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dark_reaper
07-12-04, 21:08
Has AMD stop making the XP series of Processors? Does anyone know?

QuantumDelta
07-12-04, 21:36
Has AMD stop making the XP series of Processors? Does anyone know?
I thought it was just a specific core they'd stopped?

Though I wouldn't be suprised if they stopped the XP series.
With the A64s, and their new budget chips, why bother?

Omnituens
07-12-04, 21:43
i they stopped production of the Durons and replaced them with the Sempron

then they brought out high end Sepmrons, but wether these are replacing the XP line i dont know.

darknessfairy
08-12-04, 01:27
www.aria.co.uk do some nice xp cpus. nice price too. might wanna check it out

/me looks at new 64 in her puter *drools

garyu69
08-12-04, 01:29
As far as i was aware the XP chips are now gone also and all AMD have now will be Sempron and 64's.

I'm tossing with the idea of a 64 or P4 chip at the moment. Not sure what to go for.

Seven
08-12-04, 01:39
As far as i was aware the XP chips are now gone also and all AMD have now will be Sempron and 64's.

I'm tossing with the idea of a 64 or P4 chip at the moment. Not sure what to go for.

Which one is better for gaming?

The P4 is supposed to be better at multi-tasking so I hear. :confused:

wombat74
08-12-04, 01:47
As far as i was aware the XP chips are now gone also and all AMD have now will be Sempron and 64's.

I'm tossing with the idea of a 64 or P4 chip at the moment. Not sure what to go for.

For myself, I went P4 at the moment. The 64 is a nicer chip, by far, but you're not gonna get it's full potential running on any copy of Windows untill MS released the 64-bit version. Once (if?) they do, I'll happily replace my P4/865 combo with an A64/nForce4 system (maybe K8T890 - still haven't decided between the nVidia or the Via chipsets)

IceStorm
08-12-04, 02:35
The XP is on its way out (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20074), yes.

The 64 is a nicer chip, by far, but you're not gonna get it's full potential running on any copy of Windows untill MS released the 64-bit version.Until there are 64bit binaries, it won't matter much. The A64 is a very strong 32bit CPU. 64bit won't do that much.

Omnituens
08-12-04, 02:42
Sniff. Durons will stick around, my backup CPU is a duron, just incase this fries.

spongeb0b
08-12-04, 03:05
yeah i couldnt find them anywhere either :/... nm i'm stickin with an xp2800 for now til i can afford a sexy new one :)... oh and mobo seeing as socket A will be going soon aswell by the looks of it

Omnituens
08-12-04, 04:22
the replacement - Sempr0n - is Socket A

i think all you'll need is a BIOS upgrade and BAM... Sempr0n.

well depends how old the mobo is really.

psst.... a certain site ending in .co.uk and is called the same as a group of people who push their system over the clockspeed are selling the barton 3200+ at a bargin price.

I hope thats not advertising, i hide the address enough didnt i? :p

wombat74
08-12-04, 04:56
I hope thats not advertising, i hide the address enough didnt i? :p

Yeah, I think as long as you don't mention overclockers dot co dot you kay you're fine.

That would just be spam, and spam is bad.

IceStorm
08-12-04, 05:23
the replacement - Sempr0n - is Socket AIt's moving completely to Socket 754 by the end of 2005.

Bugs Gunny
08-12-04, 10:24
I'll just keep toasting my mobile amd at 2600MHZ till it burns out.
By then i'll be able to get me a 64 bit puppy.

Omnituens
08-12-04, 15:05
It's moving completely to Socket 754 by the end of 2005.
yeah, but that still makes Socket A viable for a year, and in computing thats a LONG time considering how fast things are moving.

IceStorm
08-12-04, 16:36
yeah, but that still makes Socket A viable for a year,Viable how? It's not like the parts just evaporate once production stops. You'll be able to buy Socket A parts for quite a while, so if you mean you'll be able to populate the socket, well, PII's are still "viable".

May 2003 saw the release of the top Socket A speed grade - the XP 3200+. It's been all downhill since then.

Omnituens
08-12-04, 16:56
Viable how? It's not like the parts just evaporate once production stops. You'll be able to buy Socket A parts for quite a while, so if you mean you'll be able to populate the socket, well, PII's are still "viable".

i never said PII's were not viable, because thats not the topic in discussion.

they my be viable, but they are crap compared to newer tech. XP's are not crap. They will always be the best 32-Bit system imo.

IceStorm
10-12-04, 02:25
i never said PII's were not viable,Strawman. You brought up platform viability, not me. You said having Socket A CPUs produced for another year makes them viable, not me.

If by viable you mean available, there's plenty of yesteryear tech that is viable.

If you mean viable as in competative, then you're wrong. XP CPUs were outclassed by 800Mhz FSB P4s a long time ago. The A64 makes them look even worse. Socket A's a budget platform at this point, not mainstream or performance. It does very well in the budget category, but that doesn't make it mainstream. It isn't getting any faster.
XP's are not crap.Neither was the PII, but neither is in their prime any longer. Bang for the buck is one thing, but if one is buying a new mainstream system, one should make it an A64 939 or a Socket T system if one wants to upgrade it later. Even a Socket 754 system's a better choice than perpetuating a dying platform like Socket A.

Don't believe me? Read this TR review of the A64 3000+ (http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2004q1/athlon64-3000/index.x?pg=1). The top XP CPU, a 3200+, gets smacked around pretty badly by CPUs several "speed grades" below it in most tests, gaming especially. I don't know what pricing is like where you live, but an A64 3000+ S754 and 939, as well as the A64 3200+ S754 and 939 are all cheaper than a XP 3200+. With an A64 3000+ going for $150, do you really think advocating overclocing a ~$110 XP-M 2500+ w/ heatsink is worth it?

Socket A is dead. The alternatives are faster and about the same price, if not cheaper. Why beat a dead horse?

QuantumDelta
10-12-04, 02:42
That review is really, really, dated.

dark_reaper
10-12-04, 10:12
Right now the AMD FX-55 owns everything. Also the newer semprons are now Socket 754 but not 64bit.

Just read an review in Maximum PC about the AMD FX-55 and 3.46 P4 EE. From what I read, it seems the socket 754 and the socket 939 will rule all. :D