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Liebestoter
28-02-05, 13:11
Okay.

NC says I cap CS. Neoskiller tells me 202% damage.
I yank an imp. NC still says I cap CS. Neoskiller tells me 191.8% damage.

WHO IS THE LIAR?!

TELL ME. o_O
MkVenner
28-02-05, 13:13
i dont think neoskiller has been updated since the last skill requirment changes...
Liebestoter
28-02-05, 13:15
Losing that 10.2% in damage would be unacceptable. I must know the truth.
MkVenner
28-02-05, 13:18
im pretty sure neocron is going to know more about what its doing, than a 3rd party proggie made using formulas worked by the community (no disrespect to neoskiller is pwns :D)...

tho...this is nc :p
netster
28-02-05, 13:31
last version of neoskiller was befor the patch came which changed the hc/wep handling-change. same goes to pc/rc.
l8m0n
28-02-05, 13:50
Losing that 10.2% in damage would be unacceptable. I must know the truth.
m8 its a game :rolleyes:
Ascension
28-02-05, 14:19
m8 its a game :rolleyes:
I think he was being sarcastic ;)
Liebestoter
28-02-05, 14:21
I think he was being sarcastic ;)

I wasn't :(
LiL T
28-02-05, 14:53
Neoskiller seems to work out total armour + con resist slightly wrong but not all the time. If you go by con x 0.9 + armour which I think is the correct way (pretty sure) neoskiller can be wrong sometimes, but its does certainly pwn very usefull proggie :)
MkVenner
28-02-05, 16:18
i think its con x 0.9 +armour untl the total resit is <100, once its 100=> its like 1.2 instead of 0.9

i think

im probly wrong..

i usually am :p
Mechanicus
28-02-05, 16:21
just go with the exact opposite of what lil t says, its probally right
Bugs Gunny
28-02-05, 16:25
hehehe, yeah it's 0.9 armor and then con a full 100%.
Dribble Joy
28-02-05, 16:29
The value used to determine dmg absorbtion is your total armour.

Resists ADD to your armour value.
The armour bonus from 0 resist to 100 is the resist times 0.9.
From 101 to 114 the relation ship changes.
At 114 (the value at which the armour bonus caps) the armour bonus is 119.

The total armour cap is 200, which equates to 76% dmg absorbed.

No known changes in this have been seen to have happened, so the info at http://neocron.ems.ru/resist.html still holds true.
Tostino
28-02-05, 19:25
I don't think that he got the wpn caps right. I hope that he will get it right soon.
Edit: maybe he still needs us to post our skills and the stats we get on our guns so he can work it out.
LiL T
28-02-05, 20:33
The value used to determine dmg absorbtion is your total armour.

Resists ADD to your armour value.
The armour bonus from 0 resist to 100 is the resist times 0.9.
From 101 to 114 the relation ship changes.
At 114 (the value at which the armour bonus caps) the armour bonus is 119.

The total armour cap is 200, which equates to 76% dmg absorbed.

No known changes in this have been seen to have happened, so the info at http://neocron.ems.ru/resist.html still holds true.
Thought so thats why I never work out resists on skill managers and if 119 = 73 % protection then theres not much difference between 119 and 135 total armour =)

Infact if its 300 damage then going form 119 armour to 135 armour thats about 1.76 dammage reduction or am I talking complete shite
naimex
28-02-05, 20:49
Okay.

NC says I cap CS. Neoskiller tells me 202% damage.
I yank an imp. NC still says I cap CS. Neoskiller tells me 191.8% damage.

WHO IS THE LIAR?!

TELL ME. o_O


i feel stupid now..

isnt it

dmg cap 178 %
aim cap 267 %

? cuz then you would be capping it actually more than capping it according to neoskiller.

i might remember wrong that its 278 % dmg and 167 % aim but i dont think so.

damn its so long since i looked at stats on my hc tank...
Tostino
28-02-05, 21:00
Naimex you had it right the first time. All guns cap dmg at 178% and aim at 267%.
sultana
01-03-05, 02:48
Okay.

NC says I cap CS. Neoskiller tells me 202% damage.
I yank an imp. NC still says I cap CS. Neoskiller tells me 191.8% damage.

WHO IS THE LIAR?!

TELL ME. o_O
Naimex is right, 202% means your actually overcapping your CS (the damage cap being 178%), when you yank your imp 191 is still > then 178.
Liebestoter
01-03-05, 04:30
... the overcap means nothing, yes?
LiL T
01-03-05, 04:36
... the overcap means nothing, yes?
You can't over cap

yes it means nothing and is a waste of points
AlphaGremlin
02-03-05, 12:26
NeoSkiller is totally inaccurate for the weapon statistics, do NOT trust them for anything except perhaps judging how much effect something has on your weapon. The actual figures are wrong.
AlphaGremlin
naimex
02-03-05, 12:40
NeoSkiller is totally inaccurate for the weapon statistics, do NOT trust them for anything except perhaps judging how much effect something has on your weapon. The actual figures are wrong.
AlphaGremlin

you should fix that. :p


see how much confusion you made..

dah!.