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whifix
08-10-04, 19:03
So I just got 100CST and I try to build a TL35 blesed deflector. I'm thinking it will come out capped since i have double the TL value in CST but it comes out as 83%. I have a friend who has everything invested into CST so he easily caps it at 94%. Has it always been like this?
MkVenner
08-10-04, 19:06
yeah lol, wait till you wanna make drones lol
SypH
08-10-04, 19:09
afaik the quality will depend on your dex and int lvls as well.
Glok
08-10-04, 19:09
So I just got 100CST and I try to build a TL35 blesed deflector. I'm thinking it will come out capped since i have double the TL value in CST but it comes out as 83%. I have a friend who has everything invested into CST so he easily caps it at 94%. Has it always been like this?Double the TL isn't the way it works. Experiments have shown that with 100 dex and 100 int, you need 110 cst to cap quality on everything you can build (you won't be able to build rare drones obviously). Monks that tested it with 100 int and 35 dex needed 130 cst to cap everything.

I would imagine you are at about 50 int and dex? so you won't cap anything until you get about 140 cst or so. Of course as your main stats go up you will need less to cap quality, but it is a good idea to have 150ish cst anyways, because most runners are obsessed with high cst skill and you won't get any business otherwise.
MrChumble
08-10-04, 19:12
Yes, is the short answer.

Ressing isn't too bad for newbies, but CSTing is a total bitch. You need high int and dex and cst skill just to get decent stats on very newbie items. It's been like that as long as I can remember. I thought this was why KK removed WPs from the shops - to give noobs something to build and sell - but since they're back in everywhere I guess not. Traditional leveling is the only thing you can do til you get to 50 or so int.

Edit: as Glok says the trade off is that you don't need much to cap, 150 or so (compared to about 230 for research). Many people are obsessed with getting 200+ csters, but the only difference is a fraction of percent change to slot chances.
Spoon
08-10-04, 19:13
Anyone got a link or info on weapon TL stats cap?

Is 87% cap on a TL 84 weapon?

I searched for a link but couldn't find one...
whifix
08-10-04, 19:15
Ya I'm actually going from a dedicated researcher to a researcher/constructor. I have 82 INT and 21DEX so that might explain it. This is a dedicated tradeskiller and has so far only leveled by researching and reserach missions.
Glok
08-10-04, 19:16
Is 87% cap on a TL 84 weapon?I would imagine it is, because an energy beam TL87 stats cap is 86%.
thebee
08-10-04, 19:25
Check out my post here...

http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=113872

its about being a constructor researcher. i end with 140 Base CST and 100 Base RES.

With Gloves, Imps (no MC5), boost (only const boost 1), i can get 200 CST/114 RES or 170 CST/144 RES depending on what you have chips and glove you are wearing.

then if you need to build a rare or res a rare...going to a friendly outpost would give you +25 to +50 in either one. So its totally viable to become a good CST RES Spy. Then throw recycling into that and you become Uber
notneo
08-10-04, 20:00
capp for all weapons if you got the skill =94%

this does not include rares wich have there own formulas

my constructor has 196 skill 93 int and 80 dex .seems to be ok
Richard Blade
08-10-04, 20:26
capp for all weapons if you got the skill =94%

this does not include rares wich have there own formulas

my constructor has 196 skill 93 int and 80 dex .seems to be ok

You might want to double check your build qualities.
You can have 230 construction skill and still not get 94% on a TL 87 item. As they said earlier, it caps quality at about 86%. The 94% cap ends around TL 76. I don't have the exact figure because I'm at work. But, after around TL70 the quality cap starts going down.

As for the original poster, a few people have answered your question. I don't have anything to add to it other than, Happy Building!
whifix
08-10-04, 20:43
Wow so if someone has enough INT+DEX+CST they can get 94% on a like TL 100+ non rare?

//edit//
just saw richard's posting.
Glok
08-10-04, 20:56
The 94% cap ends around TL 76. I don't have the exact figure because I'm at work. But, after around TL70 the quality cap starts going down.It's TL50. A stat capped TL51 item will have 93% quality and it gradually goes down from there.
Richard Blade
08-10-04, 23:28
It's TL50. A stat capped TL51 item will have 93% quality and it gradually goes down from there.

Thanks Glok.
I've either been building items way above that, or using a noob constructor and not up to that point yet. Anothers words, it's been too long since I built a mid 50's level item. :)