means 100fps)... You'll hardly notice any difference using more than 2-4x FSAA either, which any single high-end gfx-card can already do... both of these apply especially to people with LCD-monitors.

It's not as if SLi is the most affordable option either... :rolleyes:

Jesterthegreat
21-03-05, 14:45
Running two identical graphics cards does enhance performance, no doubt about that... The performance boost is not quite 200% though, and the requirements of today's games and the performance of the highest performing cards, to be used in non-SLi-setups, are pretty much on the same level... You'll hardly notice a difference between 60 and 80 fps, or 100 and 120 + many people have monitors that don't go over 100Hz... (which means 100fps)... You'll hardly notice any difference using more than 2-4x FSAA either, which any single high-end gfx-card can already do... both of these apply especially to people with LCD-monitors.

It's not as if SLi is the most affordable option either... :rolleyes:


meh... my SLI mobo (in the post soon...) only set me back £80?

I'd rather spend more on a mobo anyway as its a fairly important componant... and seats all the other expensive stuff :p

Xian
21-03-05, 15:02
SLI motherboards don't exactly burn a huge hole in your pocket - there are plenty of non-SLI motherboards that cost more.

I suggest you go for the 6600GT over the 9600XT, it will outperform it and with SLI you could always buy another 6600GT later for extra performance, rather than shell out £300 plus for a top of the line card.


One radeon x850 xt beats a dual 6800GT, so why bother paying 2-3 times as much for them?

Some benchmark results that prove this please; I fail to see how a single X850XT could beat two very high end cards with similar specifications.

mishkin
21-03-05, 17:33
Ok, I got a bit carried away there... seems there are alot of different benchmark-results floating around, some less accurate than others...

A dual 6800GT/Ultra beats one single x850XT or any other card, but the difference isn't really noticable until you run your games at REALLY extreme settings. Even then, the performance gained varies between 15 and 30% approximately, and that really isn't good enough for most of us to want to pay up for one extra graphics-card...


meh... my SLI mobo (in the post soon...) only set me back £80?

I'd rather spend more on a mobo anyway as its a fairly important componant... and seats all the other expensive stuff

Eh? Do you actually have any idea at all about what SLi is? I assume that you do know what it is, so... how about telling me where you were going to get an extra graphics card from (same model as you currently have) for £80?

//edit - http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=360 <--- Yes, it's a benchmark, but it's not very... detailed, so I dunno :rolleyes:
Another one, that's in a bit more... user-friendly format :p http://www.hardavenue.com/reviews/asus6600gtsli1.shtml

Mighty Mouse
24-03-05, 08:45
argh noooo damn comps taking for ever its been aboput 16 days 14 or something liek that and first it turned out he ordered the wrong video card i was fine with that he got it this monday and he put it together and it turns out the damn CPU is fried arghhh will i ever get my new comp how long will i be compless arggghhhhh im just spending crazy amounts of money going to the lan place its atleast like 30 bucks a week or so its 10 bucks for 4 hours and argh im going nuts I WANT MY NEW COMP AHHHHHHH it sucks using my bros comp its just nott he same cant leave my NC password saved or i migth forget and leave it on and he'll logg on and mess around and i cant have that happend arghh and what also sucks is that spring break is almost over i bet ima get it monday when spring break ends arghhhhhhhhh SOME ONE HELP ME PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ one thing i cant wait for is for my b-day i hope i egt enough to get WOW and enough to get a gamecard atleast i wanna go creat my own char instead of playing my bros sucky rouge argh i hate the orcs lol ok i needed to get this off my chest =p lol sry bout the no periods to tierd to put them on there so much worj =p

Jesterthegreat
24-03-05, 09:02
Eh? Do you actually have any idea at all about what SLi is? I assume that you do know what it is, so... how about telling me where you were going to get an extra graphics card from (same model as you currently have) for £80?

//edit - http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=360 <--- Yes, it's a benchmark, but it's not very... detailed, so I dunno :rolleyes:
Another one, that's in a bit more... user-friendly format :p http://www.hardavenue.com/reviews/asus6600gtsli1.shtml


you want to get a mobo and gfx for £80?

simply put why not get SLI? well... if your an ATI fanboi i guess it makes sense as ATI cards dont have the SLI capability :p

if you are gettin a GF 6800... get an SLI board. when the next few GF's comeout, get another 6800 (cheaper now) and run them in SLI.

and as for benchmarks / tests: various people could show you one leaning for AMD, or one for intel. one for GF, one for ATI.

:edit: @ above

£30 is alot?

i blew £250 on sunday on my PC.

:edit2: $30 is like £20... more than 10 times less than i spent in 1 purchase