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bounty
13-11-04, 02:39
few would argue that this patch was a great patch and I completely agree, with one acception. With this patch, you have now made my droner class COMPLETELY useless. I have no crosshair, and I'm one of 2 people experiencing this. I even updated my graphics driver. I cannot run dx9 on this video card, and the other person having this problem can't run dx9 either, so there is a connection here. I would like some kind of a response to this please, as I cannot now play a class i have spent days in the past leveling up and I am not loming so lets please look into this okay?

amfest
13-11-04, 02:48
just curious, can you hit nothing at all if you're centered on it? Does the hitbox come up if you center it basically? Or is it totally borked in that you get no hitbox at all? If it does give a hitbox then I'd get a lil tiny piece of tape and put it on the center of my screen . ..LOL.

Still I agree this should get fixed as quickly as possible. Though I read that it'll be just a little while before they get a fix out when they were commenting on the "no implants dropping on death" bug.

MkVenner
13-11-04, 02:52
i run dx7 and i can still see my crosshair on my uber noob droner, dunno why your not seeing yours...

bounty
13-11-04, 03:06
yeah i can see the hitbox, but just no crosshair, but its very lame and difficult without a x-hair. sanityislost has the same problem :-/ so i know its not just me.

sanityislost
13-11-04, 03:12
Yea its evil, the new hud looks sexy from the pics ive seen
Just wish i could see it lol

SiL ..:..

bounty
13-11-04, 03:17
is there anyway to restore everything prepatch?

Richard Blade
13-11-04, 03:19
...If it does give a hitbox then I'd get a lil tiny piece of tape and put it on the center of my screen . ..LOL.

Back when I played Day of Defeat, I'd tape thick black thread accross my screen to help aquire targets faster. One horizontal, one vertical, taped to the edges of the monitor and pulled tight. Since the center of the screen is always the aiming point, it worked great.
Might work as a quick fix for the missing crosshairs.
It also keeps tape off the glass.

Spoon
13-11-04, 03:29
You using a custom RPOS color scheme?

http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=118340

DroneCrosshair=128 255 190 255

Make sure your crosshair color isn't set to zero, or some fucked transparent color....

Maybe a file check too..

sanityislost
13-11-04, 03:44
ini file is fine and a file check didnt show up any errors

SiL ..:..

Spoon
13-11-04, 04:04
Were you using a custom or one of the alternate RPOS color schemes before the patch?

I noticed some of the extra ones that come with the rposcolor.ini, don't define the drone crosshair color or other values pertaining to drones..

Maybe try setting the "/set gfx_hudcolor <x>" to zero....

*EDIT*
btw, were either of you using the enhanced launcher or something?

*EDIT 2*
I got 9800pro, Dx 9.0c version

Here's what mine looks like, My crosshair is working, using the default setting...

// [DEFAULT] - default settings - do not change
// [USER<x>] - user defined settings

// Use the "/set gfx_hudcolor <x>" command ingame (or use it in controls.ini)
// to change the RPOS color layout. A value of x=0 loads the default settings.
// In the [USER<x>] sections of this ini file, only colors which differ from
// the default settings must be specified.

[DEFAULT]
Name=Default
Author=Reakktor Media
Default=128 255 190 255
DefaultText=180 240 200 255
DefaultButton=128 255 190 255

DarkText=0 0 0 255
DefaultTextEffect=255 255 255 255

SysMessages=255 160 160 160
GameMessages=200 200 0 160

//Chat channel Colors
LocalChat=255 255 255 255
GlobalChat=180 230 255 255
TeamChat=180 230 180 255
ClanChat=118 160 180 255
DirectChat=73 230 153 255
ZoneChat=255 255 190 255
CustomChat=218 164 106 255

//Local List Colors
Player=255 255 180 255
PlayerNoPK=180 180 255 255

//Character System Colors (implant bonusses etc. )
CharSysWarning=255 255 160 160
CharSysBonus=110 255 110 160
CharSysCritical=255 160 160 160

ContextActive=100 200 150 255
ContextNoActive=0 0 0 255
ContextDisabled=128 128 128 255

HighlightText=0 0 0 255
HighlightBackground=100 200 150 255

Item=190 255 230 255
ItemDisabled=128 128 128 255
ItemNotUsable=112 0 0 255

Damage=255 50 35 255
Heal=255 255 35 255

//SoulLight Indicator Colors
GoodSoullight=100 200 150 255
NeutralSoullight=200 200 150 255
BadSoullight=200 80 60 255

//Healthbars Colors
GoodHealth=100 200 150 255
MediumHealth=200 200 150 255
BadHealth=200 80 60 255

//Faction Window: Faction Sympathy Colors
FWGoodSympathy=100 200 150 255
FWNeutralSympathy=200 200 150 255
FWBadSympathy=200 80 60 255

//BoundingBox Colors
BBGoodSL=100 200 150 255
BBNeutralSL=200 200 150 255
BBBadSL=200 80 60 255

BBGoodFS=100 200 150 255
BBNeutralFS=200 200 150 255
BBBadFS=200 80 60 255

BBCombatLevelVeryLow=128 128 128 255
BBCombatLevelEqual=100 200 150 255
BBCombatLevelHigher=200 200 150 255
BBCombatLevelVeryHigh=200 80 60 255

//Worldmap Faction Colors
CityAdmin=128 255 0 100
DiamondRealEstate=0 0 255 100
Next=200 0 0 100
TangentTechnologies= 255 255 128 100
BioTech=0 0 100 100
ProtoPharma=128 255 255 100
CityMercs=0 128 0 100
TsunamiSyndicate=255 128 128 100
BlackDragon=50 50 50 100
CrahnSect=128 0 128 100
FallenAngels=180 180 180 100
TwilightGuardian=200 150 0 100

//Worldmap City Colors
Neocron=0 255 0 100
DoY=255 0 0 100

//Crosshair Colors
Crosshair=128 255 190 255
AimingArrow=255 255 255 255

//Drone colors
DroneBase=128 255 190 255

FullEnergy=100 200 150 255
MediumEnergy=200 200 150 255
LowEnergy=200 80 60 255

DroneCrosshairCore=128 255 190 0
DroneCrosshair=128 255 190 255

DroneHudChatBG=128 255 190 0

Shadowbreed
13-11-04, 04:08
Well it's definitely not JUST DX7 since i know several people running that who have no probs with the drone hud.

So now comes the deduction part:

DX7 + certain gfx card?

Post ur details so KK knows where to look ppl

I run a radeon 9800 pro without problems all people i asked run either the same or a radeon 9800 or 9700

You guys using Geforce? i know of several games where things are invisi with certain geforce cards, for example the water in SWG on some cards..

More info please :)

sanityislost
13-11-04, 04:38
Got a geforce 4 mx 400 card
havent used any sort a custom hud set up, just the default

SiL ..:..

QuickFix
13-11-04, 04:43
PAIN and FF's Droners didnt seem to have a problem tonight, so i would guess its problem with you and not the game ?

bounty
13-11-04, 05:01
Got a geforce 4 mx 400 card
havent used any sort a custom hud set up, just the default

SiL ..:..

well, we have the same video card, so go figure :)

kurai
13-11-04, 05:13
I've been talking to Bounty to try and troubleshoot it.
Seems I can recreate the same issue :-

In NC2 DX7 mode drone HUD is fuxxored.
In NC2 DX9 mode drone HUD is fine.

It's not a simple rposcolor.ini problem - I've changed and tested pretty much every relevant setting, and many that werent.

My card is an Nvidia Ti4400.

SiL & Bounty have cards that are hardware limited to DX7 features. Mine is DX8 hardware limited.
That would tend to imply that the DX9 APIs in use are hooking to backwardly compatible DX8 or greater features.

The bitmaps themselves aren't anything special compared to the rest of the RPOS.

Has someone simply made a careless mistake and coded the .dll to API handles that simply aren't *in* DX7 ?