Like ants to a picnic...

[Spermy]

Well, recently - there's been a spate of old players coming back to the cron after a LONG time away.

What I'm asking is - did KK do a good job? Is it better than when you left - what things should have remained unchanged - what would you change if you could?

Just trying to get some of the older peoples views on it really...

[Transformer]

not that its gotten better...its just when you spend so much time in another game you realize that neocron is a good concept and was fun to play. just depends what your into.

[Blacksword]

after a year, i expected more places to go and more mobs. at the very high end there are a few more places, and i hear the mobs are just larger skins of existing mobs mostly. i have the top part of the map cut off because of doybots. the pp club is closed, regants legacy is not in use, no zoo, no concenter, no ncpd. when i used to play, grs were available to everyone in the wasteland, now that is not so. im somewhat fine with that, as its hard to find a gr not camped anyhow, so im running most of the time, or riding the hover.

i find there is a different feel with doy, i still would like to be able to get in as easy as it is to get into nc. as it is, it feels ..smaller. ive heard of some new stuff i havnt messed with yet, MC5, doy tunnels. im under the impression that these were before nc2 though.

i feel like its pretty much the same game, but with divided factions, harder to get items(not all that hard) and somewhat more people(probably because of putting the international together at terra.) More combat at grs, less at ops. actually had people come out and pk in j01 nowhere near a gr today, which was nice, except i was killed twice. better there than at a gr, where i die 80% of the time. still need to get used to stealth, ive had so many get away from me, only the ones that stealth too slow and die from the burn on my fire halo are killed. i dont mean to offend any pes, but im glad they dont have it anymore. facing half the battlefield having invisibility would just be frustrating. playing a monk for the first time i cant aim a barrel for shit hehe. i think i might lom my hacker pistol spy from nc1 to try out stealthing rifles perhaps. i really dotn care for hacknet honestly. looked cool at first, faster travel, but otherwise, whoopity do. imo anyway. maybe ill try it out a lil more before i lom. other than some content that hasnt been put in yet(which im used to ever since nc came out, doy not being free, not being some months after nc1 but years, no mechs, no player shops, areas being closed down) my biggest problem is still the lack of players. i really would like to see more.

I do like the epics, but again, those came after i left and before nc2.

the best new feature im looking forward to is the theme weeks. an effort by kk to communicate and concentrate thier efforts in one direction at a time i think might do alot of good. i think i might bust out my newbie droner from nc 1 when droners were the shit.

what i like: new effort by kk, some new content( awaiting the rest)
what i dont like: feels smaller, hardly any players, same feel\look as the origional, stealth(cause im not used to it yet hehe)

[bounty]

I still play this game,but I am starting to wonder exactly what i'm paying for. Everything I do now, I could have done and more in nc1. Personally, I liked the old skins so much better than the current ones. So much in fact, that I would wear PA no matter what the costs were to my setup. If PA gave me -100 atl and -100 agl i'd still wear it cause my guy looks so damn flamboyant.

I get a fatal runtime error now adays, but I honestly do crash waaaay less frequently than I did in nc1, but they are still there.

Every bug i've ever encountered in neocron, is still in this game. Everything from the synch with 50 health bug, to the synch into someone else's apartment, and even the green guy skin is still in this game.

I was expecting more, new mobs. There is none.

I was expecting player run shops. There is none.

I was expecting improved FPS. I sure don't experience any.

I was expecting everything minus the HQ's to be dangerous to walk around in due to safezone removal, however, everyone still hangs out in same old plaza1 and even if there is a small raid and a few people get killed, it doesn't last long and most people just move to a different area of the sector where it is hard for raiders to go without being freezed mutliple times at once.

I was expecting Wastelands Upgrades, but with the exception of a few bunkers here and there, i'm failing to see much of an improvement.

We were also promised Improved Newbie Experience
with "The introduction of newcomers to the game will be completely redesigned." granted, this was improved a bit and a newb definitely has a better time learning things, but without the help of vets in mc5, i feel hardly anyone would truly learn the ropes for neocron. I also would bet many left neocron after 2 hours of play simply because there was little direction and lack of fun.

It is too difficult to get items these days, sometimes even getting simple items can be a tedious task.

While i love the concept and idea of gliders, we were told that " The gliders will i.e. enrich the Outpost fights with excitement and new strategic elements." They would hardly serve as a meaningful fighting unit in an op, and that is if you could even fly one there without it blowing up by a rain drop in the sky.

I still haven't seen snowfall which was promised.

Still no casinos. (I don't consider the jail a casino).

Economy is slowly going the same way as NC1. A wipe from nc1 to nc2 will become even more pointless as the game grows.

Advertising is still non-existent(i'm not in germany but still have seen no plans to market it elsewhere).

It would be easy to trick yourself into thinking there are more people online, but I'm truly failing to see this. There are hardly anymore online than before, its just that KK has taken 3 servers and shoved all of them together.

no 1 slot international server. 4 slot just is not for me.

Basically the delivery of new concepts has been pathetic. WOC is just now getting in the game and many things i was looking forward to are no where to be found.

Things i like!

hacknet is an evolvingly nice environment and it was definitely a lot neater and i could see it growing to be even more useful down the road than expected.

The new epic runs are coming around and the items for the most part are useful and tradeable. IE crahn glove

The Dome Of York is definitely nice to look at and serves its purpose and is bigger than I was expecting.

There is a bit more meaning to being in a faction. This i feel could be improved upon even more quite easily.

Customizable apartments didn't really interest me much, until i took a look at my clan's apartment and now understand why it is such a neat feature. Thumbs up for that one.

Communication between KK and the community has been the best I've ever seen it. They still go into a bit of a foxhole when there is a major flaw or problem, but overall the upgrade of communication levels is what is keeping me around. I feel more involved as a player than I did even a few months ago.

This is basiscally it, i could go on forever but this is just the tip of the iceberd. Overall, if you are wanting to come back for new content and a new experience, you will not find it.

[Birkoff]

A brand new GFX interface...
mechs implemented .....
paladin created...
all the Beta 4 bugs will be gone....
new weapons...
areas ...
working WOC.....
OPs with multiple hack terminals..
Player shops....
OP wars totally chaging and OPs being faction owned instead of clan...
etc...

So much was promised.. so little was given... Its a shame.

[Mechanicus]

what happened to TH and the canyon becoming giant outposts?

[bounty]

what happened to TH and the canyon becoming giant outposts?

TH is a snore fest and canyon is now infiltrated with leapers, i actually don't mind this myself but the TH is lame.

[Mechanicus]

oh i know this im just remembering what MJS said all the tima ago

[jernau]

oh i know this im just remembering what MJS said all the tima ago
He mentioned it once as a vague possibility. Luckily that was as far as it got.

[Mechanicus]

you would say that because you ARE MJS HAH!!!

[notneo]

nope

in fact i play less now as it has lost its addictiveness

the new shops blow

faction supply manager was intended to make more trading but it just makes it harder to get anything

removal of safe zones in city makes it a gankfest where tradeskillers get picked off,and you got to go there to do business as server pops to low to stay in hq safe zones

way it stands 2 accounts on the way out soon

[Jesterthegreat]

old people are coming back... whether they ounumber the number of old people leaving is debatable

:note: old people does not refer to age :p

[dem0n]

If raptors were easier to target, I'd level in TG canyon. As for the game I agree with what someone else mentioned before. I've played other games for a few months [EVE, SWG, Ragnarok, UO, DAoC, CoD UO, Elder Scrolls, NWN, Oni] and I came back to NC2 and it got me addicted again. Yes NC2 has a great concept... just that the community is failing and the game isn't getting much attention on the market [as its supposed to].

[Jesterthegreat]

http://www.cdv-neocron.de/generated/neocron_e_faq.html

CDV used the current launcher pic all that time ago as their background :p

i know it was kicking around the forums ages ago (the pic not the link) but its still a shock to me :p

[Mechanicus]

the dame if killing off its carebears and drawing back the pvpers, all good untill we have to wait 3 hours for a tradeskiller

[Bushid0]

its a shame the game doesnt seem to be able to retain the people.

its quite sad logging in to only see about 200 people playing.

on the old people coming back ya some have come back :) however some who where here have left.

i also find the game is at times bad performance, like in plaza 1 i hate going there, i wouldnt like to see it if we had 500-700 people playing :eek:

[Darth Slayer]

Ok I never really left tho some did miss me during my 2-3 month absence from Uranus. I went playing Lineage 2 it was at first ok but jeez the grind to get anywhere after lvl 30 was horrerendus. That coupled with the 1/5000000000 chance of anything good dropping of a mob was also an eye opener. Oh and the PVP system was utter crap as well. You could'nt actually kill someone unless they also hit u back. If you where to kill em you became the games best mob for drops. Nothing like losing all that gear you've grinded away for in a flash of temper. Nope Neocron is the game for me and the community for the most part are also pretty cool. Oh and KK fixed Drones finally....... :D

Scorpius.