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mishkin

15-02-05, 17:16

Xer

15-02-05, 18:04

I've already made my noob there!!! *holds up Mars > Terra banners* Lets go! Like lemmings :D form an orderly queue people..

But seriously.. i'm gonna play there..Terra's lost out in the ass end of no where and the devs dont have a map..

Heavyporker

15-02-05, 18:05

Everyone moves to Mars....

Terra ally gankers move to Mars too...

Ally Gankers close Mars down.

Everyone moves to Pandore...

Terra/Mars ally gankers move to Pandore too...

Ally Gankers close Pandore down...

Everyone moves to....

Get my drift?

Xer

15-02-05, 18:12

Ally Gankers close Mars down.
With a larger, more stable player base that does'nt approve of allied killings (which does'nt bother me anyway o_O i hav'nt had a problem with it) already in place there, no i dont think that will happen.

Besides this is'nt just about allied gankers, why try to fight allied gankers in the first place when you can't see past your green PEs fat ass?

Pungent77

15-02-05, 21:01

There are ally killers on every server

mishkin

15-02-05, 21:07

Everyone moves to Mars....

Terra ally gankers move to Mars too...

Ally Gankers close Mars down.

Doubt this'll happen, people are usually more keen on keeping their reputation/money/items when they've only got one slot to care for. Pluto was a great example of this. Politics actually mean something, which they really don't on Terra. Emptying Terra would help kk and the players...

Jesterthegreat

15-02-05, 21:52

Zheo

15-02-05, 23:28

There are ally killers on every server

You mean spoilled little brats who spend 24/7 on neocron cos they have no lives, and they get to feel big when killing a 0/2 noob who's in plaza asking how to use a knife? Yes there are ally killers on every server...doesn't matter if we moved to mars more allied killers more ppl complaining more ppl that dont ally kill only difference is it'd be more populated.

Zheo

15-02-05, 23:31

Doubt this'll happen, people are usually more keen on keeping their reputation/money/items when they've only got one slot to care for. Pluto was a great example of this. Politics actually mean something, which they really don't on Terra. Emptying Terra would help kk and the players...

How could i leave all my stuff for a 1slot server i'd have to trust other people (outside a close circle of friends)

Also i did have a though, on a one slot server, are there actually any trade skillers? cos i REALLY couldn't stand to be a trade skiller only.

E. Cryton

15-02-05, 23:34

almost no allied-pking.

lets change it.

NeoWolfie

15-02-05, 23:48

The whole thing is a vicious circle that was incredibly easy to start, yet will be near impossible to stop. Theres only a couple things KK can do really to help stop the whole thing. But even those have their downsides and limit the game.

The first is to adjust how hard/easy it is to get FS/SL back. This has it's downsides at the moment due to issues like SL/FS loss with npc kills, especially with the bugged epics. As for regular NPC's, well some of them can't be targeted/killed, if they were all set like that with the exception of the epic npc's then that shouldnt be a problem anymore. Then again it does limit the player's like those who want to run around and killer the strippers ability to do so. But in that case they should get a FS/SL hit, so who knows, I can't be bothered to figure out all that right now.

The second is to put in a system where if Player A attacks Player B, Player B is flagged against a SL/FS hit for killing Player A if they're in a allied/neutral faction. Tho I'm sure someone could find an argument against this as well.

As for the Players side of things. This is where it gets tricky. The players have the power to stop it, but really only those who started it can, which they won't since they enjoy the reaction they get out of everyone for doing it.

There are people out there who play games just to annoy others. Getting pissed at them, cursing their name and everything else just drives them to do it more, they want to see how far they can push you. If you quit because of them they're even happier.

Then there are others like the above mentioned but they have a different purpose, they're not out to get the players themselves pissed off per-say, but do it as a form of getting at KK. The more people they get pissed off at KK for "not fixing the problem" the happier they are. "Hey look I made another cancel! take that KK!! When theres no one left I'll quit as well since my job will be done"

Other people just want to role-play as a criminal, or as a spy for the other side, they'll create a char in the opposite city as a "mole" and create as much chaos as they can in a form of rebellion. These people I have no problem with, they're roleplaying. A faction like Anarchy Breed wouldn't be of any interest to them since they can't act as a "mole" while in an anarchist faction. This is usually where the people from the first two groups like to try and hide behind as their "reason" for doing what they do.

5 Clans, all pro-city. Allied meaning they help each other out when needed, not to be confused with the allied in the F6 window.

Clan A has a problem with Clan B,
Clan C is allied with Clan A,
Clan D is allied with Clan B,
Clan E is Allied with Clan B & C.
See a vicious cricle starting here?

It only takes 2 members hating each other to set off a chain of hatered among a group of clans, especially if the clan their in backs them up fully no questions asked.

For the record, yes I have attacked an ally/neutral before, did it lastnight. Unprovoked but only with the knowledge that the person I attacked has the intentions of leaving their current faction for one that is hostile. Hence in my eyes, they're currently just a mole and will be treated like one. I attacked, and died for it. :)

Jesterthegreat

16-02-05, 00:15

You mean spoilled little brats who spend 24/7 on neocron cos they have no lives, and they get to feel big when killing a 0/2 noob who's in plaza asking how to use a knife? Yes there are ally killers on every server...doesn't matter if we moved to mars more allied killers more ppl complaining more ppl that dont ally kill only difference is it'd be more populated.

lets use me as an example?

1. im not sploiled. i earn my own money, i pay my own rent.

2. i work a 10 hour day, i have a social life. i still hang out with friends with school, as well as people i have met since. i go out to drink, have fun, smoke, see bands, or just hang out.

3. i dont kill any 0/2 noobs, unless they really piss me off or they get in the crossfire.

you on the other hand seem to be pathetically obsessed with this. you whine in almost every post i see. and people say ups have to grow up? :rolleyes:

:edit: oh and by the way... read the thread before posting. all the multiple posts you do in alot of threads are more against the rules than any ally killing.

Asurmen Spec Op

16-02-05, 00:18

lets change it. you go I stay

Jesterthegreat

16-02-05, 00:24

a few ncat have had some "fun" there already.

i know i have :D

Kopaka

16-02-05, 00:43

Kopaka

16-02-05, 00:46

you realise that "all" moving wont stop "ally-pking"...

especially when all the "evil ally kill0rz!" i know have *or higher rank chars there already...

jester.... be quiet about that! we got dif names there and no clan so they dont know us.. yet!
again i say: when we going to mars? :D

Jesterthegreat

16-02-05, 00:47

im down with that.. when we going to Mars?

dont lie to them...

we already have chars there :p

trigger hurt

16-02-05, 00:49

You've already got a char on mars Black Heart.

I have an 87 dex rifle spy there with full kit. but the server is boring, tbh. You want to see the german version of FF? Fight against NeXT.

Jesterthegreat

16-02-05, 00:58

You've already got a char on mars Black Heart.

I have an 87 dex rifle spy there with full kit. but the server is boring, tbh. You want to see the german version of FF? Fight against NeXT.

my PPU is ** there... straight from pluto...

but i cba to play there for now.

Ninjano2002uk

16-02-05, 01:11

I moved to mars Years ago, from Terra got a almost capped APU there, as i said from along time ago lucky me i never had to put up with any of the FF so called di ckheads ^^ :p
which is still abit harsh as i have only been allyed killed twice.. only clan i wana see get "edited for forum rules" & die is Ups ^^

Jesterthegreat

16-02-05, 01:13

die

hope thats not a death threat...

i believe thats why manypeople got banned

Kopaka

16-02-05, 01:56

some1 deaththreatened me ingame in a foreign language.. dont think KK cares if u send in screenshot, they'll think its spam *looks at Lupus's post*

Dirus

16-02-05, 01:59

some1 deaththreatened me ingame in a foreign language.. dont think KK cares if u send in screenshot, they'll think its spam *looks at Lupus's post*
Spam I'm talking about is real spam, which by the way if you ever need any anti-depressants I think I can find about 50 different places to buy it at cheaper then retail. :rolleyes:

Jesterthegreat

16-02-05, 02:01

Spam I'm talking about is real spam, which by the way if you ever need any anti-depressants I think I can find about 50 different places to buy it at cheaper then retail. :rolleyes:

I'm confused...

Lexxuk

16-02-05, 02:20

Spam I'm talking about is real spam, which by the way if you ever need any anti-depressants I think I can find about 50 different places to buy it at cheaper then retail. :rolleyes:

I'll take some viagra if ur offerin luppy :p

Sineater

16-02-05, 03:49

Ok, just a thought that bubbled up in my mind... Let the community fix the current situation on Terra. Let's all move to Mars, that'll make the population there around 300-500 players. No character-bugs, less login-problems and best of all, almost no allied-pking. LET'S GO! :D :D

/edit - This way with almost no-one playing on terra, kk could take it down and fix everything slowly.... then put it up again when the int-release comes. ;)
yeap thatd be a good idea, what are we gunna do turn mars into an english speaking server :rolleyes: or maybe we all move to pandora and make that another german server im sure that will go down well o_O <<==sarcasm

only usable solution is ally killer = banished from faction to either anarchy breed or factionless. after all if you want to RP an ally killer last time i checked Ally killers got ececuted or banished so RP result should be the same. i dont know about anyone else but if someone killed my friends in real life i wouldnt be counting them among my allies thats for sure.

Jesterthegreat

16-02-05, 04:05

yeap thatd be a good idea, what are we gunna do turn mars into an english speaking server :rolleyes: or maybe we all move to pandora and make that another german server im sure that will go down well o_O <<==sarcasm

only usable solution is ally killer = banished from faction to either anarchy breed or factionless. after all if you want to RP an ally killer last time i checked Ally killers got ececuted or banished so RP result should be the same. i dont know about anyone else but if someone killed my friends in real life i wouldnt be counting them among my allies thats for sure.

actually the most usable solution is players stopping whining and doingsomehing about it.

dont expect KK to do every little thing for you.

and tbh if they change something like this and still refuse to change things like para which has been hated by the majority for years... well... i dunno what :p

trigger hurt

16-02-05, 06:58

actually the most usable solution is players stopping whining and doingsomehing about it.

dont expect KK to do every little thing for you.

and tbh if they change something like this and still refuse to change things like para which has been hated by the majority for years... well... i dunno what :p

Difference here is, people are quitting the game in mass or switching factions in mass because of para-spam. People are, however, leaving the game because you're too lazy to gr to desert race track.

Morganth

16-02-05, 07:23

I have a capped and kitted APU on Mars, and it wouldn't take me long to start a PE there either, or find a character that is in limbo to move over there.

However, I know there are already assbandits over there, so why should I move when my home server contains the same buttmonkies?

Phlith

16-02-05, 12:11

I got a capped tank, near capped apu on mars. Great server tbh, and 90% of the people speak english. No bull sh!t though, i havent seen any ally ganking on that server. Yes there are tradeskillers also. Lots of different factions, although the dominent clan(s) is NEXT. Anti city on mars is like pro city on terra, very out numbered.

E. Cryton

16-02-05, 13:01

you go I stay
i play on both servers

Original monk

16-02-05, 13:26

i dont see why anyone would run away from he's homeserver ... let alone if the reason are other players ingame ..

if you got problems they can be solved witouth running away you know, you dont wonna lower yourself to griefer standards ? fine by me ... but letting people yust piss on youre head isnt the way to go either :)

i been alliedganked before yeah, so what did i do ? get sweet revenge ffcourse !

if ya cant take on (or infiltrate) a group then start focussing on a single person till he/she gives up, then pick out youre next victim ... this game can take a while tough .. not talking in hours or days or a kill here lol, thinking in months here :P but never forget: last laugh is best laugh !

when ya got pushed with youre back against the wall .. what do you do ?

START KICKING FFCOURSE :D