GM Recruitment

[Nidhogg]

We're currently looking to recruit three to four new English-speaking European-based GMs to our team. If you're in the UK or central European timezone, are 21 or over, have been playing for at least six months, have an active and clean NC2 game account and wish to apply then please send an email to Hollister@reakktor.com stating: Your name
Your age
Your forum account name (if you have one)
Your game account name
Your location
Your reason for wanting to join
If you are selected you will be asked to provide proof of identity (including age) and you will also be asked to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement. Good luck!

N

[Hell-demon]

damn I'm sixteen.... :(


I would still make a good GM :angel:

[LiL T]

Humm ummm

nah lol the fact I just want to play proves I could not be a GM what with all the whining and people needing help 24/7 with no thanks for it and no pay ....

[enigma_b17]

hhhhmmm interesting.....how long does the recruitment process last?

[Jesterthegreat]

gotta be from reg'd forum / game account email address?

cos i use my gmail one now :p

:edit: hmm... doesnt matter... i assumed it was 18 without readin it :p

[LiL T]

Well its good too know KK are looking for more GM's or are they just replacement s ? :(

[Jesterthegreat]

is there a reason its 21 as apposed to 18 (where your legally responsable for the NDA yourself)

im 20 in 10 days :p

[MkVenner]

gotta be from reg'd forum / game account email address?

cos i use my gmail one now :p

:edit: hmm... doesnt matter... i assumed it was 18 without readin it :p
im sure it used to be 18....

shame...im 3 years to young :(, othewise i would have applied....

[Jesterthegreat]

im sure it used to be 18....

shame...im 3 years to young :(, othewise i would have applied....


yeah last time they recruited i think it was 18.

damn shame tbh :(

[LiL T]

is there a reason its 21 as apposed to 18 (where your legally responsable for the NDA yourself)

im 20 in 10 days :p lol really It seemed to me you were much older than me lol and I'm 23 :lol:

/edit I'm still a kid at heart lol I don't know when this growing up is meant to happen :P

[Jesterthegreat]

lol really It seemed to me you were much older than me lol and I'm 23 :lol:


it's either assumed im 25ish or 12ish

:p

[LiL T]

it's either assumed im 25ish or 12ish

:p
Well I find its the people who you would PK ingame that seem to think you're 12 ish :lol:

[MkVenner]

people usually get a shock when they find out im only 18 by like a month...but i would defnatly thought jester was over 20 lol


//edit...dear god this keyboard is driving me nuts....i swear im this close to taking a golfclub to it...i got absolutly battered outside MB today coz can only run in one direction at a time lol....

[Jesterthegreat]

people usually get a shock when they find out im only 18 by like a mnth...but i would defnatly thought jeser was over 20 lol


in 11 days ill be a day over 20 :p

:edit:

@ MkV's edit: do you hold a button to run? i had that til i used a run toggle :p

[Genty]

Preperation for international release?

[MkVenner]

what it is, is where this key board im using is so old i can only hold like 2 buttons down at once...

so i hold shift and w to go forwards, then if i want to hit a to strafe at the same time it cancels out the w, so i got staight to the side...now if i use toggle run its not as bad....until i go to hit a number for a heal, or a stam, or a DB....and it cancles out the movement and im standing still....which isnt good....after the accdent i had with my decent keyboard its totaly fubar, so i gotta fork out for a new one :(


any way...back on topic...21 years old only aye....? poopy

:p

its totally fucked up my ability to fly choppers in BF:-DC and 'nam

[Heavyporker]

waaaah! Only european-based?!


*sniff sniff*

I wanted to abuse and terrify newbies and trade-channel spammers.

I'd be so good at it... the channel spammers would hate me more than they hate Niddhogg!

[Jesterthegreat]

any way...back on topic...

-snip-

its totally fucked up my ability to fly choppers in BF:-DC and 'nam


liez... thats off topic :p

[LiL T]

what it is, is where this key board im using is so old i can only hold like 2 buttons down at once...

so i hold shift and w to go forwards, then if i want to hit a to strafe at the same time it cancels out the w, so i got staight to the side...now if i use toggle run its not as bad....until i go to hit a number for a heal, or a stam, or a DB....and it cancles out the movement and im standing still....which isnt good....after the accdent i had with my decent keyboard its totaly fubar, so i gotta fork out for a new one :(


any way...back on topic...21 years old only aye....? poopy

:p

its totally fucked up my ability to fly choppers in BF:-DC and 'nam Humm you're Keyboard I would just throw it at the wall or break it over my knee ... indeed lots of smashed mouses that caused me to lose a duel but never a keyboard. I don't blame it really after the horrific murders of the mouses it has witnessed ^^ anyway quick fix for you is to press caps lock. This will make you type in caps but make you permently sprint. if you don't like talking in caps simply press shift while caps lock is on. Then you will start permently walking, then press caps lock again and you will permently sprint but not talk in caps.. If you know what I mean o_O

/edit when your pressing shift you need to be pressing the forward key or it does not work. it just don't work if your standing still is what I mean so if your simply talking on trade and use the shift key to make cap letters it will not effect it. which is good imo :)

[Nidhogg]

First one to remind me what the topic was gets a hero biscuit.

N

[Redburn]

waaaah! Only european-based?!


*sniff sniff*

I wanted to abuse and terrify newbies and trade-channel spammers.

I'd be so good at it... the channel spammers would hate me more than they hate Niddhogg!


Yea, what wrong with US based people. Wait I see you have to be able to hand over the, what was it kinderchocolete?

The topic was apps for GM english speaking and Euro based :mad:

[MkVenner]

yeah but then im pressing w to go forwards, a little left strafe (a+w) then a little right (d+w), then all right (just d), but if i hit 1-0 to use a stam it cancels out the w, a, d or any combination there of....which is annoying and deadly...so im abstaining from PVP until i get a new keyboard...itll probly take me that long to get repoked and buy a new BR2 :p

but anyway

offtopic is bad mmmkay (see how good a GM i would be :lol:))

@Nid the top is Sticky: GM Recruitment (http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?t=123243), now wheres my biccy :D

[LiL T]

yeah but then im pressing w to go forwards, a little left strafe (a+w) then a little right (d+w), then all right (just d), but if i hit 1-0 to use a stam it cancels out the w, a, d or any combination there of....which is annoying and deadly...so im abstaining from PVP until i get a new keyboard...itll probly take me that long to get repoked and buy a new BR2 :p

but anyway

offtopic is bad mmmkay (see how good a GM i would be :lol:))

@Nid the top is Sticky: GM Recruitment (http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?t=123243), now wheres my biccy :D Right to end this totaly off TOPIC disscusion I'd say you certainly need to smash your keyboard and get a new one theres no other way ....

[CMaster]

Eh, too young by 3 years and not played quite long enough. I'm on often enough. That said, I don't really want to be a support GM - event GM would rock though.

[dark_reaper]

I was going to be a GM till someone changed the rules to 21. :( otherwise I would have been an event GM. If you guys made me a GM, you would have a nice size studio and good editing equipment at no charge. There is always Next year. :D

[Brammers]

Clean NC2 game account? Yeap all the money gone through Phoenix's account is clean honest money....Honest guv!

[Asurmen Spec Op]

First one to remind me what the topic was gets a hero biscuit.

N gm porno recruitment

[Jesterthegreat]

I was going to be a GM till someone changed the rules to 21. :( otherwise I would have been an event GM. If you guys made me a GM, you would have a nice size studio and good editing equipment at no charge. There is always Next year. :D


yeah i woulda applied if it were ope to 20 year olds...

i played without quitting since nc1 beta 3... i was in nc2 closed beta... i know almost everything there is about the game...

but being 20 (yet still of a legal, binding contractal age) means i cant apply :(

[N3v3rM0r3]

what will be the role of gm?

i just see they only for set hair and th global trade

they'll can do some quest?

N3v3rM0r3

[Jesterthegreat]

what will be the role of gm?

i just see they only for set hair and th global trade

they'll can do some quest?

N3v3rM0r3


i imagine (as said by someone) it is to prepair for the int release, and more people

:edit: sonormal GM duties, helpdesk, ingame support.. etc

[CMaster]

Ahhm, job dealer - I could have hours of fun doing that.

[N3v3rM0r3]

:edit: sonormal GM duties, helpdesk, ingame support.. etc

i prefer a quester gamemaster.

think nobody need ingame support, or if he need exist "help channel" and is very good.

hmm... imho.... :p

N3v3rM0r3

[Jesterthegreat]

i prefer a quester gamemaster.

think nobody need ingame support, or if he need exist "help channel" and is very good.

hmm... imho.... :p

N3v3rM0r3


thing is... our opinion isnt important... we arent choosing prospective GM's duties... KK is :p

:edit: 1am... sleepy time... gn chaps

[N3v3rM0r3]

thing is... our opinion isnt important... we arent choosing prospective GM's duties... KK is :p

:edit: 1am... sleepy time... gn chaps

we re a comunity, i hope they read our post sometimes, for expample brainport.

N3v3rM0r3

[Dribble Joy]

Hmmmm.....

My forum record isn't clean though.... I got a 3 day ban about a year ago for spamming...

[Obsidian X]

I would love the job myself, have plenty of time and whatnot, but sadly I miss out by a year and a few months. :( :( :(

Edit: Niddy if we are slightly underage, can we not apply anyway, and you make us take some super-duper maturity and integrity test?

[LiL T]

Hmmmm.....

My forum record isn't clean though.... I got a 3 day ban about a year ago for spamming...
lol ?

I feel weird I have not had a ban ... I have had some warnings though :lol:

[Dr Strange]

Just a few questions, are there any American GM's? If not, will there ever be? If so, how come more aren't recruited? (seeing as how you're recruiting 4 gm's now..)

[Dribble Joy]

English speaking GMs can cover the US population.

The logistics of US (and other non EU based GMs) is probably tougher to sort through. With the NDA stuff and things.

Could be totally wrong though, as there are many US and non EU GMs around.
Infact I can only think of one english GM that I know of... if he is a GM still...



i prefer a quester gamemaster.

think nobody need ingame support, or if he need exist "help channel" and is very good.

hmm... imho....

N3v3rM0r3
Other way round actually.
They have shit loads of EGMs (Event GMs), what they need is SGMs (Support GMs).

[LiL T]

Just a few questions, are there any American GM's? If not, will there ever be? If so, how come more aren't recruited? (seeing as how you're recruiting 4 gm's now..) I'd put it down to it being due to euro release and I'd expect KK want to get this thing going in the UK and need english speaking GM's for that :)

I'm sure they will be looking for twice as many US based GM's once they get close to the US release date when and if that ever comes =/

[Dribble Joy]

Is the minimum/maximum word limit for your reasons why?

I only got about 200 so far.... and I hate exaggerating things....

[Mr Kot]

is there a reason its 21 as apposed to 18 (where your legally responsable for the NDA yourself)
"Legally" isn't really the issue here. What KK wants are mature people.




I don't really want to be a support GM - event GM would rock though.
Aren't they one and the same? I don't mean the roles, i mean the person behind the roles... doesn't the person at the keyboard do a bit of each?




My forum record isn't clean though.... I got a 3 day ban about a year ago for spamming...
Is it our forum record or game account record under scrutiny here? Not that it matters, i try to be a good boy :angel: Never been banz0red. Come to think of it, i've yet to have a forum post edited. :cool:

[Dirus]

Just a few questions, are there any American GM's? If not, will there ever be? If so, how come more aren't recruited? (seeing as how you're recruiting 4 gm's now..)A few US/Canada Based Support/Event GM's off the top of my head.

Plasmastorm: SO
Sandbender: SGM
Lavos: SGM
Onyx: SGM
Krysm: EGM
ShadowViper: SGM
Phase: EGM-Trial (I'll be sad when he loses his -t.. He's fun to abuse..) Edit: I forgot I still have Carbonite to abuse.
and myself: QAO

Basically the latest round of trial GM's are either finished their trial period or at the end of it. So the people who train them (Plasmastorm/Carbonite) can now start to train more. Right now the area that needs the most re-enforcements is the GMT based player's side of things as the last round was mainly North American based.

The Age 21 restriction came into place with NC2.

There is 3 main teams. SGM, EGM, & QA.

EGM's are pretty much seperate from the regular SGM's, as they're handled by the EO's (Arbiter/Chenoa). Tho all three teams usually lend each other a hand and do share the same areas of contact. This round is to bring in more SGM's.

[Jesterthegreat]

"Legally" isn't really the issue here. What KK wants are mature people.


the NC community know more than anyone that age != maturity.

there are 20-30 year olds that annoy the shit outa me with theirmaturity level (or lackof) and younger ones that are good, fun, mature people.

and @ Lupus: we know its new for NC2, but canyou tell us why?

[dark_reaper]

Now why did the age raised to 21? 90% of other games need to be atleast 18. I was a GM for Earth and Beyond sence I tested it from early beta. I know sony's policy is 18, UBI is 18, Squaresoft is 18. But getting into those is very hard. Most ot them are QA anyway.

But I am not worried about becomming a GM. I have gotten my self into a much bigger shoe. Starring Travolta, and Gandolfini in a movie called Lonely Hearts. Production Bitch > Grips muhahahahaha. Look for Dark Reaper in the Credits. :lol:

[MkVenner]

yeah...this game has more than taught me that age doesnt mean maturity lol

[Jesterthegreat]

yeah...this game has more than taught me that age doesnt mean maturity lol


i act mature most thetime, immature sometimes...

2 people so far on this thread have thought im older than i am...

shows actual age means nothing bar legality

[MkVenner]

shows actual age means nothing bar legality
and the only legal term i can think of that requires over 21 is on an insurance policy...

and i doubt thats the case here :p

[Jesterthegreat]

and the only legal term i can think of that requires over 21 is on an insurance policy...

and i doubt thats the case here :p


yeah 18 = you can sign an NDA (as appossedto your parents agreeing to it for you) but i dont see the legal significance of 21.

anyways, im off to work... see ya in4 n a bit hours for my lunch time forum session :p

[Zheo]

are 21 or over,
N

Awww damn and just 4 more months to go oh well maybe next time. :)

[Zheo]

yeah 18 = you can sign an NDA (as appossedto your parents agreeing to it for you) but i dont see the legal significance of 21.

anyways, im off to work... see ya in4 n a bit hours for my lunch time forum session :p

With that attitude I could say that being 18 is no more significant than a 17 year old who is 1 or 2 months from being 18. And if that is so then a 17 year old who is 3 or 4 months from being 18 is no less significant than the 17 year old who is 1 or 2 months... you see how this ends up getting younger and younger?

You are still growing physically until your 21. Thus that is significant. Mentally you never stop growing or changing. Keeping this in mind, there is 3 years between 18 and 21. There is also three years between a 13 year old and a 16 year old. You can probably see where this is going.

Some people are more developed than others however the governments of each country has to make a line (16/18/21) So they can be sure that all people are developed enough, at 21 you have three more years development in your life than an 18 year old... Thus the reason why a GM must be 21 or over.

[Bugs Gunny]

This is not about age.

This is about a certain kind of people that's willing to :

1) Be on call for helping out people with the same old problems over and over, instead of actualy playing the game.

2)Being cursed at by people, and still retaining a just stance.

3)Not giving favors to your ingame friends, no matter how much they ask for it.

4)Being nearly completely unselfish and wanting to add something to the game.

5)Having the time to actualy play every day or nearly every day and attending the gm meetings.

From what i've seen there aren't that many people in this game that qualify for the job. Actualy i think most people here want to be a gm because of the power it gives them, not at all for the job it realy is.
I can think of one player i've met ingame that's worth being a new gm, and that's heavyporker.

[naimex]

21 in 1 week :(

Would have tried to see if I qualified this time, but just dont have the time it takes anymore... :(

but i can still help just because i wont be a gm :)

so can we all :)

[dark_reaper]

You are right Bugs Gunny. I know the process is easier to deal with when the person is 21 years or older. Being a GM takes alot of commitment. Alot of it. Need at least 2 hours min a day to be a GM. If you are working a job, that is understandable.

When I look at a GM I think of an Air Traffic Controler. That job is a bitch. They have to control all of the traffic (in America) in class A- E airspaces. And They have to guide all of the IFR Pilots, make shure there is no mid air collisions. An ATC is I think one of the most stressful jobs you can get. I was supprised I passed the ATC test. ATC also have to deal with pilots. In the US there are 600,000 pilots, about 30% are ass holes.

When I look at a GM I think of an ATC, guiding people through Neocron. Helping with thier needs. Fixing problems, Guiding Neocron it self through changes. GM's also have to deal with alot of asshole players. You guys know who you are. The ones that bitches and moans about everything. You guys know who you are. Do you guys know what it takes, and how long it takes. For a simple bug It can take hours to a month. Then patching the new update takes a few hour to do.

Then you have your event GM. I would not complain to these GM. When they get an Idea of an Event they usually do it. Let the players have some fun. Like most other games, there are events, but there are very few of them. In Neocron there is atleast an event of some type either player or GM every week. Be glad that they alow players to have events like a parties and stuff and the GM's will usually help them out.

I was even supprised that I almost qualified for a EGM. Everything but the Age I think. For some of ya underage people. Fill out a GM app for your self, dont turn it in unless if it is ok with the GM to see if you are qualified besides the age. If not see what you need to work on. Then when the time come. You turn 21 and sign up to become a GM. You might get lucky.

For some of ya that wants to be a GM. Ask to see if you want to assist. Get to learn the tips of the Trade. That is what they told me to do. Ask to see if you can help. Especially the EGM, they could always use creative stories for the Neocronicle, or NeMag. If they ever come back. Even start your own thing if you want.

[Original monk]

im not applying this time, its very hard work and it takes so much dedicated time :) time that lazy gits like me can use to wonder around in neocron & have fun :)

reason i post in this post is yust to say that last time i had a great and delicious pizzatopping !

ok, have fun and most important (to KK): choose wisely :D

[jernau]

All these young'uns shouldn't be GMs - they should get back down that mine and dig me some coal. If that doesn't keep em busy my chimney needs cleaning.

:p




@Nid - Make Lexx a GM, you know you want to.

[[TgR]KILLER]

yea the 21 years suck. actually wanted to apply.. applied for a forum mod to ages ago :p i know the game.. i played for a long time.. but i turn 21 this year 6 months to wait :/ i'm 20 now so meh.

[Capt. Rik]

KILLER']yea the 21 years suck. actually wanted to apply.. applied for a forum mod to ages ago :p i know the game.. i played for a long time.. but i turn 21 this year 6 months to wait :/ i'm 20 now so meh.

Always thought you were much older than 20...

[Dribble Joy]

Ho hum.
Application away.

Not that there's much going for me.

[[TgR]KILLER]

Always thought you were much older than 20...

why you thought i was that old ? :( lol

[Capt. Rik]

KILLER']why you thought i was that old ? :( lol

No idea tbh... I don't know the age of many people on here... just a guess from the content of your posts i guess

[Dribble Joy]

Say what you will about maturity of young people, real world experience and knowledge of how to deal with life in the real world and deal with real people (Ie. people not behind a comp, which arguably is not the best way to measure someones maturity or get a real appreciation of their personallity) is what is going to matter.
This experience (coupled with a tolerance born of a base maturity) is what they are going after imo.

[Jesterthegreat]

Say what you will about maturity of young people, real world experience and knowledge of how to deal with life in the real world and deal with real people (Ie. people not behind a comp, which arguably is not the best way to measure someones maturity or get a real appreciation of their personallity) is what is going to matter.
This experience (coupled with a tolerance born of a base maturity) is what they are going after imo.


certainly should be...

i've worked in the support area for a few years, know almost everything there is to know about the game, have ICT support qualifications, networking qualifications, and play for 40+ hours a week 8|

and when im not op waring... im just leveling a noob or chatting, i would happily donate alot of those hours to GMing.

:edit:

i currently play 8pm - 3am tue - fri, with the possibility of all day sat - mon (depending on RL commitments)

:Edit2:

basically whenever im not workin, if i dont have RL stuff to do, im playin. i play almost no other games much :p

[MkVenner]

certainly should be...blah blah blah :p
pretty much the same here, well i dont have the qualifcations but you only have to look at the IRC stats to see how much spare time i have lol, unemployed, and all my mates/gf are at work/college lol

[jernau]

Being a GM is not just being a player++.

[netster]

hmmmm i would apply, but i dont want to :
- i dont really know anyone except my clan (which makes me kinda "neutral" to all others, because i cannot say something about all the others pluto/uranus players (loved or hated)) :)
- i really dont have the time (or i will loose my new gf, what i dont really want to ;) )
- i would have to style just another alt ego 8| :rolleyes: :p ;) :lol:
- i need to level my other chars to a kinda usefull level (time)
- i could be your evul-dream-GM *spawnspawnspawnspawnspawn* :angel:


other sides, that i would like to see :
- helping out other players
- level/zone-design ?? :D

[Jesterthegreat]

Being a GM is not just being a player++.


well aware... but the game / technical knowledge, as well as being able to explain things to non techies (all of which i have / can do) are the most important things in my eyes.

that and trust of course

[netster]

:Edit2:

basically whenever im not workin, if i dont have RL stuff to do, im playin. i play almost no other games much :p
haha me too NCjunkie, just the lil pipe of neocrack installed on my mainbox atm ;))

apparently you'er the one i know back from uranus (i was Sexy Elvis, befor i left cron for 1/2 year). okay ... you & elchi.... :D

edit: when i was back at cron, i moved to jupiter, so i wasnt a real active person on english servers :rolleyes:

[Jesterthegreat]

haha me too NCjunkie, just the lil pipe of neocrack installed on my mainbox atm ;))

apparently you'er the one i know back from uranus (i was Sexy Elvis, befor i left cron for 1/2 year). okay ... you & elchi.... :D

edit: when i was back at cron, i moved to jupiter, so i wasnt a real active person on english servers :rolleyes:


aye its still me from uranus :p

account has never been closed or changed hands.

[Bugs Gunny]

I doubt most people realize what it's all about to be a gm.
The constant stream of helptickets etc must drive them nuts.

I have a lot of respect for gm's, and i wouldn't want to be one.

It probably takes away the "magic" of the game too when you cna just spawn you own char some MC5's and shit.

[jernau]

I doubt most people realize what it's all about to be a gm.
The constant stream of helptickets etc must drive them nuts.

I have a lot of respect for gm's, and i wouldn't want to be one.
Exactly. I do wonder how many applicants just vanish after the first week or so.


It probably takes away the "magic" of the game too when you cna just spawn you own char some MC5's and shit.
They can't spawn anything.

[Bugs Gunny]

OMG !!!

*Selling 112/120 MC5 Hercules chip to a gm, going cheap* :-)

I thought they could spawn weapons etc.

[jernau]

Nope but they can turn into mobs if they want (and can remember the codes :p).

[Odin]

Exactly. I do wonder how many applicants just vanish after the first week or so.


They can't spawn anything.

Due to the earlier troubles with GM's (hence the age restriction as most of the trouble ones were between 18-21) the system really did get tightened up. Doesn't take long to see which ones got what it takes and which ones don't.

[enigma_b17]

haha me too NCjunkie, just the lil pipe of neocrack installed on my mainbox atm ;))

apparently you'er the one i know back from uranus (i was Sexy Elvis, befor i left cron for 1/2 year). okay ... you & elchi.... :D

edit: when i was back at cron, i moved to jupiter, so i wasnt a real active person on english servers :rolleyes:

i 3rd that

[Original monk]

I doubt most people realize what it's all about to be a gm.
The constant stream of helptickets etc must drive them nuts.

I have a lot of respect for gm's, and i wouldn't want to be one.

It probably takes away the "magic" of the game too when you cna just spawn you own char some MC5's and shit.

i was thinking the same thing, they work hard but dont get alot of respect ... if anything goes wrong its their fault (they represent KK) and on the old saturn server they got bitched on quite often ..

plus the first thing they hear when they go somewhere is: can you spawn me that powerfull chip/weapon PLEASE ???? and if they dont respond to that cause its the 5 bazillioned time its been asked then its: COMMON BAD GM DO ME A FAVOUR IM POOR :/ YOU HAVE NO HEART etc etc etc

for once its ok but everyone asking questions and going on and on and on and all going nuts then i would yust strangle em lol ... but as a GM you cant strangle people cause you gotta give the good example :)

anyway, i say make jernau a GM ... he knows he's stuff, he's patient and kind to people and is 200 if not 300 % thrustworthy ...

have fun

[netster]

I doubt most people realize what it's all about to be a gm.
The constant stream of helptickets etc must drive them nuts.
wellcome to the world of support :angel: i was 2 years compaq support, its like having a dejavue after the other :D
btw ... tickets dont hurt, just the reply's u'll receive

[Conduit]

Though there are some younger people who are generally more mature for their age, and some older people who need to grow up a bit, there are solid and compelling reasons for the age limit to be 21+.


I doubt most people realize what it's all about to be a gm.
The constant stream of helptickets etc must drive them nuts.
I have a lot of respect for gm's, and i wouldn't want to be one.
Bingo!
Becoming a GM is, I'm lead to believe, a big commitment, and you can probably wave goodbye to being very active as a regular player once you're signed up to the GM team.
I have major respect for someone who volunteers to give up their free play time to help others because, basically, they love the game and/or the people who play it that much.


Being a GM is not just being a player++.
They should print that at the top of each application form :P

Good luck to all applicants.

/edit for spelling

[Xaru]

How much time do you have to invest into beeing a GM as a minimum? Is there a rule for that?

Regards
Xaru

[[TgR]KILLER]

Due to the earlier troubles with GM's (hence the age restriction as most of the trouble ones were between 18-21) the system really did get tightened up. Doesn't take long to see which ones got what it takes and which ones don't.

so again a few rotten apples kill it for us good people :'(

[Xylaz]

KILLER']so again a few rotten apples kill it for us good people :'(

c'mon killer, dont tell me your below 21 :D

[Oath]

If you want to be a good gm.

Ask yourself these questions.

Do you have the time to take on the job? because thats what it is, a job.
Do you have the patience to deal with people being complete fucking assholes?
Do you have the patience to deal with unexpected things?
Do you have 100% commitment to this game? and to the company?
Do you work well alone? in a team?
Are you willing to assist the reakktor staff as well as the gm's even after your trial period?
Are you using your position simply to get information on the game? the company?
Are you simply there to try and get a paid position?
Do you have a bad attitude towards people? that you don't necessarily get on with?

After that there are some things you'll need.

A sense of humour.
Patience.
Time.
Patience.
To keep your mouth shut.
Patience.

You're gonna have to deal with a lot of attitudes, a lot of bullshit, and your going to need to accept that its part of the ride, you must be willing to follow procedure at all times, even when you feel like busting someone face all over the fucking wall.

It is a great experience, it looks great on a cv, sometimes its rewarding, most of the time its a fucking headache. I cannot stress how important it is to be patient, if you can't accept any of this then it's not for you.

Akuji oot.

[Lexxuk]

@Nid - Make Lexx a GM, you know you want to.

Meh, a GM? :o I applied a long long time ago, and was told me to re-apply in a couple of months, which I did, and they never got back to me :p Besides, Niddy wants me as a forum moderator :angel:

[Zheo]

there are 20-30 year olds that annoy the shit outa me with theirmaturity level (or lackof) and younger ones that are good, fun, mature people.


LOL maybe there like me, put up with annoying customers who are basically morons then come on NC and have to deal with abusive children... kinda pisses you right off! But im starting to get a handle on it.

"Hey your a f**k head!"

"Welcome to my ignore list!"

:) Problem solved.

[Zheo]

You're gonna have to deal with a lot of attitudes, a lot of bullshit, and your going to need to accept that its part of the ride, you must be willing to follow procedure at all times, even when you feel like busting someone face all over the fucking wall.

It is a great experience, it looks great on a cv, sometimes its rewarding, most of the time its a fucking headache. I cannot stress how important it is to be patient, if you can't accept any of this then it's not for you.

Akuji oot.

Yes to most of those I deal with most of that at my current job. Do GM ever get people who are out just to have ago at them! We do at work, supermarket (but we're kind of a posh supermarket). And all the rich people look down to you, all the old people pretent they cant see anything or hear (when they can other wise they'd never have found the store) and then theres the people who just come to have ago at you, few customers get banned for that alone! Plus all the people I dont mention because they are good customers and if they can't find something or it's out of stock accept it, instead of expecting you to know everything. Helps me sympathise with KK about my position (being that I can't play NC atm) I accept they have no idea what the problem is, thus I have as much chance of fixing it as they do.

PS: Akuji you gonna take my case up again! please!!! who'evers doing helpdesk ignored my email or at least never sent a responce, I really don't want to have to quit NC!!

[Jesterthegreat]

"Welcome to my ignore list!"


i prefer "ignore list +1" :p

and yeah... im well aware that GM's work hard, ad just get the abuse cospeople dont like fataling etc :p

[Carbonite]

Do GM ever get people who are out just to have ago at them!

ya there are some from time to time... last ones i remember was on saturn...

[Dribble Joy]

When does this close and any idea on the kind of timeframe till our rejection letters come? :p

[Danae]

Carb doesn't reject people he just ignores them infinitly :p He's too nice!

[enigma_b17]

When does this close and any idea on the kind of timeframe till our rejection letters come? :p

What dj said :D

[Jesterthegreat]

any chance this age rule will be lowered to 18 (i say 18 as thats when you can sign a legally binding contract such as an NDA) for people who have proven their responsibility...

maybe someone who (along with Danae) found a place to hold SUKING and worked with KK, and the host to arrange it?

or someone who put together an event with about 30 people (first uranus mc5 exploration) which a GM (steph Rodriguez) tagged along with and became (kinda) part of the storyline (Steph was looking for her brother, who was later found after escaping from MC5)

obviously even if this happened the candidate would still have to have a successful application to become a GM, not just become a GM because he has done things in the past.

[Obsidian X]

any chance this age rule will be lowered to 18 (i say 18 as thats when you can sign a legally binding contract such as an NDA) for people who have proven their responsibility...

maybe someone who (along with Danae) found a place to hold SUKING and worked with KK, and the host to arrange it?

or someone who put together an event with about 30 people (first uranus mc5 exploration) which a GM (steph Rodriguez) tagged along with and became (kinda) part of the storyline (Steph was looking for her brother, who was later found after escaping from MC5)

obviously even if this happened the candidate would still have to have a successful application to become a GM, not just become a GM because he has done things in the past.

I agree with Jester - I'd love the job, I have a clean account, never been banned from game or forums, never been warned, always been a good boy, and have plenty of time and dedication to put into the job :angel: Yet becuase of a silly number next to my name, I'm automatically shoved aside :(

At the age of 19, I can vote for who should lead my country, own property, gamble, own a credit card, drive a car, etc, give me a chance to be a GM! :angel:

[MkVenner]

lol nice try guys, but if they let one undr 21, they'll wanna be lt in :p

[[TgR]KILLER]

yea lower it to 20! :D then its ok.. i'm 20.. and afaik i got a clean sheet.. and i reported h4x0rs so i'm fluffy and all ^^

[Dribble Joy]

At the age of 19, I can vote for who should lead my country, own property, gamble, own a credit card, drive a car, etc, give me a chance to be a GM! :angel:
Can't drive a hire car though! :p

(*roffles at Jenson Button, who's Dad had to drive him around*)

[Xylaz]

yeah lower it to 18 or something like that, older folks usually dont have that much free time to spare - so sooner or later you will be forced to do this.

Besides i'd love to see killer as a GM :p

[Carbonite]

I see no reason at the current moment to lower the age restriction...

I will start sending mails today, so keep an eye on the mailbox.

I will most likely close the thread latest friday if the current flow of mails keeps up.

[Mighty Max]

I wonder how much mails of these will be caught by a providers spamfilter ... So ppl check it :p

(Just had the prob that helpdesk gone directly to the junk-folder)

[Crest]

Can't drive a hire car though! :p

(*roffles at Jenson Button, who's Dad had to drive him around*)


Cant leagally drink a beer in texas, but could watch basic Instinct on release
Can be married, but cant be GM

[Dribble Joy]

I wonder how much mails of these will be caught by a providers spamfilter ... So ppl check it :p

(Just had the prob that helpdesk gone directly to the junk-folder)
Same with my beta acceptance mail.


Cant leagally drink a beer in texas, but could watch basic Instinct on release
Can be married, but cant be GM
Can't drink in most if not all of the US.

[[TgR]KILLER]

I see no reason at the current moment to lower the age restriction...


last time it was 18 but i din't have time.. now its 21 and i'm not 21 for 6 months.. not funny :'( gming / helping people would at least keep me busy :p

[aKe`cj]

if you're willing to contribute beyond usual pro-active posting on the forums / running stuff ingame, there are many ways to help. The last thing you need to help neocron & do something for the community is a GM-tag.. if all of you have so much spare time, the urge to push the game ahead, the feel to help out the community & furthermore you are mature enough to "not just send in an application because you want the tools + power" ... then I really wonder why there aren't more UK/US based "freelancers" ;)

edit: big pro - no age restriction & you can be mental, inmature, anti-social... as long as you are a workaholic :D

[Jesterthegreat]

if you're willing to contribute beyond usual pro-active posting on the forums / running stuff ingame, there are many ways to help. The last thing you need to help neocron & do something for the community is a GM-tag.. if all of you have so much spare time, the urge to push the game ahead, the feel to help out the community & furthermore you are mature enough to "not just send in an application because you want the tools + power" ... then I really wonder why there aren't more UK/US based "freelancers" ;)

edit: big pro - no age restriction & you can be mental, inmature, anti-social... as long as you are a workaholic :D


i help peeps ingame, cst for free (though dont give out money... noobs gotta learn to survive), and i try to help onthe forums alot :p

[[TgR]KILLER]

if you're willing to contribute beyond usual pro-active posting on the forums / running stuff ingame, there are many ways to help. The last thing you need to help neocron & do something for the community is a GM-tag.. if all of you have so much spare time, the urge to push the game ahead, the feel to help out the community & furthermore you are mature enough to "not just send in an application because you want the tools + power" ...

neocron.org was started by me! altho dax took it over from me when there were internal bitching in NC1 within fa and i left for a month.

and i don't just want power etc i wanna help :p but i suck at building sites just learning php mysql etc on college so wasn't good to start a site :p dax had to do most stuff himself. gave him loads of info etc.. nc.org is down atm tho think it was because of him unable to get nc2. but can't remember. been gone for 2 months because of c2p in dec / jan.

[aKe`cj]

please dont get me wrong :)
I didn't want to say that there is no voluntary commitment.
I just wanted to point out that there are many areas where you can contribute apart from GM'ing.. stuff you can do w/o being 21+ years old and meeting the very strict criteria GM applicants have to face.
If you've done stuff before already and noticed it didnt work out to well...okies, but why dont you take a minute to note down what your personal strengths & interests are. Sometimes you cant move much alone, but when a bunch of skilled people group up instead of running their own show -
a) they archive more + can focus on their area of expertise/skill & thus its more rewarding imho
b) its easier for the volunteers & KK to support em ..which
c) adds to a)

concerning the free-const etc... thats not exactly what I was refering to ;)
(apart from me disliking free trade-offers / throwing items & money at nibs... but thats a different story, to be discussed somewhere else)

[Dribble Joy]

[edit] ffs, stupid IE.

[naimex]

KILLER'] nc.org is down atm tho think it was because of him unable to get nc2. but can't remember. been gone for 2 months because of c2p in dec / jan.




There was a poll open for quite some time, if people were actually using it, and almost no one voted on it.

so it would seem stupid to spend several weeks over again, to get each items bonus´es and negates and requirements, name, weight and what not.

I did it in nc1, spend 3 weeks and sat practically 24/7 (im serious about that i sat day and night cuz i was out of school and out of job).

and then when nc2 came, so many changes were made, and no one really knew what, and a lot were added, and then some changed later in, and it all just got messed up, so the only legal way to do things accurate, would be to spend a couple of weeks again, which neither me nor daxxy has anymore.

and since no one voted that they were using it, and the forums was practically dead.

Thats the reason we decided to discontinue the site.

[imAchair]

nah i prob get bored and start spawning ppl infront of grims.....

[[TgR]KILLER]

i know nai.. i'v been following the site till the end. dax had all the info i collected before to. don't remmeber but was a zip file full of stuff. i think most people use nc.synergyxr.net nowadays. got it linked myself to tbh :x

[darkservent]

Well I dont mind being a GM as I have alotta free time on my hands. But atm Im concentrating on gettin a Job so I dont think its for me at this time. Oh well maybe another day another time. Plus my accounts not active as Im broke.

[Dribble Joy]

They probably just want people who have support experience, which is what I don't have.

[jernau]

They probably just want people who have support experience, which is what I don't have.
That's a filthy lie DJ.

You do a fine job of propping up any bar within staggering range :p.

[SnAkE_BE]

damn 1 age short on it

damn.

want to be able to make neocron better for all the players

[Dribble Joy]

That's a filthy lie DJ.

You do a fine job of propping up any bar within staggering range :p.
I'm better at slumping in chairs though, easier to play cards from them. :p

[Skusty]

Nothing for me... :( to young to :p

[enigma_b17]

have all the positions been offered to ppl yet so i can stop waiting by my keyboard or is there still hope :D

?

[Jesterthegreat]

damn 1 age short on it

damn.

want to be able to make neocron better for all the players


tough...

we arent allowed to

:rolleyes:

[Xylaz]

patience, my youngsters, is a virtue... :p

[Carbonite]

hehe well said...

The thread will close now, i am not accepting any further gm application mails to my mail adress... All future mails with inquires about being a GM must go to Gmjobs@neocron.com

All of you that has not heard back from me about the GM application will get a mail by saturday.

All future thoughts or questions about this issue should go to my PM box or my mail.