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So... how we doin'? May i please have my content patch so i have a reason to login? PLEASE!!! :rolleyes:
So... how we doin'? May i please have my content patch so i have a reason to login? PLEASE!!! :rolleyes:
maybe thursday :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dribble Joy
20-12-04, 18:48
Ho-hum.
I knew someone would say this.
Given Ratboy's initial statement;
as we don't know yet which things will be ready to be patched in on monday due to the illness of some of our staff.
They could actually not patch at all today.
Also, there is still plenty of today left, even in Germany.
I am ashamed of you lot, I fully expected an 'ONOZ, where is meh patch!!!!' thread at 1 minute past midnight this morning, it took you nearly 17 hours.
Bad show.
well dj... some of us have jobs, and I did want them to have a chance @ patching today. I'm not trying to slam, just want the patch if its ready, and want to know when, if its not. (a why wouldnt hurt either)
Why do they patch at 5/6 when they're going home so they can't work out any problems?
As DJ quoted there isnt definitely going to be a patch today, and in reality they would deploy when the patch is ready to be deployed, not before not after.
I bet its gonna be on the 23rd. The patch will completely screw up neocron. Even more than that bloody implant bug they ignored for more than 3 weeks now.
And then theyre off for christmas and we are fucked.
:mad:
it will most likly be a new years patch 8|
Asurmen Spec Op
20-12-04, 19:37
it will most likly be a new years patch 8|
hello captain optomistic
Please... give us our patch today. :(
A lot of people haven't been playing because they're waiting for the content patch... even though it sounds like there won't really be any "content" at all:
The Boss Mob won't be implemented until January. The Boss mob drops one of the parts for those new shotguns you guys have been working on. So... we can't fight the mob, or build the weapons. Anyone else see a problem with that? :(
maybe implement it so that part drops rarely from another mob until they put in the big mofo...
Yes patch is delayed as it's still under internal testing. Hopefully it'll hit retail tomorrow.
The Boss Mob won't be implemented until January. The Boss mob drops one of the parts for those new shotguns you guys have been working on. So... we can't fight the mob, or build the weapons. Anyone else see a problem with that? :(
I do..
The new rare weapons are a two edged sword (no, that doesn't mean that you get two edged swords ;) ): We will patch them in, but they won't be constructable untill the bossmob works. But we will try to distribute some of them via events.
hang on...MORE melee rares :p
hehe
Yes patch is delayed as it's still under internal testing. Hopefully it'll hit retail tomorrow.
Hmmm what you guys do between thursday patch day and today ? three days to test if it worked But hey after all this time playing this crap is to be expected from KK. It would have to be tommorow anyway that gives you 2 days of work if even before you hit your holidays.
Whats with the other hacknet weapons, i hope melee rares aren't the only ones being patched in. The ones on the theme week like the cannon and the pistols would also be good to go in. Also stuff like HC eye 3 which was suppose to be in two patches ago what about that ?
they were working on exploits i think you'll find....i THINK http://neocron.jafc.de/images/smilies/old/wink.gif
Hmmm what you guys do between thursday patch day and today ? three days to test if it worked But hey after all this time playing this crap is to be expected from KK. It would have to be tommorow anyway that gives you 2 days of work if even before you hit your holidays.
Whats with the other hacknet weapons, i hope melee rares aren't the only ones being patched in. The ones on the theme week like the cannon and the pistols would also be good to go in. Also stuff like HC eye 3 which was suppose to be in two patches ago what about that ?
Ratboy was using the Doubled Edged Sword as a metaphore. "The weapons will be patched in" (edge 1), " but they won't be constructable untill the bossmob works." (edge 2).
Heavy-Combateye 3 is in next patch.
Hmmm what you guys do between thursday patch day and today ? three days to test if it worked But hey after all this time playing this crap is to be expected from KK.
To be fair, if it doesn't work I would perfer they fix it first before introduceing more broken crap. Ya know things do sometimes need to be fix properly before introduced...three days as you say isn't bad at all. (not counting the blah blah blah features with release stuff ppl will say in reply)
Do YOU want them to give us more broken shit?..wait, dont care what you want. :lol:
Ratboy was using the Doubled Edged Sword as a metaphore. "The weapons will be patched in" (edge 1), " but they won't be constructable untill the bossmob works." (edge 2).
Heavy-Combateye 3 is in next patch.
Yes well drunken Irish men dont understand said methaphors. BTW any new hacknet spells cause no offencse to the hacknet hackers but the phoenix cpu looks like "The Beast".
Oh and Genji. As Nvidia said its boring atm people been waiting on this patch for some new content. I might actually need to lom a bit more into hack to get the parts to the new weapons.
We really need this content patch to fill our bitching mouths....
Give us playershops *mumbles*.....
Dr Strange
21-12-04, 00:14
Well it's Monday
It's after 11 p.m. on Monday in Germany, after 5 p.m. EST in America.... and yet no patch.
Flashing back to the late theme week information release that was promised on a specific day yet came days later....
So where the hell is our content patch?
Lupus... please don't tell me we're going to have another Terminator Fiasco because of this? That sucked so much. :(
Think you could possibly post the patch notes you guys are looking at today, with a
*NOTES SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE*
at the top so we can't castrate you guys if something doesn't show up? :p
I know, at least for me, that a showing of the possible patch notes would be more than enough to satisfy my thirst until tomorrow. It would be greatly appreciated by the entire community, I think.
Threads merged.
Please keep any patch chat in this thread.
Dr Strange
21-12-04, 00:40
Lupus, you're one kick ass guy, one of the nicer KK employee's. All respect to ya.
With that said; where the fuck do yall get off breaking ANOTHER FUCKING PROMISE of a patch on MONDAY?
Now see, I got/getting a new video card for the holidays, just to better play Neocron. When you and your company bends us over and fucks us in the ass with these promises, you're making me want to keep the recipt, take the card back, and cancel my fucking account. That's 2 broken promises in one month, 2.
Sure, some of yall got sick. You are a business. If you cannot produce results ON THE DAY YOU PROMISED THEM, then don't give a day. Do not tell us Monday, then come out with a patch on Tuesday, or Wednesday. If you say Monday for Patch X, I am paying you as a customer for a Patch on Monday, I'm not paying you as a customer for a delayed Patch, after delayed Patch, after delayed Patch.
If KK was owned by Sony, or EA, or any Vivendi, after the first couple delays the whole production team woulda been replaced with a team that could meet their promised publicly stated dates.
Matthew.v.smith
21-12-04, 00:40
Any chance of the Outfitter fix this patch?
I'd log in just for that alone.
Matty. :angel:
Dr Strange
21-12-04, 00:42
Threads merged.
Please keep any patch chat in this thread.
yes, lets not have multiple threads pointing out yet another broken promised patch date
Where once was it promised that monday was patch day? I don't remember ever seeing such a promise.
Lets face it, none of us work there, we know shit about whats going on in the offices of KK. For all we know maybe there is some other stuff that they are having to focus all their effort on or something.
Yes i'll agree a lot of stuff is long overdue but there is no point going on about it and saying promises were broke that weren't made?
Where once was it promised that monday was patch day? I don't remember ever seeing such a promise.
Lets face it, none of us work there, we know shit about whats going on in the offices of KK. For all we know maybe there is some other stuff that they are having to focus all their effort on or something.
Yes i'll agree a lot of stuff is long overdue but there is no point going on about it and saying promises were broke that weren't made?
Let me answer your quote with another one from announcement forum.
I have some news for you, to keep you up to date. The first one is: We will not patch this week, instead we will do it on monday.
Am just staying here and waiting to see this bubble finally burst.
Quoting the whole story from Ratboys post and not a select line:
Dear Community,
I have some news for you, to keep you up to date. The first one is: We will not patch this week, instead we will do it on monday.
So on monday there will be a surprise for all of us, as we don't know yet which things will be ready to be patched in on monday due to the illness of some of our staff.
So expect a new update on monday by me. Thanks for your indulgence and patience
He said monday wasnt a definite patch day so the lack of a patch isnt another broken promise, cut down on the melodrama and get your facts right before posting flamebait. The only thing he didnt do was inform us that the patch had been delayed.
Dr Strange
21-12-04, 01:27
Quoting the whole story from Ratboys post and not a select line:
He said monday wasnt a definite patch day so the lack of a patch isnt another broken promise, cut down on the melodrama and get your facts right before posting flamebait. The only thing he didnt do was inform us that the patch had been delayed.
He mentions monday specifically several times in that update. He doesn't say it's a "possible" patch day, he said it WAS a patch day.
When a dev/mod posts an a day, it's that day. Not the day after, not the week after.
Face it, Ratboy said Monday, it's Monday (after closing hours, well after in Germany) and yet no patch. Again, 2 promises broken within the last 4 weeks.
plague, there was no promise in that short quote you quoted. And in the full posting he stated that the staff have been ill, so i don't think it is wrong for them to be late if there is something going round the office
Maybe i just have a mass amount of patience.
Face it, Ratboy said Monday, it's Monday (after closing hours, well after in Germany) and yet no patch. Again, 2 promises broken within the last 4 weeks.
Monday.. Monday 20th? Monday 27th ... no exact date.
If you bothered reading what I quoted and ratboy said there are people sick at KK so the patch deployment wasnt definite.
Quoting the whole story from Ratboys post and not a select line:
He said monday wasnt a definite patch day so the lack of a patch isnt another broken promise, cut down on the melodrama and get your facts right before posting flamebait. The only thing he didnt do was inform us that the patch had been delayed.
Maby you can point it out to me but where was "flamebait" and who said "broken promiss"? Was just kindly pointing out that they should not post any dates cuz most of the time shey shoot them selves in a foot.
plague, there was no promise in that short quote you quoted.
I know but they did set out expectations for monday and onse again let them down. Personally I care not about this game, stoped long time ago, but it's realy finny to see people still defend kk.
Maby you can point it out to me but where was "flamebait" and who said "broken promiss"? Was just kindly pointing out that they should not post any dates cuz most of the time shey shoot them selves in a foot.
With that said; where the fuck do yall get off breaking ANOTHER FUCKING PROMISE of a patch on MONDAY?
yes, lets not have multiple threads pointing out yet another broken promised patch date
Happy?
Happy?
Not realy, if it wasn't directly pointed at my replay then maby you shopuld not have quoted me on that.
I never said it was directed to your reply I just posted after you which is a world of difference.
On the other hand.......You did say "Quoting the whole story from Ratboys post and not a select line:" and I was the one that quoted so it was directed at me.....
Am off work now weeeeeeeeeee, am freeee. :p :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dr Strange
21-12-04, 01:42
If you bothered reading what I quoted and ratboy said there are people sick at KK so the patch deployment wasnt definite.
Ok, let's go over this AGAIN:
A, if a company cannot preform it's day to day routine due to illness then that needs to be addressed in an official statement letting paying customers know. This would clear up possible near-future delays, such as a patch or new content or support delays. Also, if a whole company, even one as small as KK is side lined by an illness....well personally I see that as just poor management (always keep other employees on call in case of such events)
B, don't mention it. If they cannot patch on Day X that they said they would, either due to illness or production delays, they then need not say "well on Day X, the patch will be released". Not only does this further tarnish their name, it also helps further build a bad relationship with paying customers.
It's easy for them, just tell us we might get a patch this week. No specific day, no specific time, just a maybe. IRL if a company or business advertises a specific date and time for something then doesn't come through, they can be sued (in America) for faulty advertising. Unfortunately that does not apply online, if it did KK would be bankrupt by now.
just remember you arnt paying for neocron to make patches. thay are pure bonus. you are paying for neocron in its current state and for the servers. thats it.
Dr Strange
21-12-04, 01:56
just remember you arnt paying for neocron to make patches. thay are pure bonus. you are paying for neocron in its current state and for the servers. thats it.
I would agree if I was paying a one-time payment.
However I am paying a month by month basis. And based apon other MMORPGS such as EQ and UO, it has been proven that they can easily gain a profit and still easily cover monthly server fee's plus bandwidth. Hence I hold all MMORPGS to the same calibur, especially NC since the populations are low, bandwidth should be at a minimal and theres only 4 servers....So they can't be costing them a fortune each month to run, considering they are raking in X amount from at least 1000+ players, not counting how much they gain in currency conversion for those of us outside Europe.
So yes I'd say with the profit they make we are paying for patches. Even if they were just hotfix patches and not new content, I'd be happy. Remember the old saying "if it aint broke dont fix it"? well there are things that are broke so fix it
just remember you arnt paying for neocron to make patches. thay are pure bonus. you are paying for neocron in its current state and for the servers. thats it.
Um... no. We are paying for those things, but we are also paying for the following:
The storage of our character status and items on them
The Dev's Paychecks
The addition of new content
In conclusion... yes, we are paying for Neocron to make patches.
Ok, let's go over this AGAIN:
A, if a company cannot preform it's day to day routine due to illness then that needs to be addressed in an official statement letting paying customers know. This would clear up possible near-future delays, such as a patch or new content or support delays. Also, if a whole company, even one as small as KK is side lined by an illness....well personally I see that as just poor management (always keep other employees on call in case of such events)
B, don't mention it. If they cannot patch on Day X that they said they would, either due to illness or production delays, they then need not say "well on Day X, the patch will be released". Not only does this further tarnish their name, it also helps further build a bad relationship with paying customers.
It's easy for them, just tell us we might get a patch this week. No specific day, no specific time, just a maybe. IRL if a company or business advertises a specific date and time for something then doesn't come through, they can be sued (in America) for faulty advertising. Unfortunately that does not apply online, if it did KK would be bankrupt by now.
A.Small companies dont have loads of backup staff so they have to wait for them to get better for them to do their jobs again and I said that Ratboy hadnt informed us of a delay even though he said would.
B.Ratboy said that it may be delayed from monday because of illness in the same post as he said that it would be deployed on monday, personally I would rather KK saying we should have a patch deployed on day X unless some forseen or unforseen problem comes up rather then no information coming from KK at all which you seem to rather. Dont get me wrong I was as pissed as anybody else with all the DoY delays but they were major delays, not a day or two because somebody is down sick.
So what your saying that every game that gets its release date put back in America gets sued? If thats true I dont see the American games market surviving much longer.Anyway KK didnt give a specific date and time.
Dr Strange
21-12-04, 02:14
So what your saying that every game that gets its release date put back in America gets sued? If thats true I dont see the American games market surviving much longer.Anyway KK didnt give a specific date and time.
God, I could only hope so.
No, in America you can't sue for faulty advertising online, it's just not allowed. If it was, millions of American gamers would have sued over delayed games such as Daikatana, Duke Nuke'em Forever, Half Life 2, etc cause all were promised either on a specific date or a specific period in a month/year, but failed to come through.
My example was real life businesses. It's like (JUST AS AN EXAMPLE), Walmart advertises Neocron 2 as being on their store shelves on December 1st in America, and on December 1st it is in NO Wal-Mart store shelf, despite being on other store shelves in other stores. You as a customer are entitled to take legal action aganist said company, for faulty advertisement. Which as I said, doesn't work for online advertisements and/or promises.
Not to mention different countries have different laws unfortunately. Even if i could use that as an option, KK is located in Germany where they may or may not have a similar law, or no law for such a thing at all.
5th time my FUCKING firefox has closed on me when im nearly done. why cant microsoft make a good ANYTHING? i mean i have yet to have a microsoft game run without a huge bug i need to have fixed. ITs a good thing i backed this up becouse it crashed for a 6th time but i had it in notepad.
anyways @ nvidia
"The storage of our character status and items on them"
When i said we pay for servers i ment this aswell. after all storage is part of the servers. sorry i should have been more specific.
"The Dev's Paychecks"
anyone who has a job has a customer who pays for their paycheck. so why you are mentioning this i have no idea. its as if you think you are doing kk a great favor by paying for their services. if you want to go into more detail you also pay for their heating, food, water, clothes. but here is the thing. you arnt paying them. you are buying their service.
"The addition of new content"
can you please quote where it says this? aybe i missed it but i have never seen anything say that we are paying for new content aswell.
Rest assured KK will never ever promise anything again so you can take what they say with a grain of salt.
Any info, even bad is better than none at all.
I would have rather seen Ratboy post about the delay himself, but maybe the guys too sick.
Lupus did post about the delay in this thread, but I would rather have a sticky made by Lupus or other KK staff where it would be easy for everyone to see.
No one "promised" a patch today.
Saying we are going to patch on Monday is not a promise, it's an intent. (aim or goal)
"The storage of our character status and items on them"
When i said we pay for servers i ment this aswell. after all storage is part of the servers. sorry i should have been more specific.
No Problem...
"The Dev's Paychecks"
anyone who has a job has a customer who pays for their paycheck. so why you are mentioning this i have no idea. its as if you think you are doing kk a great favor by paying for their services. if you want to go into more detail you also pay for their heating, food, water, clothes. but here is the thing. you arnt paying them. you are buying their service.
Yes, I, as well as every other customer, are doing them a great favor. We, through our monthly contributions, keep this game running, and as a result, they get to keep their jobs. If there was no one to pay for this game, how could any of them work for Neocron and manage to survive off nothing?
By buying their services, I am paying them. If no one bought their service, they wouldn't get paid, would they?
"The addition of new content"
can you please quote where it says this? aybe i missed it but i have never seen anything say that we are paying for new content aswell.
One of the main points on just about every MMO's FAQ page in relation to the question, "Why is there a monthly subscription cost?" states that part of that money goes towards "generating new content" and "constantly updating the game with new, fun things to do".
OMGOMGOMG :O~~~ ~~~~~
Give me the new sword.. i can test it out, and reply to u if ppl whine how it's overpowered ^^
Need it... need to... need to waste some procity.. must.. wait until i'm home..graaah.. the bloodlust in my veins is just killing me..
Matthew.v.smith
21-12-04, 13:12
So erm.
Any word on Outfitters?
Matty. :angel:
My god.
Page 3 is just a complete waste of time =/
Why is it, when anyone is discussing a patch - it always degenerates into
"KK Promised etc"
Pfft - it'll come when it comes... whether they promise or not - whinging won't make it get here any faster.
Cba to read the whole thread... we expecting a patch today then? Coolness :cool:
Cba to read the whole thread... we expecting a patch today then? Coolness :cool:
It's a possibility - it was delayed because peeps were sick/internal testing/exploit fixes etc
but with the sickyness in KK still at large, I would'nt read it as gospel.
I'm pretty sure we'll be patched at some point this week though.
OK next time KK makes something Overpowered iam going to use it AT ONCE! eccacly when iam capping Healing Light they nerfing it buhu =( well acculy iam gald that u made this change... i think it was little 2 much dmg on int... maby if it was a tl 135 rifle it would be synced =)
they did like 3 patches in 3 days.. how much patching you guys want? :lol:
See how bumping is bad? Use the patch notes thread to discuss the patch, not some old "where's the patch?" thread. Thanks.
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