View Full Version : Do you still enjoy playing Neocron?
Hi,
First of all, i would like to mention that i don't play in neocron since month ago, i don't have payed account and i more miss the people then the game itself. I would like to know your opinion about Neocron of today, if you still have fun from playing or you just play because it's a habit or maybe you don't want to leave your Clan. Same bugs from neocron1, no cool add on's - it's not the thing that Neocron2:BDoY should be, the thing we waited for so long. IMHO it's boring to come back to this game, i wait for the eurpean WOW. In the time when it will be released in europe I will propably forgot about Neocron, because WOW is a game from the higher hights, it's a game from the qualified people with great ideas, and those ideas are reality instead of the promises about their releasing (not as in KK)
We waited for:
*Apartament furniture
*Player vendors
*WoC skills \ items
What do we got ?
*Apartament furniture
*Shitty graphic engine
*Unfinished WoC system [after long time of waiting]
*Many promises, which will never be made
*Problems with c2p..
Now you can slap me :rolleyes:
i play, cause theres no other game like neocron
and cause of my clan.
i play, cause theres no other game like neocron
.
x2....
Hell-demon
29-12-04, 01:01
I have to agree the game has become quite dissapointing :mad:
With nc2 all we got was bugs, faulty content, unfinshed maps and lack of server stability. To top it all off the new strippers are'nt that good either :(
Im enjoying it a lot at the moment again. Had a break after the saturn disaster at the end of NC1 now im back enjoying it. And why would anyone play a game they did not enjoy o_O
Hello Heroine, Long time no see.
I activated my account about a month ago simply because i missed all the
people in FF. I'm not playing much nowdays, the game is barely alive, and
if nothing is done soon it will soon be on it's last breath.
Basicly the game has turned into an expensive chat client to me. I log on for
5 minutes, chat a bit, fight some stupid-ass-got-no-balls droner at cycrow and
then log off. It's been like that for the past week and I can't see myself
reactivating again after my period is out. I might do it once I start missing the
crowd again, but it will definetly not be because of the game itself.
As in so, so, so many other cases, it's not the game itself that is keeping me
here, it is the people I have got to know, now, dont get me wrong, this is one
of the best games out there, and there will probably never be anything to
match it, but I just can't take it anymore for several reasons I'm not about
to mention here & hijack your thread over.
So to answer your question and get to the point I would have to say; No.
I dont enjoy the game anymore, not in the way I used to. I've been here
since NC1 Beta4 and have had loads of fun playing this game, but the curve
has gone downhill ever since a few months into NC1 retail. What I do enjoy,
as I said above, are the people that have kept me here for so long, and still
do.
GL In whatever you do man.
- Primate
Well, NC can be fun.. but its dominated by bordem.. 90% of the time I sit round doing jack.. no one to kill etc.
PS not voting on the poll simply because its too vague ;)
Obsidian X
29-12-04, 01:20
Well, NC can be fun.. but its dominated by bordem.. 90% of the time I sit round doing jack.. no one to kill etc.
PS not voting on the poll simply because its too vague ;)
Agree with Asc, its also somewhat biased.
I play on the forums, I r PK teh mods!!!111 *coff*
Agree with Asc, its also somewhat biased.
exactly.. You may find it fun (sometimes) and think it sux :p
x2....x3
I play less and less all the time though. Mainly because there is nothing new to do and >90% of the old things that I would have enjoyed have been wrecked by poor design decisions and/or chronic mismanagement.
Last night I was messing about on Saturn and was shocked at how much better NC1 was than NC2 even with a totally monged DB and 3 people online.
i play, cause theres no other game like neocron
and cause of my clan.
What he said, KK is lucky there is no compitision because if someone comes along and makes an improvment on NC, it'll go down the pan very fast, I already have an idea for an Uber NC, since all i do all day long is dream of RPG's/play rpgs/design and create ideas for rpgs. etc etc etc yack yack yack....
So yeah I play cos there is only ONE Neocron, and i think thats why although loads of ppl complain, they play and come back to NC, because there is no other game like it.
NC is unique...
jernau
"Dome of York...will be available in Q1/2003 and it will be available as a FREE download"
"CombatMechs are still a little down the road, but we'll get there after the first months of the storyline"
"The next 7 Epic runs will follow during November" (2002)
"If you've multiple accounts, then you will only need to pay once for NC:BDOY and not multiple times"
"there definitely won't be a char wipe"
^^ I think Martin J. Schwiezer shouldn't have been so optimistic about what he believed he could offer, though I agree missing out on all that is a disappointment, we have no idea what went on behind the seens would be nice to go on a "day trip" to Reakktor and find out why all that stuff never happend dont ya think?
Obsidian X
29-12-04, 02:04
Last night I was messing about on Saturn and was shocked at how much better NC1 was than NC2 even with a totally monged DB and 3 people online.
Do you still have an active NC1 account, or can anyone with a NC2 acct log onto the old servers? I'd love to take a quick trip down memory lane while Terra is fubared.
I still play but only because of the people on there, and its addictive. But its getting boring :( KK havnt given us any good updates in ages, the problems on Terra are bad, I cant make a rifle spy which is my favourite character.
Ive played every character accept for people like Rifle tanks, APU PE's you know the ones which dont do shit in the end, and my favourite was the rifle spy, and I cant make it because MC5 is utterly fucked for me.
I still enjoy neocron, but no where near as much as i have in the past, in simplest there are no othe games out there like NC, cept PE, but thats just plain shit....
Asurmen Spec Op
29-12-04, 02:24
hell ya
bugs arent as bad as I hear from you people
I have more then enough fun
only game with real pvp
wow is the biggest sack of bullshit if ya play it your a idiot
Do you still have an active NC1 account, or can anyone with a NC2 acct log onto the old servers? I'd love to take a quick trip down memory lane while Terra is fubared.
if you EVER had a NC1 account that is now a NC2 account you can play, i was gunna but problem is everyone (ie 4 people) play Saturn, and all my shits on uranus
Obsidian X
29-12-04, 02:47
if you EVER had a NC1 account that is now a NC2 account you can play, i was gunna but problem is everyone (ie 4 people) play Saturn, and all my shits on uranus
Lol, I'm on Saturn now, all my chars are loaded with the shit I found during the many Saturn rare drops on the last day! *sniff*
yeah I logged into nc1 last few days since i cant play on terra. had some good fights in NF with some people that still play there because they cant get C2P to work. Funny to go back and see TG chillin in plaza 1 :)
Join the revive 'saturn' movement ;)
Im sure it could happen if enough people knew :)
yeah, this game has become more tedious than enjoyable. I find myself on a nightly basis taking inventory of all my items to see what I could get for account on ebay. That's sad. And it is true, there are no other games like NC.....yet. When Twilight War comes out, I am so outta here, (if not much sooner) :(
wow is the biggest sack of bullshit if ya play it your a idiot
Call me idiot then, i don't care.. i'm having more fun in wow than in neocron at the moment so..
:(
Asurmen Spec Op
29-12-04, 03:08
Call me idiot then, i don't care.. i'm having more fun in wow than in neocron at the moment so..
:( ok
Idiot
QuantumDelta
29-12-04, 03:12
Asurmen, if you're really feeling like that.
Why are you still on this forum?
I'm actually asking seriously, not having a bite.
Heroine:
I fall in the bottom catagory (cept I did actually login on the 26th had a chat with a few peeps going "OMG ITS QD?!" and finally found my clan mates... other than that it was like.....november sometime...... but I didn't logon to do anything...)
The game, as great as it is, and as unique as it is, falls critically victim to the problems Jernau describes.
And yea...I'm thinking about going back to /NC1/ myself....
Do you still have an active NC1 account, or can anyone with a NC2 acct log onto the old servers? I'd love to take a quick trip down memory lane while Terra is fubared.
No need for a new account. If your account was live when the servers went down it's live now from what I can see. The user DB hasn't been updated so even expired accounts work.
You need to use your old NC1 username and password.
@Xheo - There are many times I'd have loved to be a fly on certain walls.
No need for a new account. If your account was live when the servers went down it's live now from what I can see. The user DB hasn't been updated so even expired accounts work.
You need to use your old NC1 username and password.
@Xheo - There are many times I'd have loved to be a fly on certain walls.
WHAT?!?! well shit...*looks for his NC1 disks and prays it patches after install*
WHAT?!?! well shit...*looks for his NC1 disks and prays it patches after install*
If not I'm sure the patches can be shared by someone - I'd do it but my up-channel is choked atm,
Obsidian X
29-12-04, 03:23
WHAT?!?! well shit...*looks for his NC1 disks and prays it patches after install*
Yep it works m8, I'm on Saturn now, hacking belts and looking with nostalgia over backpacks of fallen comorades :p
Edit: Patching works ok :D
Such a shame, only reason i'm playing this game is because of a RL buddy who keeps me hanging on with a thread.
Problem is I've been there, done that blah blah. The game is great when your a noob, but 2 years of play does tend to get boring, I have no idea what im gonna start playing but im on the verge of quitting myself.
I just wish KK could start adding lots more content and advertise more, 250-300 people at peak times (correct me if im wrong please!!) is not my idea of an MMO.
Anyway I'm not gonna bother going into what needs adding as so many people have done this already :)
If not I'm sure the patches can be shared by someone - I'd do it but my up-channel is choked atm,
I knew i shoulda put those things on a backup disk...hell i had NC1 installed for months till i finally reformatted my hdd, didn't think you could get on it anymore
StealthyAssassi
29-12-04, 03:25
Im bored atm with the terra situation... World of Warcraft is out there waiting for me and I cant resist much longer!
Yep it works m8, I'm on Saturn now, hacking belts and looking with nostalgia over backpacks of fallen comorades :p
Edit: Patching works ok :D
Freaking awesome, I'll be reinstalling it and playing tomorrow then, got to spend time with the kids atm, I'll be back on uranus tomorrow weeee
then again, why would you want to revive saturn :p only kiddin :D
I just wish that there were more people.
The Dome seems like a ghost town, or are they all out fighting City Admin?
However, I still play NC almost every other day, at least for 30 mins each time although its more like four hours.
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I just wish that there were more people.
The Dome seems like a ghost town, or are they all out fighting City Admin?
My point exactly, not enough people at peak times... terra is almost starting to feel like pluto in nc 1 :(
My point exactly, not enough people at peak times... terra is almost starting to feel like pluto in nc 1 :(
Pluto's population + Saturn's stability != good. :(
i play, cause theres no other game like neocron
and cause of my clan.
exactly
Latent Entropy
29-12-04, 04:01
I was playing Neocron2 everyday after i reactivated my account right upto the point where the terra server just gave up and died, but i find neocron slowly grinds you down.
I think if another game like Neocron came along, imo things would start getting done alot quicker, as KK wouldnt want to lose out to there main rival.
Neocron is a great game and all, dont get me wrong, but one of the reasons for me staying is because of my clan and my friends in Neocron.
i might see if i can scrape together some gear on NC1...tho Mk is still low tech rifles, and i much prefer High Tech pistols, but alas, i am SA less on NC1 :p
I'm glad I took some time off. I'm glad I'm back. I'm having fun again.
I really don't want to hear about Neocron's crappy graphics engine. Yeah, there are better, but there are much worse that are still making money. I reinstalled AO to fiddle with the free account thing until they sort out Terra server, and the very first thing that struck me was how much Anarchy Online's graphics engine sucks. I've tried playing both games on medium graphics settings. In Neocron, I get about 20 to 40 FPS. In AO, until I set it down to the lowest graphics settings, so low that shop signs are illegible and half the graphics in the game are washed out and grainy, I was getting about 1 to 4 FPS - and this despite the fact that polygon counts are much, much lower and combat animations much jerkier in AO. Neocron's graphic engine is just fine, thank you.
Yeah I thought Neocron graphics were bad until I loaded up AO the first time :D I am definitly an advocate of gameplay > graphics (hell I play neocron) but I was almost ready to shut it off. I ended up shutting it off anyway due to the gameplay being so shit. No graphics, no gameplay = why play?
Anyways, I do enjoy playing Neocron, but only when theres not an imminent rollback (aka "fix") looming over my head.
I don't mind the population myself. Right now I am angry with the KK staff over the "do nothing" approach to fixing Terra ;) But im starting to feel better so I may change my position on that, in such a case I would hope the population increases to a point where (especially being international server) the population stays the same all the time (300+ being ideal for me).
Remember 700 people online in open beta, that was great. Everywhere I went in neocron was lively.
if nc1 was to continue as it was i would reinstall it ,even it it meant starting from scratch
nc2 = major bollox
this is my opinion,if you like nc2 as is good luck,personally cant be assed with the community now as i am fed up of gank the tradeskiller in p1 cron, yeah i know i could lom and put an le in but why should i??? i am /was offering a service to those who needed good weapons ,i had the full gamut of tradeskillers so i could do the whole job for you.
now why bother??
I was sorta enjoying coming back to NC, until all these current problems. These problems led me on to a proper trawl thru these forums, to see how things have been recently. So I've read all about the last nightmarish days of Saturn, and the sequence of rollbacks on Terra. Anyway... ppl who know me know that whereas I have occasionally bitched about players, I've rarely bitched that much about the game or the service from KK. But now, I just can't take KK seriously at all. There seems to be a dreamworld like state that has descended on their offices, and it's all to do with the 'this is probably all the result of reduced capacity' line. I'm leaving because I think they actually believe that. Even if it does fly in the face of previous experiences, and, well, logic.
Databases are my thing, I'm a systems designer, and have been working in IT for eighteen years, recently specialising in the data warehouse and knowledge management fields (big things, terabytes of stuff). Big clients, small clients, the gamut. When it comes to NC I don't know the code, I don't know the entity model (though I do know it has no item tracking), I do know the platform (mySQL, so we've been told). This means I cannot begin to say I know what the problem is. But I can say, because I have a grasp of logic and because of my own experiments with new characters created since the problems started, characters which havent manifested any of the hairdo, bad pant and top coordination, that it's got fuck all to do with reduced capacity unless the way the DB is spread over the cluster is replicated extremely poorly. Can you even distribute mysql over a cluster properly anyway ? I dunno, only used it briefly and it's not even ANSI SQL compliant, and it has none of the features I'd demand for a large scale application. Any MySQL bods out there know if it can replicate/distribute data/transactions like a grown up DB ?
ANYWAY, I'm digressing. The point is, this is data corruption, and as it's happened b4 I'm guessing that the problem is the same as it was last time, but they couldn't find it, so they rolled back to when it all seemed cool and hoped it wouldnt happen again. But it has. OR..... was it 'reduced capacity' the last time. I mean r they saying that when the servers came out of the cluster, they took an ickle bit of the DB offline with them and what we're seeing is the app doing a grab of what it can when it queries to the table(s) that handle outfits ? As in, it can't find it, the fields just end up with whatever snuff is hanging about in the destination address space being put into them. Anyone of the myriad possible reasons I can dream up here sitting without all the facts frankly horrify me. It points to a lack of thought, contingency planning in the app and the DB. A lack of exception handling, to simplify it horribly.
Also, Item tracking. Yep, it makes sense that if they r moving the DB to another platform (SQLServer I think they said) that they would add that then. It will involve redesigning the DB, and changing every call the appcode does to it. It would also mean a dramatic increase in the size of the DB (think it through if you disagree with me, you'll get there, it will mean a huge increase in the amount of data stored). They said this would happen with NC2. It didn't. Well actually, that doesnt bother me. What does is the official reason given for not adding item tracking yet which was 'there are still some problems with it'. Oh FFS! come clean, the problem is they havent done an ounce of real work in implementing it. I wouldn't do anything more myself than scrawl out a new ERD and explain the new call changes to the devs until the new DB platform was in place. SO tell us that. Cut the crap.
In my worst nightmares, I think that all of this whacky outfit crap is probably the result of a single missing field or record seperator in one of our characters. Oh the horror. Anyway, I'm quitting, again. Say what you like about AO, at least I've got more options there, and a lot less oh dear.. oh no.. oh.. really ? But then if I wanted a good RPG I'd get out the paper and the dice, and if I want uber graphics and an adrenalin rush I break out Half-life2, Far cry etc, etc. AO is a nice medium for me, RPG first, graphics well.. meh..
I still enjoy it somewhat, but nowhere near as much as I enjoyed nc1 :( Bring back the old spell animations and models :D
only thing abhout NC1 is i loose my Camo PE PA :(
;)
steweygrrr
29-12-04, 12:47
Most of my clan play pretty much daily but I'm finding it hard to get any enjoyment from it at all. Theres too much infighting in the factions, too much ally killing, too many bugs that have gone unfixed from far too long (some that even carried over from NC1 for chrissakes, if the engine is that buggy why was it even published?) and no sense of community.
Until these have been fixed I'm gonna stick with SWG because at the moment its 10 times better than Neocron ever will be in it's current state. The game has potential and it's sad to see it wasted.
only thing abhout NC1 is i loose my Camo PE PA :(
;)
Yeah but i would have not lost my "so many" epic chips :rolleyes: And none of my pe's used pa anyway ;)
yeah i suppose i would have rather have not lost my epics than gain camo pepa...and back in NC1 MkV was low tech rifles using titan instead of PA...but then again ive gotten back to pretty much where i was on the Epic scene, but id also loose my MC5s :p
I'm so lazy though, after doing the epics for all my characters already once before, I just have no motivation to do them again :lol: That and 3 of my characters who need moveons/ppr's are anticity, and well, the last time I went from Doy to Neocron. Kinda took me like 2 weeks, with a lot of cs inbetween.
darkservent
29-12-04, 15:09
Oh well, Im not playing, Its boring and have no reason to let it hinder my ongoing job hunt. So Ill just leave my C2P status as it is i.e Borked. Dont pay jack and still post on forums.
KK give me a reason to sort my C2P out.
Hmm. i tried NC1 again a couple of weeks ago. Did a fresh install, it seemed to patch ok up to patch 160, then it insisted on downloading patch 160 even though it was still saved in the patch directory. After every attempt at downloading this patch, it just shut down with the old "has encoutered a problem and had to close".
Bye Bye NC1. *sniff*
Hmm. i tried NC1 again a couple of weeks ago. Did a fresh install, it seemed to patch ok up to patch 160, then it insisted on downloading patch 160 even though it was still saved in the patch directory. After every attempt at downloading this patch, it just shut down with the old "has encoutered a problem and had to close".
Bye Bye NC1. *sniff*
nub :p
Just delete 159
nub :p
Just delete 159
Or better yet install the "US Launcher" first and avoid most of the other screw-ups as well. ;)
Hmm. i tried NC1 again a couple of weeks ago. Did a fresh install, it seemed to patch ok up to patch 160, then it insisted on downloading patch 160 even though it was still saved in the patch directory. After every attempt at downloading this patch, it just shut down with the old "has encoutered a problem and had to close".
Bye Bye NC1. *sniff*
Download the new updated launcher (http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=32670) and your problems will be fixed.
No need for a new account. If your account was live when the servers went down it's live now from what I can see. The user DB hasn't been updated so even expired accounts work.
You need to use your old NC1 username and password.
Yes this is true, was confirmed by some of my clanmates quite a while ago. Any Neocron 1 vet can still play Neocron 1... for free. Whether you currently have an active account or not.
I'm actually considering playing again, strictly on Pluto or Saturn and starting a REAL roleplaying game... As in a campaign. Others could join in, and it would be ran like a p&p game in the sense that it would have a plotline written out and people would have to participate 100% in character. The fact that the server is being used for nothing else at the time means its a perfect world just waiting for roleplayers to come and take it over.
I'm actually considering playing again, strictly on Pluto or Saturn and starting a REAL roleplaying game... As in a campaign. Others could join in, and it would be ran like a p&p game in the sense that it would have a plotline written out and people would have to participate 100% in character. The fact that the server is being used for nothing else at the time means its a perfect world just waiting for roleplayers to come and take it over.
now THAT is something i'd be interested in
Asurmen Spec Op
29-12-04, 20:23
now THAT is something i'd be interested in me too
especially on a server were we dont have charecters
would probly need a GM tho....
would probly need a GM tho....
If you mean with special abilities I don't see why.
If people want to play they just have to agree the rules then appoint a GM for story-related stuff.
I'd probably join in too if someone did this.
well if you wanted certain mobs spawned at certain points is all i meant, or items...but most items can be found on some one's account and given to the appointed GM
well if you wanted certain mobs spawned at certain points is all i meant, or items...but most items can be found on some one's account and given to the appointed GM
I guess. Just have to avoid needing that then :).
While always nice, I do not think GM intervention would be required. While we couldn't create new spawns, almost every mob is at their given spawn point seeing as how NOONE is hunting them. It just means that the roleplaying game will require movement throughout the world to occur. And with every rp game there usually is some adventuring involved.
Honestly at this point, I'm left with two options. I leave, and I mean leave this community behind forever in all matter of speaking, or I do this and help organize what could turn out being one of the most enjoyable RP experiences in years.
Rant/Vent/Explaination time. I started playing Neocron during the last beta prior to NC 1 release. I found it enjoyable and fell in love with a lot of the factions and their stories. After having a Tangent character for quite a long time I created a Tsunami and never turned back. Since that day, over 2 years ago, I have been trying to become a Tsunami Faction Counsellor and then with the revelations of NC2 a DoY Ceres Project Leader. I have two decades of experience in roleplaying including many paper & pencil, crpg, and mmorpg; both as a gamemaster and a player. I've programmed, mapped, modelled, and textured my own crpg standalone games and fps mods. I ran player ran events in Neocron, many of which you know of from the Sync Into Neocron Radio (SINR) events, such as the D.J. Dreek performances at the Twister. I ran an rp clan, where all of the members took upon rp specific names and stayed in character at all times. That being said...
I have never received a rejection or acceptance letter from any of my applications to the FC, FCA, and CP roleplaying projects. Here I sit, someone interested and willing to dedicate my time, not to play to better my character, but to write and put forth quality roleplaying in an attempt to draw other runners into the joy of roleplaying. To improve Neocron. To give credibility to its storyline. To give life to its factions. To make the game have more depth than a bullet wound.
Neocron does not lack a number of people willing to help out on these roleplaying projects, yet from what I can see it does lack the willingness to let these people help out even after such projects as the Ceres Project is conceived of. I have grown tired of asking to help out.
New Years Eve I will make my decision. If by then my offer at helping in the Ceres Project is still left unanswered I will either start creating my own project, to be ran on Pluto, or if I feel there is not enough interest, that it would be a waste of my time, I will disappear and never read these forums again.
Might be cool if we could reset all the OP GRs on the old servers.
Make a 3-hacker clan and take them all, set to allow all and then delete the clan.
I'm finding it really hard to muster the interest to play, especially with the unkown situation of Terra. We all know the failures in this game and the way its been managed, its just sad when you start to see the posts and dicussions dry up, which is whats happened in the last month or so.
What you have now is a game that is a shadow of Neocron 1, I guess back then we didn't know how good we had it, as its only got worse. The game actually feels older now than Neocron 1 was, its just as buggy, unstable, and on top of this the network update speed is slower, graphics are worse, and no new features of worth have been added.
I am sticking around to see if KK come back after xmas and make some progress, and convince me they don't see Terra as an extended beta before Europe retail. But at the end of the day, WoW has upped the ante for MMORPGs and come February this game needs to have evovled fast or the population will be in the tens rather than hundreds. Here's a start:
- Fix Terra, fast.
- Get a story going, with in-game event related to it.
- Shake things up a bit, add safezones/dangerzones, sort the Mercs.
- Let the community start to mod and design for you again.
- Bring up the test server and finally start to attack item tracking and player shops.
- Change the Faction / Soulight / Op war rules, even if its wrong, its something new.
KK need to do something, and very soon.
Jesterthegreat
29-12-04, 22:26
i play, cause theres no other game like neocron
and cause of my clan.
yup...
i play for the pvp, rest of the game bores me.
i play for my clan and the people i know, everyone else randomly flames me / us
yeah, that's the main reason why the worry of a rollback hasnt bothered me, ive dont nothing permanent, just PvP, Capped PE, Capped Tank, all the gear i need, im not loosing anything....just killing people....and im not in any clans cept skulls, and i'm the only active skull atm....so meh :p
Dribble Joy
29-12-04, 23:56
Re. The question: Yes.
and im not in any clans cept skulls, and i'm the only active skull atm....so meh :p
I'm back in a few days, damn dial up, uni and crimbo drunkenness.
This allways tends to happen, I go away, even for a week or less and people stop playing in skulls... which is wierd, I'm hardly the most interesting and dynamic person in it, and a shite leader to boot. O_o
Im playing wow... havent loged into nc for weeks dont think i will
still keeping one account just in case but....
Asurmen Spec Op
30-12-04, 01:05
Im playing wow... havent loged into nc for weeks dont think i will
still keeping one account just in case but.... yay another ppu gone(to many to go :( )
8 leaving threads on the 1st page.. thats a new record if im not mistaken?
8 leaving threads on the 1st page.. thats a new record if im not mistaken?
8 now?
I was thinking that when it got to 5 (and then again at 6).
Actually I think it's been more before but only when whole clans have left - this batch looks a lot worse to me. No doubt KK still think they'll all be back though and that there's no possible way it could be their fault. :rolleyes:
Gunner_turret
30-12-04, 02:58
I still play, it is boring with 2% to 10% being on terra because there all worried about rollbacks, we need more people on to kick the crap outta those FA that think they own p2
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NC2 needs something cool, like instead of xmas trees, we need WBs in all plazas and via rosso with santa hats on saying "Merry christmas neocron!" and an evil laugh to go with it, and things like on easter, Egg granades! rare event items like a 40 ton PSI brick spell!
EDIT:
I want the tank jacket with RIP on the back again!
Im playing wow... havent loged into nc for weeks dont think i will
still keeping one account just in case but....
Deac you gonna move to EU servers after retail? cmooon, come here =)
I still play, it is boring with 2% to 10% being on terra because there all worried about rollbacks, we need more people on to kick the crap outta those FA that think they own p2
*waves* Erro! :p
hehe - I R shooted you yesterday :P
Im playing wow... havent loged into nc for weeks dont think i will
still keeping one account just in case but....
more and more of us seem to be.
I started playing wow when the green pe bug came back (which is STILL there) and it wont be easy for nc to pull me back..
maybe kk staff is playing wow too and thats why they dont fix anything
8 leaving threads on the 1st page.. thats a new record if im not mistaken?
I think thats mainly due to the inactivity of the forums now (the 8 on the first page record not the amount of leaving threads)
Do I still enjoy playing Neocron? I would not know having not played it for months. Just watching and waiting. The english release is where my hope rests. Otherwise RIP english community.
trigger hurt
30-12-04, 19:00
more and more of us seem to be.
I started playing wow when the green pe bug came back (which is STILL there) and it wont be easy for nc to pull me back..
I'd just like to point out that this guy right here...he's one of the only people I know of that started necron after DoY. As far as I remember, he never played NC1. What he knew of the bugs was only what people told him. And you see what's happening? He's not playing, most likely never will again. And it's not because of the community. It's because of KK. Plain. Simple.
maybe kk staff is playing wow too and thats why they dont fix anything
*Beats him with his longer experience*
Believe me - they didn't fix too much before WoW either dude :p
The english release is where my hope rests. Otherwise RIP english community.
Same here... If the english/us release doesnt boost the eng community i'm
leaving for sure. Somehow it feels like chasing the carrot though, if you know
what i mean.
http://previews.nvtech.com/75/tf05103/NVTech_peop3088.jpg
Sorry, couldnt find a larger image :-) You get the point though.
- Primate
Somehow it feels like chasing the carrot though, if you know
what i mean.
Soon enough though, everyone will notice the 3 course meals which are around and stray from the carrot.
Not sure about myself since i've watched the player base steadily decline over the months i've been playing. saw alot of friends leave when WOW went public, not my type of game so won't play it. I do agree with others in the forum that the game is very good in concept but still seems to be in a beta stage. no sign of when the promised shops will open. just standing there and the game fatels is annoying at best and the ever so popular walking along and suddenly i sync and find myself on someones doorstep just makes me laugh that a bug like that should be pretty easy to track down has been around for how many years? i'd be willing to pass up on this theme week stuff if it would free up programers to clean up beta bugs lol. basically the game needs better advertising to bring in new players and alot of bug fixes so they don't get aggrivated and leave. did talk to a newbie that was trying the game out, he wasn't happy at all when he showed up at my apt door. haven't seen him around lately...hmmm... i'll stay around for a while to see if anything changes. that is soon as we can get the issue solved where now i can't log in without fateling every time lol
Asurmen Spec Op
31-12-04, 06:04
Not sure about myself since i've watched the player base steadily decline over the months i've been playing. saw alot of friends leave when WOW went public, not my type of game so won't play it. I do agree with others in the forum that the game is very good in concept but still seems to be in a beta stage. no sign of when the promised shops will open. just standing there and the game fatels is annoying at best and the ever so popular walking along and suddenly i sync and find myself on someones doorstep just makes me laugh that a bug like that should be pretty easy to track down has been around for how many years? i'd be willing to pass up on this theme week stuff if it would free up programers to clean up beta bugs lol. basically the game needs better advertising to bring in new players and alot of bug fixes so they don't get aggrivated and leave. did talk to a newbie that was trying the game out, he wasn't happy at all when he showed up at my apt door. haven't seen him around lately...hmmm... i'll stay around for a while to see if anything changes. that is soon as we can get the issue solved where now i can't log in without fateling every time lol 1: paragraphs
2: whats so damn special about player shops? cuz your lazy
1: paragraphsIgnorance...
2: whats so damn special about player shops? cuz your lazyBecause its a feature, that was promised as one of the main features for NC2, with the current playerbase, and the way certain fairly standard items are only available at 1 faction, player shops would make it alot fuckin easier, also making running your own construction/research business easier and more fun.
Why have that attitude of 'OMG WHY DO YOU WANT CONTENT SO MUCH'... Content is what makes a game and fills a game, keeping everyones attention.
Asurmen Spec Op
31-12-04, 08:29
Ignorance...
Because its a feature, that was promised as one of the main features for NC2, with the current playerbase, and the way certain fairly standard items are only available at 1 faction, player shops would make it alot fuckin easier, also making running your own construction/research business easier and more fun.
Why have that attitude of 'OMG WHY DO YOU WANT CONTENT SO MUCH'... Content is what makes a game and fills a game, keeping everyones attention. Ignorance? sorry I have bad eyes.
I didnt say why do you want content
I said why do you want playersops. I think there are alot of other things that are alot more important to implement that some shops
trigger hurt
31-12-04, 08:34
Ignorance? sorry I have bad eyes.
I didnt say why do you want content
I said why do you want playersops. I think there are alot of other things that are alot more important to implement that some shops
I think implementing a feature that was promised for almost a year and was sworn to be in game at the time of release is very important. If they set a goal to be reached within a years time and did not meet it...what does that mean for future goals? Means they might not meet them.
Look at hacknet. Hack net is a feature that was explained to us 2 years ago during the beta 4 period. We were told it would be in NC1, eventually. It never came. It showed up in NC2...but it still doesn't work right. Mobs do too much damage, databases are not finished or are bugged so you cannot get the faction items from them. Right now, the only reason to use hacknet is a) you need to take the last security level of an outpost or b) you want to go to a gr that is locked, for no gr fee and no si.
Asurmen Spec Op
31-12-04, 08:35
I think implementing a feature that was promised for almost a year and was sworn to be in game at the time of release is very important. If they set a goal to be reached within a years time and did not meet it...what does that mean for future goals? Means they might not meet them.
Look at hacknet. Hack net is a feature that was explained to us 2 years ago during the beta 4 period. We were told it would be in NC1, eventually. It never came. It showed up in NC2...but it still doesn't work right. Mobs do too much damage, databases are not finished or are bugged so you cannot get the faction items from them. Right now, the only reason to use hacknet is a) you need to take the last security level of an outpost or b) you want to go to a gr that is locked, for no gr fee and no si. acually if I remeber right the hacknet now wasnt the hacknet that was orriginally planned.
I know its important for KK to get out the things theyve promised but I really dont see playershops as a important item
Jesterthegreat
31-12-04, 09:36
I know its important for KK to get out the things theyve promised but I really dont see playershops as a important item
agreed... theres loads more i would rather see done than player shops
acually if I remeber right the hacknet now wasnt the hacknet that was orriginally planned.
I know its important for KK to get out the things theyve promised but I really dont see playershops as a important item
You may not see it is important, but I'm sure alot of other people do. Those who have been waiting for it since it was promised by kk, even those who play during off-peak times where it can be next to impossible to find tradskillers. And as other people have said, the new item-distribution isn't working very well cause it depends on player trading, and failing that, player shops.
personally i will not even log atm till terra is fixed
and i got all the tradeskillers,but standing in p1 = suicide and spamming ally channel a waste of time.
now if tech haven was worth it i would be there,but atm populations to low to make it viable.
player shops was one the reasons i up graded and keep 2 acounts up atm,soon to be one as soon a terra sorted.
have play sent the 23 of dec :(
I still enjoy playing NC manly cause of my mates in game well those that are left over that is.
tho to be honest the frustration of bug and missing or badly implemented features did some serious catching up.
Deac you gonna move to EU servers after retail? cmooon, come here =)
yes i will.... njord zane alin aladin will all play soo i guess i need to get a euro account too :O
the old hud + fonts, the old moddels + open belt drop = nc win !
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