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I lommed a bit of ppw on my hybrid and put it in mst and got myself a holy lightning. I was so proud of my ultimated energy beam too. Now for those last 7 psi levels... :rolleyes:
Dribble Joy
14-10-04, 22:46
Blessed defence?
PE defense, 56 in ppu for shelter and thats it. My setup kinda depends on a moveon though, which I don't have yet.
edit: As you can see, I have gone even more apu-biased than having a true PE defense would suggest. It's a damn good thing I have dex capped to free up con points. :)
HL hybrids are the win tbh
Dribble Joy
14-10-04, 23:22
Fucking overpowered tbh :p
-=Dredduk=-
14-10-04, 23:24
what dmg on the hl... and can you run cast?
Fucking overpowered tbh :p
LIES!!!!!!!!!! LIES!!!!!!!!!!
and if you hair is like brian mays, get it cut ffs man :p
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what dmg on the hl... and can you run cast? not sure on damage %age but i can run cast
a friend of mine's hybrid caps rof on hl and gets about 470% withou psi, can cast db in pa... even in nc1 without the capped rof it was pretty lethal :D
-=Dredduk=-
14-10-04, 23:31
I been thinking of loming my apu but im not sure if its worth it...
you tried taking out another character yet?
capping ROF is easy, if you have capped intel np, if not taking a drug or 2 to cap it is easy
i love my hl/pe buff hybrid
113/63 says it all tbh
what dmg on the hl... and can you run cast?I can run cast if I'm strafing, if I run in a straight line I fizzle sometimes. I guess that is the hazard of 114 agil and 46 ath. Not to mention I have a stock of whiteflash. :p
-=Dredduk=-
15-10-04, 00:17
so all in all is it worth loming a good apu to hybrid that uses hl?
[TgR]KILLER
15-10-04, 00:28
well as you said you needed 7 more levels.. if you get those in APU i gues runcasting will get there.. and i gues you need a load of int to.. ( my apu just has 5 psi to go but 20 int :p ) so if you get more psu. i gues you can runcast.
Does hyb absolutely need DS?
Haven't heard of ppl talking about their hyb imps much.
[TgR]KILLER
15-10-04, 09:45
well with a hyb you can't realy use any apu or ppu imps imho because they take away the other side so you need more points to get the same.. so best imps ( imho ) would be something like Psi core / DS / exp psi 3 and then maybe moveon for htl / force resist bonus or a exp psi 2
My Hyb doesn`t have DS
But CC`s hyb kicks his ass too ;)
I have been a HL/PE Hyb for quite a while now (4-5 months) and imho the Psi-Attack2 / Blessed S Hybrid is better ... but less fun too ;)
YaY for the HL-Hybrid !
KILLER']well with a hyb you can't realy use any apu or ppu imps imho because they take away the other side so you need more points to get the same..
NOT TRUE !
Putting in a Attack3 chip gives you +15 APU and -20 PPU (iirc)
But since APU is 100+ and PPU is well below 100 it actually DOES MAKE SENSE
Once I get a moveon my imps will be Core/Exp psi 3/Attack 3/MOVEON. I made a setup for Core/DS/MOVEON/PPR but the chances of me getting a DS any time soon are kinda slim.
Original monk
15-10-04, 12:25
Once I get a moveon my imps will be Core/Exp psi 3/Attack 3/MOVEON. I made a setup for Core/DS/MOVEON/PPR but the chances of me getting a DS any time soon are kinda slim.
hanta has core/ds/exp2/exp3 as a blessed hybrid ... no way a apubasedhybrid can stand that much pounding but atleast they can deal a bit more decent damage ... for a apubased hybrid ya yust change the exp2 to an attack3 or sumthing
i never understood why people use ppr's or move-on's in a monk unless its to use a filter2 or sumthing like that ... ok ya get more defense but think about the things ya cant put in lol, them brainslots are holy for monks :)
for more health and force resist(ugh cant actually recall if it gives that) is why
but the extra health is good.
tho i admit im a DS/PC/exp3/apu3
you gain more from having the apu 3 as it frees up more points that you would of put into apu and for a apu based hybrid, the 15 you gain in apu frees up like 30odd points to ppu
so it makes sence.
not played my hybrid much tbh as i forgot to bring all my spells with me :lol:
and cant be arsed going thou the routine of making hundreds just for a slotted spell.
This is why, original (look at armor values) also the health is wrong it would actually be 429 iirc.
Original monk
15-10-04, 13:00
This is why, original (look at armor values) also the health is wrong it would actually be 429 iirc.
intresting indeed, also the glove comes in handy then :) and 429 hp seems more then enough yeah :)
To be honest that setup might have some trouble runcasting but I don't think it would matter much. Then again, there is apu PA to pop on, then you would have runcast heaven. :)
Original monk
15-10-04, 13:09
To be honest that setup might have some trouble runcasting but I don't think it would matter much. Then again, there is apu PA to pop on, then you would have runcast heaven. :)
runcastingbit also answered my next question :) nothing a PA cant fix i see
steweygrrr
15-10-04, 13:16
Why not go for 128 PPU/121 APU, get a PSI 3 and use Holy def, blessed shelter/heal and level 2 buffs. No need for PA arsing about that way and yes you DO need a DS for that setup.
Reliance on external buffs is bad. You're better off with a pure APU and pure PPU if you have a two monk team.
Exactly jernau.
edit: Although, the setup I posted with stewey's suggestion would be just sick with some small con reallocations and a filter heart 2.
edit2: Just checked skillpoints on the skillmanager, you can only get 80mst with that, so scratch that idea.
steweygrrr
15-10-04, 13:55
Reliance on external buffs is bad. You're better off with a pure APU and pure PPU if you have a two monk team.
Way I see it your only gonna be using HL when at an opwar right (or spec one more MST and APU and use FA)? For general PvP and PK you can use DB and holy nrg halo negating the need for any kind of foreign buff.
You can't use HL with 128/121 even with a psi 3, you can only get 80mst with psi3 and HL needs 83mst.
Jesterthegreat
15-10-04, 14:12
NOT TRUE !
Putting in a Attack3 chip gives you +15 APU and -20 PPU (iirc)
But since APU is 100+ and PPU is well below 100 it actually DOES MAKE SENSE
this depends on your setup.
for an APU heavy setup you prolly save points by using an attack chip 3, however for a blessed setup its not a good move
Way I see it your only gonna be using HL when at an opwar right (or spec one more MST and APU and use FA)? For general PvP and PK you can use DB and holy nrg halo negating the need for any kind of foreign buff.
i use HL for pking along with DB depending on what mood im in.
the point of a hybrid is the removal of relaince on extranal buffs.
if your gonna get ppu buffs you might as well just have stayed as apu and have a ppu inserted up your ass
i use HL for pking along with DB depending on what mood im in.
the point of a hybrid is the removal of relaince on extranal buffs.
if your gonna get ppu buffs you might as well just have stayed as apu and have a ppu inserted up your ass
Time to roll a monk.
*Bends over*
steweygrrr
15-10-04, 15:13
You can't use HL with 128/121 even with a psi 3, you can only get 80mst with psi3 and HL needs 83mst.
Tell that to my hybrid.
121 APU/128 PPU MST 63 rest in PPW. Get a PSI 3 for op wars (you won't need more than 2) but holy NRG halo and DB is better for general gankage IMHO, longer ranged and vs an unbuffed target they'll last what 3 seconds longer because you'll have capped ROF on it?
Hmm weird I just checked again and you are right, with a whole 2 points in PPW... wonder why it didn't add up the first time I did it. Oh well, still, relying on foreign buffs is silly, might as well just be an apu.
My personal preference for a hybrid from a purely fun point of view are :
- no PA swapping
- no external buffs
- PE-defense + Heat/Haz 1
- HL
You can do all this easily with either no PA or APU PA 1 or 2. A DS is not critical but it helps. If you get it right you can get PA3 and external buffs at OP fights and be an OK APU there too.
I would definitely use MOVEON/FH2 and/or PPR to boost natural resists. IMO this is the most flexible and fun solo character in NC now.
You won't necessarily excel but you can be part of and enjoy almost any kind of fight. Psi Pool and HL damage aren't very good, especially if you're used to being an APU, but it's worth it to have one of the few non-specialised roles left in NC.
Now the Crahn Glove is in I guess the downsides are much reduced.
steweygrrr
15-10-04, 16:54
Hmm weird I just checked again and you are right, with a whole 2 points in PPW... wonder why it didn't add up the first time I did it. Oh well, still, relying on foreign buffs is silly, might as well just be an apu.
All int in PSU gives you nice RoF and a fairly large pool as a side effect :D
I only use HL in opwars as it's the only time I feel I need it. Other times when I'm on random PvP runs I'll just use holy nrg halo (as I keep saying). In fact... I may bust him down to 122 PPU, just enough for holy def, and bang the rest in PPW
All int in PSU gives you nice RoF and a fairly large pool as a side effect :D
I only use HL in opwars as it's the only time I feel I need it. Other times when I'm on random PvP runs I'll just use holy nrg halo (as I keep saying). In fact... I may bust him down to 122 PPU, just enough for holy def, and bang the rest in PPW
Alright - stop lording it and get back to SWG... Traitor. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, I just traded for a Gaya glove wewt!
So now I can do the PP and BT epics and then beg my ass off for a DS. :D
What is so special about the Holy Energy Halo? Whenever I played a hybrid who used blessed buffs, it did pathetic damage. However when I used PSI Attack 2, I would anihilate nearly anything with full runcast and capped rof. I guess it all comes down to personal preference in the end.
Jesterthegreat
16-10-04, 02:52
What is so special about the Holy Energy Halo? Whenever I played a hybrid who used blessed buffs, it did pathetic damage. However when I used PSI Attack 2, I would anihilate nearly anything with full runcast and capped rof. I guess it all comes down to personal preference in the end.
nope its not poersonal preferance... psi attack 2 does more damage than NRG halo. quite alot more usually.
in the majority of situations (not someone with holy def and no shelt) psi attack 2 is better
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