View Full Version : so where are my uber WOC weapons ??
My APU has being lv'ing for day's to try and cap my INT (int 94) atm :D and i just by chance saw that my psi was 251 mil = lv1 WOC.
So after putting so much time and effort and being loyal neocron player i was wondering where is my uber WOC gear.
ATM the only use for overcapping is playing around with your skills and lomming.
At least we should get some word of what is happening and what the rewards will be before all the trouble of getting the woc skills , for all we know it might be a TL 100 milkey ren :lol: :lol: .
PS : why does KK mention things like WOC skills from as far back as NC1 and then not implement it in NC2 = pissed of people.
Rather dont mention this type of thing at all then when it comes out in a patch its like Woooo good job KK for the new game content.
In other words dont promise what you cant deliver on time.
PS : why does KK mention things like WOC skills from as far back as NC1 and then not implement it in NC2 = pissed of people.
Rather dont mention this type of thing at all then when it comes out in a patch its like Woooo good job KK for the new game content.
In other words dont promise what you cant deliver on time.
100% Agreed!
My APU is also ready for his WOC items, i would love to know anything about this feature of the game, it is seriously something i was looking forward to in NC2 and it is the subject most dodged by GM's. The WOC tunnels are now closed so even gaining the level has been prevented which suggests an indefinate hiatus on anything to do with WOC. The problem is with Chars that were capped back in in NC1 like my APU, NC2 hasnt improved the game for him as the only thing to affect him is the lack of a proper Holy Antibuff. A mention of WOC by a gm would be excellent
enigma_b17
04-03-05, 17:05
lack of a proper Holy Antibuff
what, holy antibuff, antishield, antideflector and anti heal aint enough for u lol?
anyway dunno what the problem with woc is at the moment, do u have to be down in the caves or ceres caves to gain woc exp?
Notorious Fish
04-03-05, 17:15
what, holy antibuff, antishield, antideflector and anti heal aint enough for u lol?
anyway dunno what the problem with woc is at the moment, do u have to be down in the caves or ceres caves to gain woc exp?
My tank is rawring and ready for WoC CANT WAIT WOOT WOOT CHOO CHOOOOOOOO
Dribble Joy
04-03-05, 17:19
It's been known that WoC doesn't work since the start of NC2 closed beta.
Anyway, I fucking hope that WoC isn't a bunch of uber weapons.
Notorious Fish
04-03-05, 17:20
It's been known that WoC doesn't work since the start of NC2 closed beta.
Anyway, I fucking hope that WoC isn't a bunch of uber weapons.
What else would it be? 5 more points for allocation in your skill? Fuck that.
enigma_b17
04-03-05, 17:23
i think it gives u extra psi lvls to allow u to use pa4. But i do remember something about weapons aswell
Well this is the last news i heard on that topic
WOC Items
It's intended that WOC items will be more than just re-badged weapons/items with better stats so we're holding off on releasing anything until we can implement something more special.
from the following thread
http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=122022
The most recent update on WOC was:
It's intended that WOC items will be more than just re-badged weapons/items with better stats so we're holding off on releasing anything until we can implement something more special.
Naturally it's on my list of issues to follow up and I'll publish further news as and when I get it. Right now though our priority is the international release.
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The most recent update on WOC was:
Naturally it's on my list of issues to follow up and I'll publish further news as and when I get it. Right now though our priority is the international release.
N
I beat ya to the punch niddy :)
Notorious Fish
04-03-05, 17:30
I beat ya to the punch niddy :)
HOW DARE YOU INUSLT N... its ok N cry on my shoulder.
The most recent update on WOC was:
Naturally it's on my list of issues to follow up and I'll publish further news as and when I get it. Right now though our priority is the international release.
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Hmmm, I try and get this straight .....
You would have many departments in KK, like a devlopment, infrastructure, PR ... so on. Each have a role.
Now for international release I can see how PR is needed, but why are developers and infrastructure needed ?
Guys developing game have already got working code ( Little buggy) but working. Infrastructure, may have to prepare for an onslaught of new clients. Since the hardware is still new, up and running, and I assume stress tested to hold increase qty of clients.
Art depo might have to come up with some funky designs, but I assume they are already in game or not realted to launch.
So what I fail to see is, how KK can use the 1) Asia, 2)German 3) International release as a reason for not moving forward on content.
With the exception of Asia (new set of sever used here) German and International launch are based on same game, same hardware same everything.
Unless of course the guys codding are the guys who are responsable for the infrastructure are the guys doing PR.
What did I miss ?
Now for international release I can see how PR is needed, but why are developers and infrastructure needed ?
The game itself is being updated for the international release. For example, the newbie experience is being changed significantly and we've also got people working on both client and server stability. The international release isn't just a boxed version of what we have now.
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Notorious Fish
04-03-05, 18:01
The game itself is being updated for the international release. For example, the newbie experience is being changed significantly and we've also got people working on both client and server stability. The international release isn't just a boxed version of what we have now.
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OMG SEX YOU SEXY N
[TgR]KILLER
04-03-05, 18:02
and don't forget their trying to get item tracking working for int release :)
The game itself is being updated for the international release. For example, the newbie experience is being changed significantly and we've also got people working on both client and server stability. The international release isn't just a boxed version of what we have now.
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This comes down to expectation managment, and for now I expect
A newbie experience is being changed
and
Both client and server stability
Top one is easy to quantify, and hope it works well,
Bottom, will be more difficult to quantify....
I wish you luck on both these as i know hey would be a benifit to the game, I just not getting hopes to high on wither being completed or achieving their goals in time ... thats just me though
enigma_b17
04-03-05, 18:06
nid, do those of us who already ave accounts get a boxed version free :o
:P
The game itself is being updated for the international release. For example, the newbie experience is being changed significantly and we've also got people working on both client and server stability. The international release isn't just a boxed version of what we have now.
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Does this mean we get some some FPS/mem leak fixes?
Notorious Fish
04-03-05, 18:14
Does this mean we get some some FPS/mem leak fixes?
That would fall under server stability Im sure.
I think it is clear to see from what Nidhogg said, is that all KK are totally running their asses off getting the boxed versio n polished and ready to go on time so it isnt dragged out like so many other games. We forget that this game requires all the attention of the staff 24hrs a day to cope with a full communities worth of problems, but also they have to deal with all the problems of releaseing an international game at the same time.
I think KK is trying to get the message accross that once they have released the boxed version of the game then there is absolutely no need to focus on anything other than the running of the game. I would expect much more attention to detail once the game is in shops and not needing constant attention in the office. It would be idiotic to think that the GM's are idley sitting by ignoring he minor bug fixes, true some fixes are major to us such as those waiting for WOC since nc1. It seems the next couple of months are gonna see a lot of differneces coming into play.
I think the #1 thing we can do after the Int release is not put a bad face on KK and say "All this was planed out for NC2 and look we have been playing 6 months and its still not here!" becuase it will put the noobs off the game and that just means less people for us to play with.
Notorious Fish
04-03-05, 18:21
I think the #1 thing we can do after the Int release is not put a bad face on KK and say "All this was planed out for NC2 and look we have been playing 6 months and its still not here!" becuase it will put the noobs off the game and that just means less people for us to play with.
I think everyone just needs to play the game.
I have played TONZ of MMORPGs and everyone had something I could not stand for, or something I hated. Doesnt mean it was a bad game.
I think the #1 thing we can do after the Int release is not put a bad face on KK and say "All this was planed out for NC2 and look we have been playing 6 months and its still not here!" becuase it will put the noobs off the game and that just means less people for us to play with.
I wish I could say, look we had 10 items on the plan file, 9 achieved in a resonable time period... good going ... I will be the first to stand up and say take my money when thats the case .....
What we really need to do is, if when the int release goes ahead, we dont have people winging and crying all the time about KK's failings, if we go on about how dissapointing and how stale the game has gotten with everyone leaving for WOW. I can speak for my clan by saying that Dark went through a very bad time when WOW was released, with sometimes only 1 person on comms. But it is coming back, we have plenty of people on comms now and many many new faces. THe game willl be ~Uber once again, so lets not disuade the nibs
Rather dont mention this type of thing at all then when it comes out in a patch its like Woooo good job KK for the new game content.
I think that's exactly what they're planning with this:
the newbie experience is being changed significantly and we've also got people working on both client and server stability. The international release isn't just a boxed version of what we have now.
Maybe some things are best kept a surprise. Some people prefer to be given a timetable of what is coming, when, where and how. You have to admit though, that when KK do come up with something totally out of the blue, everyone loves it.
Does this mean i should go buy the box version after all? Dammit, im curious now!
Dribble Joy
04-03-05, 19:00
What else would it be? 5 more points for allocation in your skill? Fuck that.
Because if it were it would simply be yet another, even steeper part of the grind to PvP viability, and it would make it pretty boring if everyone were using the same weapon (more so than now).
What I would want is skills and abilities, rather than just skill bonuses and guns.
Notorious Fish
04-03-05, 19:09
Because if it were it would simply be yet another, even steeper part of the grind to PvP viability, and it would make it pretty boring if everyone were using the same weapon (more so than now).
What I would want is skills and abilities, rather than just skill bonuses and guns.
Meh I partually agree. I think you should be able to customize items With like slots. Inc Dmg Inc Fire Res ... so on so forth. maybe like to slots per woc level. so 10 total slots. and only the woc mobs drop the mods.
opps I mean inc dmg over the cap same with fire and stuff you can increase it over the capp slighty
not just weapons also , armor imps everything even ammo
The WOC tunnels are now closed so even gaining the level has been prevented which suggests an indefinate hiatus on anything to do with WOC. The problem is with Chars that were capped back in in NC1 like my APU, NC2 hasnt improved the game for him as the only thing to affect him is the lack of a proper Holy Antibuff. A mention of WOC by a gm would be excellent
You can still level the XP to reach the WOC levels elsewhere, you just can't get the WOC disk to give to the savant in order to get the level (don't forget you gotta be 'Master' of your current faction and have 2 million credits aswell)
Freaky Fryd
04-03-05, 20:04
Actually, I believe that only one type of WoC area is closed...and there's 2.
Due to a problem with the type that looks like a lab, with the 127/127 versions
of the Cyclops', that one was closed...but, I was under the impression that
the one that looks like a Mine and had 127/127 Y Reps is still open...
Has anyone checked?
enigma_b17
04-03-05, 20:09
the one with the 127/127 yrep look alikes is open yea
the one with the 127/127 yrep look alikes is open yea
Yup, the reason the labs were shut is because of exploit reasons ;) nothing else...
It's been known that WoC doesn't work since the start of NC2 closed beta.
Anyway, I fucking hope that WoC isn't a bunch of uber weapons.
Lol agreed rares are uber enough! And also instead of fixing WOC maybe they should get Terra working? ATM it seems like NC is going to crash and burn.
Yes, only one of the WoC areas is closed and that will be re-opened after it's been altered. Also, yes, memory usage and optimisation is definitely being worked on.
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Crazy Russian
04-03-05, 21:47
nidhogg, how many people are there that fix bugs on the NC team?
nidhogg, how many people are there that fix bugs on the NC team?
The NC team doesn't have any bugs. :p
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/edit - I'm not sure actually. Also it depends on the area (engine, quests, balancing etc.) I know the team is bigger than most people would believe...
The NC team doesn't have any bugs. :p
N
/edit - I'm not sure actually. Also it depends on the area (engine, quests, balancing etc.) I know the team is bigger than most people would believe...
I dont agree :p Dunno why, must say something! Cant log on PE cuz hes spinning as soon he gets logged in :p
My APU has being lv'ing for day's to try and cap my INT (int 94) atm :D and i just by chance saw that my psi was 251 mil = lv1 WOC.
So after putting so much time and effort and being loyal neocron player i was wondering where is my uber WOC gear.
ATM the only use for overcapping is playing around with your skills and lomming.
At least we should get some word of what is happening and what the rewards will be before all the trouble of getting the woc skills , for all we know it might be a TL 100 milkey ren :lol: :lol: .
PS : why does KK mention things like WOC skills from as far back as NC1 and then not implement it in NC2 = pissed of people.
Rather dont mention this type of thing at all then when it comes out in a patch its like Woooo good job KK for the new game content.
In other words dont promise what you cant deliver on time. *nods*
It's been known that WoC doesn't work since the start of NC2 closed beta.
Anyway, I fucking hope that WoC isn't a bunch of uber weapons.
Why not ?
If I'm going to spends months in the cave to gain WOC it better be something uber like that. other wise I'm not going to bother and KK can just forget it I'm not interested ...
Also it depends on the area (engine, quests, balancing etc.)
Quests? So there might be more than just the epics actually availble to us sometime soon? Something to do? Cool. (Not counting the closed Jugger and broken Herbalis here). Also, nib quests would be cool - thats why WoW is so popular.
Dribble Joy
05-03-05, 04:24
Why not ?
If I'm going to spends months in the cave to gain WOC it better be something uber like that. other wise I'm not going to bother and KK can just forget it I'm not interested ...
This game never has been primarily about the level grind, that's part of it's selling point.
Though I am in favour of reward for sacrifice (eg specialisation), I don't support it when it comes to PvP viability.
If you make WoC a must for PvP (such as making WoC weapons more powerful) then WoC is simply another barrier to the point where you can compete.
As such I would prefer that WoC is not a must have, something cool and worth doing, but not something that is essential to the game play.
trigger hurt
05-03-05, 05:21
...I think KK is trying to get the message accross that once they have released the boxed version of the game then there is absolutely no need to focus on anything other than the running of the game. I would expect much more attention to detail once the game is in shops and not needing constant attention in the office. It would be idiotic to think that the GM's are idley sitting by ignoring he minor bug fixes, true some fixes are major to us such as those waiting for WOC since nc1. It seems the next couple of months are gonna see a lot of differneces coming into play.
Were you even around for NC1? The game was running, off the ground even. The only thing to do was patch in content and hold events and fix some minor bugs here and there.
What happened, you ask?
I can remember only 3 events that were not just massive spawn parties. One was a beach party, one was the release of NeXT combat vehicles, and the other was a DoY attack on Plaza 1. All of these came around about the end of NC1. What took them so long to get to it?
Like I said before. I hope I'm wrong and KK are going to turn over a new leaf and start participating in their own game instead of watching the players do whatever they want. Sooner or later, the people like me, who stuck by this game since Beta 4 of NC1...we bitched, we whined...are going to leave. No matter what the server count tells you, populations are decreasing and it has everything to do with this game being boring and poorly run. The GM's can't do everything, most of them don't even have permission to spawn things. One of them has come up with some ideas for new mobs and some weapon reworking...none of which has seen the light of day, save one of the mobs.
Why not ?
If I'm going to spends months in the cave to gain WOC it better be something uber like that. other wise I'm not going to bother and KK can just forget it I'm not interested ...
As DJ said, WoC shouldn't be another 1 billion xp needed to PvP at a certain level. I remember KK said that WoC won't be anything like that, that it will be just something "cool" on the side.
I'd like to see tanks, monks and spys be able to wear pa4 without a huge amount of gimpage and drugage (if any) with WoC, I'd even like to see the catharsis spell, being cast at 52/min, with a 50 mana cost with WoC, so that might start being used :) Stuff like that.
*nods*
Why not ?
If I'm going to spends months in the cave to gain WOC it better be something uber like that. other wise I'm not going to bother and KK can just forget it I'm not interested ... Actually it could be that kind of prize. Something like a somewhat overpowered gun a lot different than what we have been seen so far, which maybe will get nerfed over time, as more people gains WoC levels. Another approach would be a list of items for the runner to choose. Items will be such to compensate for the time needed to achieve the goal. Whatever it is, it must be really unique items, that will draw more into the WoC grinding
As such I would prefer that WoC is not a must have, something cool and worth doing, but not something that is essential to the game play. If this was the case, then why would someone really bother doing all this effort? How can "something" be cool and "not essential" at the same time?
Blessed heal for PE's plz
J/k :D
/Edit
I'd like to see a PE able to rezz people now that would be cool as a WOC item
Blessed heal for PE's plz
J/k :D
/Edit
I'd like to see a PE able to rezz people now that would be cool as a WOC item
Then why not give spys lvl 4armor , tanks holyheal, apus better resists and ppus Godmode? jk that would happend if pes would be able to rezz
Then why not give spys lvl 4armor , tanks holyheal, apus better resists and ppus Godmode? jk that would happend if pes would be able to rezz
They might become usefull and I would not consider it overpowered or unbalanced, PE's would never be able to rezz like a PPU. In an op war if a PE started rezzing the enemy would have killed him long befor he could complete the rezz :)
Then why not give spys lvl 4armor , tanks holyheal, apus better resists and ppus Godmode? jk that would happend if pes would be able to rezz
http://neocron.jafc.de/showpost.php?p=1537073&postcount=1 :p
Actully I think it is still possible :) with drugs PSI denfence chips and PSI booster 3
/Edit ok its not =/ neoskiller use to have wrong requirements on all PSI defence chips
http://neocron.jafc.de/showpost.php?p=1537073&postcount=1 :p
Character Overview for Rezz PE
Character Class: Private Eye
PSI
Max Skill: 35
Current: 52 +17
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 111 +30
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 -30
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 60 +8
Skill: PSI Power = 10 +10
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 +0
-------Character Inventory-------
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 1
Influences: PSU: 5 PPU: 5 PSI: 1 APU: -5
Slot: Brain Chip - Experimental PSI Controller 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPW: 10 PSI: 3 STR: -3 FOR: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPU: 10 PSI: 2 APU: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 3
Influences: PSU: 15 PPU: 15 PSI: 3 APU: -20
Slot: Combat - PSI Combat Booster 2
Influences: APU: 10 MST: 8 PSU: 6
Slot: Drug - Havenin
Influences: PSI: 3
Slot: Drug - Nightspider
Influences: PSI: 5 PSU: 20 IMP: 16 FOR: -15
---------------------------------
Just need enough PSI Energy to cast it then...
Character Overview for Rezz PE
Character Class: Private Eye
PSI
Max Skill: 35
Current: 52 +17
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 111 +30
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 -30
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 60 +8
Skill: PSI Power = 10 +10
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 +0
-------Character Inventory-------
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 1
Influences: PSU: 5 PPU: 5 PSI: 1 APU: -5
Slot: Brain Chip - Experimental PSI Controller 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPW: 10 PSI: 3 STR: -3 FOR: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPU: 10 PSI: 2 APU: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 3
Influences: PSU: 15 PPU: 15 PSI: 3 APU: -20
Slot: Combat - PSI Combat Booster 2
Influences: APU: 10 MST: 8 PSU: 6
Slot: Drug - Havenin
Influences: PSI: 3
Slot: Drug - Nightspider
Influences: PSI: 5 PSU: 20 IMP: 16 FOR: -15
---------------------------------
Just need enough PSI Energy to cast it then...
Are you using the old neoskiller or is this just an old setup from the past ?
Defensiv PSI Processor 3 requires 73 PSI a PE would never get that even with every drug
Are you using the old neoskiller or is this just an old setup from the past ?
Defensiv PSI Processor 3 requires 73 PSI a PE would never get that even with every drug
must be an old neoskiller then, just cleaned all my harddrives so dont know where ive put the most recent downloads :p
must be an old neoskiller then, just cleaned all my harddrives so dont know where ive put the most recent downloads :p Humm I just checked in game and it requires 67 PSI so neoskiller is wrong :)
/Edit so that means with insane drugging including rare drugs and PSI combat buff 3, a PE is able to rezz people kool ^^
yep can get :
Character Overview for New Character
Character Class: Private Eye
Sex: Male
Server: None
Ranking: 8/12
-----------PSI-----------
Max Skill: 35
Current: 54 19
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 111 15
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 0
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 25 16
Skill: PSI Power = 15 15
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 0
-------Character Inventory-------
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPU: 10 PSI: 2 APU: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 1
Influences: PSU: 5 PPU: 5 PSI: 1 APU: -5
Slot: Brain Chip - Experimental PSI Controller 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPW: 10 PSI: 3 STR: -3 FOR: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Experimental PSI Controller 1
Influences: PSU: 5 PPW: 5 PSI: 1 STR: -1 FOR: -5
Slot: Combat - PSI Combat Booster 3
Influences: APU: 20 MST: 16 PSU: 12
Slot: Drug - Dolinskin
Influences: PSI: 4 PSU: 12 HCK: 12 WEP: -10
Slot: Drug - Havenin
Influences: PSI: 3
Slot: Drug - Nightspider
Influences: PSI: 5 PSU: 20 IMP: 16 FOR: -15
---------------------------------
or
Character Overview for New Character
Character Class: Private Eye
Sex: Male
Server: None
Ranking: 8/12
-----------PSI-----------
Max Skill: 35
Current: 54 19
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 100 15
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 0
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 57 16
Skill: PSI Power = 15 15
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 0
-------Character Inventory-------
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPU: 10 PSI: 2 APU: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 1
Influences: PSU: 5 PPU: 5 PSI: 1 APU: -5
Slot: Brain Chip - Experimental PSI Controller 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPW: 10 PSI: 3 STR: -3 FOR: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Experimental PSI Controller 1
Influences: PSU: 5 PPW: 5 PSI: 1 STR: -1 FOR: -5
Slot: Combat - PSI Combat Booster 3
Influences: APU: 20 MST: 16 PSU: 12
Slot: Drug - Dolinskin
Influences: PSI: 4 PSU: 12 HCK: 12 WEP: -10
Slot: Drug - Havenin
Influences: PSI: 3
Slot: Drug - Nightspider
Influences: PSI: 5 PSU: 20 IMP: 16 FOR: -15
---------------------------------
so either you will need :
32 mst
or
11 ppu
so it cant be done :(
Humm I just checked in game and it requires 67 PSI so neoskiller is wrong :)
/Edit so that means with insane drugging including rare drugs and PSI combat buff 3, a PE is able to rezz people kool ^^
Character Overview for New Character
Character Class: Private Eye
Sex: Male
Server: None
Ranking: 7/20
-----------PSI-----------
Max Skill: 35
Current: 68 33
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 111 15
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 0
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 25 16
Skill: PSI Power = 10 10
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 0
-------Character Inventory-------
Slot: Brain Chip - PSI Memory Chip 2
Influences: PSI: 3
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 1
Influences: PSU: 5 PPU: 5 PSI: 1 APU: -5
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPU: 10 PSI: 2 APU: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Experimental PSI Controller 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPW: 10 PSI: 3 STR: -3 FOR: -15
Slot: Combat - PSI Combat Booster 3
Influences: APU: 20 MST: 16 PSU: 12
Slot: Drug - Dolinskin
Influences: PSI: 4 PSU: 12 HCK: 12 WEP: -10
Slot: Drug - Havenin
Influences: PSI: 3
Slot: Drug - Nightspider
Influences: PSI: 5 PSU: 20 IMP: 16 FOR: -15
Slot: Drug - Kri'nakh Mushroom
Influences: INT: 10 PSI: 5
Slot: Drug - Crescent Tabs
Influences: INT: 13 PSI: 7
---------------------------------
^^ still not possible..
cuz you cant get any higher than 68 psi with all psi drugs (including crescent tabs).
to put defensive psi processor 3 in, you would have to take out a chip and then you would be down to below 67 psi (unless defensive psi processor 1 only gives 1 psi, if it does that, then you should be able to move around a bit with imps back and forth and in the end be able to have it all in.. then if you die or gr, you would have to start all over with putting imps in and out.
so its a very big IF
and even then we havent even discussed if there is even enough psi energy to cast it.
Character Overview for New Character
Character Class: Private Eye
Sex: Male
Server: None
Ranking: 9/71
None
-----------Intelligence-----------
Max Skill: 60
Current: 86 26
Skill: Hacking = 12 12
Skill: Barter = 0 0
Skill: PSI Use = 84 84
Skill: Weapon Lore = 0 -10
Skill: Construction = 0 0
Skill: Research = 0 0
Skill: Implant = 16 16
Skill: Willpower = 0 0
-----------Strength-----------
Max Skill: 60
Current: 57 -3
Skill: Melee Combat = 0 0
Skill: Heavy Combat = 0 0
Skill: Transport = 0 0
Skill: Resist Force = 0 -30
-----------Constitution-----------
Max Skill: 65
Current: 65 0
Skill: Athletics = 0 0
Skill: Body Health = 0 0
Skill: Endurance = 0 0
Skill: Resist Fire = 0 0
Skill: Resist Energy = 0 0
Skill: Resist X-Ray = 0 0
Skill: Resist Poison = 0 0
-----------Dexterity-----------
Max Skill: 80
Current: 80 0
Skill: Pistol Combat = 0 0
Skill: Rifle Combat = 0 0
Skill: HighTech Combat = 0 0
Skill: Vehicle Use = 0 0
Skill: Agility = 0 0
Skill: Repair = 0 0
Skill: Recycle = 0 0
Skill: Remote Control = 0 0
-----------PSI-----------
Max Skill: 35
Current: 71 36
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 111 30
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 -20
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 57 16
Skill: PSI Power = 23 10
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 0
-------Character Inventory-------
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPU: 10 PSI: 2 APU: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 1
Influences: PSU: 5 PPU: 5 PSI: 1 APU: -5
Slot: Brain Chip - Experimental PSI Controller 2
Influences: PSU: 10 PPW: 10 PSI: 3 STR: -3 FOR: -15
Slot: Brain Chip - Defensiv PSI Processor 3
Influences: PSU: 15 PPU: 15 PSI: 3 APU: -20
Slot: Combat - PSI Combat Booster 3
Influences: APU: 20 MST: 16 PSU: 12
Slot: Drug - Havenin
Influences: PSI: 3
Slot: Drug - Nightspider
Influences: PSI: 5 PSU: 20 IMP: 16 FOR: -15
Slot: Drug - Crescent Tabs
Influences: INT: 13 PSI: 7
Slot: Drug - Dolinskin
Influences: PSI: 4 PSU: 12 HCK: 12 WEP: -10
Slot: Drug - Kri'nakh Mushroom
Influences: INT: 10 PSI: 5
Slot: Drug - Destrosol
Influences: INT: 3 PSI: 3
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As I said insane drugging ^^ 112 in the psi pool it might just be possible
/Edit oh I forgot PSI use in intel which would make you 170 PSI pool
still this character would be as much use as a hairdryer that works under water ^^
you still have the problem...
Who in their right minds will use Crescent tabs, that you cant ever get again, to be able to resurrect 1-2 times in total on a PE ?
Destrosol adding to psi must be an error...
you still have the problem...
Who in their right minds will use Crescent tabs, that you cant ever get again, to be able to resurrect 1-2 times in total on a PE ?
Destrosol adding to psi must be an error...
Well you only need 67 PSI to use psi defensive chip 3 I'm pretty damn sure this setup would work 100%. But who in there right minds would lom there PE to test it out, total gimpage but would look cool seeing it :)
ive tried :p
you cant a PE to use Rezz anymore, you get to a point where you need somethign like 3 psi, and theres just no way to get that psi anymore....
used to be able to do it with Cresent Tabs :(
ive tried :p
you cant a PE to use Rezz anymore, you get to a point where you need somethign like 3 psi, and theres just no way to get that psi anymore....
used to be able to do it with Cresent Tabs :( Look at the setup you CAN do it neoskiller is wrong about the PSI defence chip 3 you only need 67 PSI, granted you would need a PSI combat buff 3 off a PPU.
/Edit I'm pretty damn sure 170 PSI mana pool is enough to cast it, but you would need all intel points into PSI use. No one would lomm there PE's intel this way to test it
Look at the setup you CAN do it neoskiller is wrong about the PSI defence chip 3 you only need 67 PSI, granted you would need a PSI combat buff 3 off a PPU.
/Edit I'm pretty damn sure 170 PSI mana pool is enough to cast it, but you would need all intel points into PSI use. No one would lomm there PE's intel this way to test it
but i cant get the setup to work without crescent tabs, and theyre not something you just find lying around the garbage cans each day.
but i cant get the setup to work without crescent tabs, and theyre not something you just find lying around the garbage cans each day.
Ok I see now without the crescent tabs you only get 64 PSI thats not enough to implant psi defencesive 3 however this setup. With crescent tabs is possible and would work 100% unless they removed crescent tabs, if they did not then it would work and a PE setup this way could indeed rezz someone :)
Its still possible ^^
Look at the setup you CAN do it neoskiller is wrong about the PSI defence chip 3 you only need 67 PSI, granted you would need a PSI combat buff 3 off a PPU.
/Edit I'm pretty damn sure 170 PSI mana pool is enough to cast it, but you would need all intel points into PSI use. No one would lomm there PE's intel this way to test it
Normal rez = 105 mana, Holy rez = 205, so yeah, you'll have enough mana, And naimex is right, havenin is the only +3 psi drug.
Freaky Fryd
06-03-05, 10:53
Seeing the only Crescent Tabs that exist (as far as I know) are ones that are carried over from NC1, and any drugs/boosters/medikits/etc that were carried over can't be consumed, then anything that is reliant on eating Crescent Tabs is currently impossible.
Someone I know brought over a 2 Redflash in his slots and both couldn't be eaten. I have some Psi Booster 3s that can't be eaten either.
From what I understand, all drugs and even medikits that were carried over are now unusable. Of course, I'm not brave enough to try eating any of the 3 Tigers Blood or 3 Crescent Tabs that I brought over...
:D
Normal rez = 105 mana, Holy rez = 205, so yeah, you'll have enough mana, And naimex is right, havenin is the only +3 psi drug.
^^ it was the Destrosol drug he had on the pe that gave +3 int and +3 psi.
isnt that supposed to only give +3 int ?
^^ it was the Destrosol drug he had on the pe that gave +3 int and +3 psi.
isnt that supposed to only give +3 int ?
Yeah, havenin, is the only +3 psi drug :p :rolleyes:
Yeah, havenin, is the only +3 psi drug :p :rolleyes:
ahh gotcha now... lol
missed that ONLY when i thought..
just thought you were thinking about the wrong drug lol..
darkservent
07-03-05, 21:58
The question on everyones mind is will we get the boxed version posted to us when the international release is out.
The way Nid said that the team are working on server stability, balanching and wot not it seems like its nearing the end of a LOOOOONNNG BETA.
Notorious Fish
08-03-05, 17:59
The question on everyones mind is will we get the boxed version posted to us when the international release is out.
The way Nid said that the team are working on server stability, balanching and wot not it seems like its nearing the end of a LOOOOONNNG BETA.
If you mean get the boxed set for free, my answer would be "Wheres the money in that?"
If you mean we get the same patches and everything, I would say "STIMPY YOU EEDIOT!"... or "Of course silly"
darkservent
08-03-05, 19:28
If you mean get the boxed set for free, my answer would be "Wheres the money in that?"
If you mean we get the same patches and everything, I would say "STIMPY YOU EEDIOT!"... or "Of course silly"
Gosh, I think we should get a box as we did pay the retail price on NC2 didnt we (well the discount price)? Its not FREE as you would call it. I did/do expect a box set at the least if I'm to carry on playing as I payed just wot anyone else would pay if they bought it from a game store. And for those ppl who payed the full price for NC2 without upgrades I'm sure they too expect a hardcopy of the game.
Might sound stupid to some ppl but you/anyone else can settle for your downloaded client and your PDF format new revised manual, I for sure am not.
Notorious Fish
08-03-05, 22:21
Gosh, I think we should get a box as we did pay the retail price on NC2 didnt we (well the discount price)? Its not FREE as you would call it. I did/do expect a box set at the least if I'm to carry on playing as I payed just wot anyone else would pay if they bought it from a game store. And for those ppl who payed the full price for NC2 without upgrades I'm sure they too expect a hardcopy of the game.
Might sound stupid to some ppl but you/anyone else can settle for your downloaded client and your PDF format new revised manual, I for sure am not.
You pay for the liscence not the software. hrhr
I would think they would make us pay but I could be wrong. One of the many problems with games that dont start Int.
PDF manual WHAT WHERE CAN I GET THAT???? :cool:
Gosh, I think we should get a box as we did pay the retail price on NC2 didnt we (well the discount price)? Its not FREE as you would call it. I did/do expect a box set at the least if I'm to carry on playing as I payed just wot anyone else would pay if they bought it from a game store. And for those ppl who payed the full price for NC2 without upgrades I'm sure they too expect a hardcopy of the game.
Might sound stupid to some ppl but you/anyone else can settle for your downloaded client and your PDF format new revised manual, I for sure am not.
No we payed for the download of the game :) a boxed version allways costs more, packaging etc.
so shhhh
Social-Zero
09-03-05, 10:02
I hope you realise that releasing Neocron Internationally is pretty much useless.
Most people around the world interested in a game like this, have played it and have left it. And you're not bringing them back with a better newbie expierence that nobody will care about cause your only costumers are your loyal fans who after being lied and cheated to still pay you money for no reason at all except loving your game , no matter how shitty it has been at times and how shitty it still is.
I also hope you realise that you have about 1 more year to come up with an awesome new free ( lol )Neocron 3 / expansion that fixes everything possible up until now and makes the whole game worth paying for again. Cause if it doesn't happen this year, you can close your doors. And that is not ment to be insulting , and it's not motivating anyone either. But there's a reason why there are only 200 people playing on a server that can barely handle 1000.
200 will drop to 100 , which will drop to 50, and in the end you will be forced to close the doors. Cause the competition isn't sitting still either. And we'll have another game that will probably beat the shit out of this one on every terrain in about a year.
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