View Full Version : Question to KK.
Was it your intention to make noob buffing/healing an element of PvP?
If not why not just make it so higher spells override lower spells or whatever.
Hope you read this.
Asurmen Spec Op
17-11-04, 03:45
wow this is getting alot more then it deserves, ppu dont deserve this many threads ugh
I got a PPU / APU / Melee tank.
I hate it just as much on all my chars.
Asurmen Spec Op
17-11-04, 03:50
well Im just getting sick of all this crap, so dont mind me :)
I think noob buffing is gay but its not an exploit by rules of KK(they didnt say it so its not plain and simple)
I usually avoid ppus tho, I dont like em in PVP, PVM they are fine
btw: will some one pelase tell me how the following spells are on a ppu
para,DB, and soulcluster. now before you go off on whatever remeber PPU is a PASSIVE PSYCIC USER
pasive
passive
passive
passive
how is para passive?
passive
DB?
sc?
not passive
QuantumDelta
17-11-04, 03:52
Just make S/D SC Only.
Nerf (Heavily, but read below) "Self Heal" but keep foreign where it is.
Restore some rezz time.
Remove / Reduce Turn problem on para.
Make DB PE only.
Fix True Sight.
Make all PPU Spells bar rezz, runcastable, rezz stays as it is.
Fixes most things.
Spec Op:
Wasn't DB/Para originally EPU? :p
They just transfered it over.
Asurmen Spec Op
17-11-04, 04:35
EPU?
teh?
Exotic PSI Use ...
it eventually got transmogrified into MST and became a simple minimum requirement for useage.
Exotic Psi Use
too slow :p
Asurmen Spec Op
17-11-04, 04:37
Just make S/D SC Only.
likey
Nerf (Heavily, but read below) "Self Heal" but keep foreign where it is.
oohh yes
Restore some rezz time.
yes
Remove / Reduce Turn problem on para.
yayy!!!
Make DB PE only.
coolz
Fix True Sight.
needed
Make all PPU Spells bar rezz, runcastable, rezz stays as it is.
I like it
Fixes most things.
agreed
Spec Op:
Wasn't DB/Para originally EPU? :p
They just transfered it over.
<--- I like it
exotic psi use. I think that sounds kinda cool tbh
thanks MK and other guy who I cant remeber while editing
S/D sc only? ....... Good bye APU and all will reroll to PE and tank.
Ceres labs, doy tunnel, mc5 could a tank now solo them? :rolleyes:
There's no need for all that imo what is needed is simply to make foreign cast heal's 50% and make higher tl overide lower tl then if a ppu gets noob buffed he ain't fucked but on the other side the people he's keeping alive won't have godmode either and if the ppu is last alive there ain't no way he's getting anyone rezz'd with a 50% holy heal on the when they get up
Dargeshaad
17-11-04, 10:21
S/D sc only? ....... Good bye APU and all will reroll to PE and tank.
Ceres labs, doy tunnel, mc5 could a tank now solo them? :rolleyes:
Ever considered making an APU with PE defenses? With psi3 you'd still be deadly.
Ever considered that KK could tone down mob dmg in order to balance it out?
S/D sc only? ....... Good bye APU and all will reroll to PE and tank.
Ceres labs, doy tunnel, mc5 could a tank now solo them? :rolleyes:OF course everything else will stay as it is now. You know KK, theyre just gonna say "Hey, NOW you got highlevel content thats hard!!1" o_O
Seriously, adjusting mobs definately isnt the hardest thing. They did it before when they increased highlevel mobs health and damage, there shouldnt be a problem lowering that again.
I like QDs idea, although im not sure about s/d selfcast only. Thats a huge boost for PEs (who might need it), drugging spies (not) and hybrids (definately not). Rather nerf foreign cast s/d once again.
everyone who says s/d selfcast primarily plays PE's
especially you QD, i thought you where into balance, not promote "my class fuck everyone else"
s/d sc is the worst idea ever.
OP wars will last 30 seconds, MC5 would need 5 ppu's 3 to chain cast reserection, 1 to constantly heal and 1 to DB the commander.
maybe im biased as i play a apu/tank........meh dunno
p.s i do hate PE's so i am definetely biased :D
Just make S/D SC Only.
I'm still not sure on this one. It's been suggested for ages by a few players (mostly you :p). I can kinda see the logic but it's a HUGE nerf and would make a lot of the current high-end dungeons impossible. It would probably throw more things (PvP and PvM) out of balance than any other single change I can think of so would have to be part of a bigger plan.
Nerf (Heavily, but read below) "Self Heal" but keep foreign where it is.
Not sure what that would do other than make people need 2 PPUs up their arse. Not keen without some substantial and clear reasons to do it.
Restore some rezz time.
If you mean make it cast quicker I'd agree that if PPUs (or PPU spells) are weakened this is needed to keep people from leaving.
Remove / Reduce Turn problem on para.
YES. Para would be much more bearable if you could turn to track the enemy.
Make DB PE only.
Why?
Fix True Sight.
Definitely. Boost it's range and time while you are it.
Make all PPU Spells bar rezz, runcastable, rezz stays as it is.
Maybe. It depends what other changes happened at the same time.
Fixes most things.
Spec Op:
Wasn't DB/Para originally EPU? :p
DB was EPU, para was APU. EPU was only used for DB, DB Sanctum and Res (there was no Holy Res back then).
They just transfered it over.[text to permit post]
everyone who says s/d selfcast primarily plays PE's
especially you QD, i thought you where into balance, not promote "my class fuck everyone else"
s/d sc is the worst idea ever.
OP wars will last 30 seconds,
p.s i do hate PE's so i am definetely biased :D
couldnt say it better myself
edit: psi2 attack hybrids would own any attack force....
Please use the existing thread to discuss this topic. Thanks.
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/edit - link. (http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=118480)
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