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only really thought about this today coz of the servers been down and not having anything else to do but think.
when nc2 comes out and all anti city is doy, and all pro city is nc, where will people fight other than mb/op wars and raids on the 2 cities?
im all for raiding nc or doy but it seems pretty dull that once you all group up to attack nc/doy and get owned in 2mins you unsure what to next :lol:
i was thinkin that maybe a zone should be put somewhere for fights/duels.
most of the people who pvp on uranus spend most of the time zoning in and out of p3 and pp1 lol.
so, once nc2 is here im worred that those people will not want to participate in PvP :(
and we will just be left with op wars, which will also lack pvp coz a large ammount of the community is going to doy.
anyone think we should have a place that has got a safezone and a anarchy/ war zone next to it, where there are no faction guards or copbots???
or is it just me?
anyone think we should have a place that has got a safezone and a anarchy/ war zone next to it, where there are no faction guards or copbots???
or is it just me?
Only if there was some kind of venture warp to get in/out to stop the zoneline camping.
Mumblyfish
24-09-04, 18:31
There is a zone for fights and duels. Several, actually. Neofrag, and whatever the Dome of "what's 'running water'?" has as an equivalent. And a safezone with a fighting zone right outside would be another Pepper Park... and that's a bad idea. Zonewhoring is so something Jesus wouldn't do.
ONOES POISONEDED!
*Runs to zone lines*
HAR PHEAR ME I R L33t!
Those guys suck.
TBH
THE_TICK!!!!
24-09-04, 18:43
there will be pvp everywhere is what im thinkin...should be fun..watch yourself when you hunt :) wahoooo gank fest !!
they should fucking make a neofrag building somewhere at MB or in the wastelands.. how lame is it that you cant duel anti city peeps anymore like NC1, unless they have a ppu to escort em to pp1 NF.. so gay
edit: o wait, they can goto the NF in pp3.. DURRRRRRRRRRRR :angel:
it is true that enemies will now be further apart then usual, yet another thing KK havnt thought through :p
Mumblyfish
24-09-04, 19:09
it is true that enemies will now be further apart then usual, yet another thing KK havnt thought through :p
That's called "a good thing". Fighting in Neocron shouldn't be 24/7.
it is true that enemies will now be further apart then usual, yet another thing KK havnt thought through :p
Yeah but you know exacally where to find a shit load of them.
Yeah but you know exacally where to find a shit load of them.
true but no more usual go into pepper park if you fancy a quick fight, now its get a small army ready to raid doy or visa versa :p
there will be pvp everywhere is what im thinkin...should be fun..watch yourself when you hunt :) wahoooo gank fest !!
or we get ppl taking over zones and killing anything without an LE in regardless of rank :(
shakari ppl already do it and on saturn faction dont care aswell
and i think pp3 will be something like pp1
look what you made me do, you made me drop my bag of taaaaaaaaaterchips all ove the floor.. damn you... damn you all to hell!
ONOES POISONEDED!
*Runs to zone lines*
HAR PHEAR ME I R L33t!
Those guys suck.
TBH
^^ thats what i mean too, but most of the people on uranus dont wanna fight unless they know they can run back into a safezone so the PvP will die pretty quick. i dont know about other servers coz in the time ive been playing i never tried any server other than uranus coz im sad i guess :lol:
RogerRamjet
25-09-04, 12:02
I havent fought since an APU - PPU team came into to kill my PE. Whats up with that. Im not even good.
Well, you will probably find people congregating (sp?) around the major hunting areas like:
MB
TG Caves
Catlock Bay Caves
CRP
El Farid
Graves
Battle Dome (and surrounding WB sectors)
And I am sure if you want to fight somewhere you can just shout over Trade/OOC that you are looking for challangers in [insert sector].
Keyol45743241
25-09-04, 13:05
anyone think we should have a place that has got a safezone and a anarchy/ war zone next to it, where there are no faction guards or copbots???No.
or is it just me?Yes.
Synclaming is the most annoying thing... go to NF if you want to 'duell'
bleh to the zonewhoresAmen to that, brother....
No.
Yes.
Synclaming is the most annoying thing... go to NF if you want to 'duell'
Amen to that, brother....
*cough read all of the thead cough* if you read the thread you would see that i said uranus has the problem of synlamers and most of them dont wana pvp unless there is a safezone to run to.
plz read the thread fully next time :rolleyes:
Richard Slade
25-09-04, 16:49
I'm all for adding little 'venture warps inte the both cities that take you to only one place, THE ARENA.
Costs 4,000 cr to get in
Can't get there by other means than the warps, one zone, building complex (inside) and there's only two ways out..
Being the last man in there you will be auto teleported to your apt, with 10% of the days income...
The other one doesn't involve survival.....
unless they sort out FPS issues with neocron 2 wont find my tank fighting anywhere.
so far in NC2 beta, think ive had about 7 or 8 fights, now only lost 1 due to being zerged(3spies 2 ppu 2 tanks rofl) but in every fight, its been crap cos getting so low frames you miss to often, its like ive had the skill taken out of my hands and given luck instead.
i was trying to kill a bio yesterday in PP3 he decided to run instead of fight, i open fire, hit first shot, then due to terrible fps i proceed to miss shot after shot, eventually managed 2 hits on the row to take him down.
later was on my 0/2 pro city noob(called wuwu kims for all you fans of the name filter :p )watching a fight in plaza 1 and was getting between 1 and 15 fps.
sure the pvp looked good fun, but noway i can participate init with the way the game is right now.
its like KK are trying to force me out of the game by making it impossible for me to play :(
I'm all for adding little 'venture warps inte the both cities that take you to only one place, THE ARENA.
Costs 4,000 cr to get in
Can't get there by other means than the warps, one zone, building complex (inside) and there's only two ways out..
Being the last man in there you will be auto teleported to your apt, with 10% of the days income...
The other one doesn't involve survival.....
Hmm... you warp into the ARENA, where alot of people are fighting you can't get out and everyone just shooting around untill everyone is dead?
^^
I'm all for adding little 'venture warps inte the both cities that take you to only one place, THE ARENA.
Costs 4,000 cr to get in
Can't get there by other means than the warps, one zone, building complex (inside) and there's only two ways out..
Being the last man in there you will be auto teleported to your apt, with 10% of the days income...
The other one doesn't involve survival.....
thats actually a really kool idea, i wish it would happen. nothing more irratating that fighting the same person in pp for an hour coz they keep zoning or using alt and f4
thats actually a really kool idea, i wish it would happen. nothing more irratating that fighting the same person in pp for an hour coz they keep zoning or using alt and f4
Would be cool, but if you warp into the ARENA and there is already 5-6 people fighting it would be a chaos.
Richard Slade
25-09-04, 16:56
Hmm... you warp into the ARENA, where alot of people are fighting you can't get out and everyone just shooting around untill everyone is dead?
^^
Exactly :D
But thing about the $$$ if there's a total of 10000 entries a day (yes people can and WILL go in there more than once)
That's 4milliong bucksa just for having pure pvp fun all day long!
Would be cool, but if you warp into the ARENA and there is already 5-6 people fighting it would be a chaos.
yeah, a good chaos, everyone's firing at everyone, and of course, sl and symps aren't hurt by any of this so... who cares, last man standing!
Would be cool, but if you warp into the ARENA and there is already 5-6 people fighting it would be a chaos.
lol just got a vision of 30 ppu's and spies hackin all the belts :lol:
Exactly :D
But thing about the $$$ if there's a total of 10000 entries a day (yes people can and WILL go in there more than once)
That's 4milliong bucksa just for having pure pvp fun all day long!
Me and my obliterator will get rich. ;)
Exactly :D
But thing about the $$$ if there's a total of 10000 entries a day (yes people can and WILL go in there more than once)
That's 4milliong bucksa just for having pure pvp fun all day long!
yeah, a good chaos, everyone's firing at everyone, and of course, sl and symps aren't hurt by any of this so... who cares, last man standing!
Hehe, ye it could be fun, and if you don't know what to do, fill you tank whit cs ammo, warp and shoot everywhere ^^
Richard Slade
25-09-04, 17:02
Me and my obliterator will get rich. ;)
Three words: Fifty Fire Barrels
No you won't
You and your oblit will be very very poor if yer too stubborn ;)
Me and my obliterator will get rich. ;)
You think dude, if you are in stealth a cs hurts you, 3-4 tanks shooting everywhere dont think so.
lol just got a vision of 30 ppu's and spies hackin all the belts :lol:
No ppu :p only fighthing chars allowed, and no belt dropping.
No ppu :p only fighthing chars allowed, and no belt dropping.[/QUOTE]
i like that idea
i like that idea
Yeah, if they make like this; if the amount of PPU is higher then the APU you cant acces it. I know for sure I would go tooooooo the THE ARENA ;)
Richard Slade
25-09-04, 17:07
PPUs allowed IMO, they will be so insanely gangbanged because noone can stand having them there.
And of course, no belt drop..
However armor weapons and imps will get a mighty punch from a full day of work.. ;)
PPUs allowed IMO, they will be so insanely gangbanged because noone can stand having them there.
And of course, no belt drop..
However armor weapons and imps will get a mighty punch from a full day of work.. ;)
I disagree whit PPU allowed, I like to go to PP and fight but when there is a PPU its stupid you dont have any chance if the PPU runs in your enemys ass all the time. I don't know if you fight alot at PP but go there whit a tank and there is another tank + ppu, guess who wins :(
PPUs allowed IMO, they will be so insanely gangbanged because noone can stand having them there.
And of course, no belt drop..
However armor weapons and imps will get a mighty punch from a full day of work.. ;)
Thats what I was thinking. Say you had 10 people fighting in there, and a PPU warps in. Now all of them know for a fact that they can't take the PPU down if they were the only one there. So they would all gank the PPU and eventually the PPU would drop.
The problem would come if a GM entered with god mode on :lol:
A real life Neofrag (warzone = no symp/sl/belt drop) accessable from special venture warps in TH seems like a good idea.
Thats what I was thinking. Say you had 10 people fighting in there, and a PPU warps in. Now all of them know for a fact that they can't take the PPU down if they were the only one there. So they would all gank the PPU and eventually the PPU would drop.
The problem would come if a GM entered with god mode on :lol:
10 Tanks ganking a ppu in a little arena, if you know how to PPU you will run all the time and it would be hard to get couse there is the other 9 Tanks, pe or what so ever.. so you wouldn't have the aim on the ppu all the time.
Clownst0pper
25-09-04, 17:13
jeriko fight cage is pretty funky.
Personally ill try and drag aload of fights to pepper park 3, its such a better place to fight in.
jeriko fight cage is pretty funky.
Personally ill try and drag aload of fights to pepper park 3, its such a better place to fight in.
If you like the cage you will like the Arena to ;)
Clownst0pper
25-09-04, 17:17
If you like the cage you will like the Arena to ;)
I probably only liked the cage so much because I was on either Koro or Kaolin, both close quarter fighters, sorta gaurneteed a win every time :lol:
Arena? do tell...
jeriko fight cage is pretty funky.
Personally ill try and drag aload of fights to pepper park 3, its such a better place to fight in.
The idea is to have a safe place to meet, talk and challenge people, including enemies, to a real life fight without the ability to zonewhore. The no sl/symp/belt drop is important too.
Clownst0pper
25-09-04, 17:21
The idea is to have a safe place to meet, talk and challenge people, including enemies, to a real life fight without the ability to zonewhore. The no sl/symp/belt drop is important too.
It should be neofrag, but it hasnt been fixed, so just go to jankins, best dueling place ever that op.
Richard Slade
25-09-04, 17:21
Arena? do tell...
Read the bloody thread :wtf:
Also, the zone would be as big as any, just to give riflers a little chance, this and manylevels (hotel building kinda) would make it nice for everyone :D
Clownst0pper
25-09-04, 17:23
Also, the zone would be as big as any, just to give riflers a little chance, this and manylevels (hotel building kinda) would make it nice for everyone :D
Thats the thing, ive never liked such ideas as its so...regimented.
Id rather see complete new maps in Neofrag, big big urban, almost tribes like Neofrag maps.
Oh and bug free!
It should be neofrag, but it hasnt been fixed, so just go to jankins, best dueling place ever that op.
The idea is to have a real life fight, not a simulated one. Read the thread.
EDIT:
Read the bloody thread :wtf:
I want to emphasize this again. Don't start posting in a thread asking what has already been stated, that's just lazy.
Clownst0pper
25-09-04, 17:26
The idea is to have a real life fight, not a simulated one. Read the thread.
I was thinkin that maybe a zone should be put somewhere for fights/duels.
most of the people who pvp on uranus spend most of the time zoning in and out of p3 and pp1 lol.
Tell me if im wrong, but what is the difference between counting 5,4,3,2,1 go!
or, going into a specific warzone and fighting?
I just cant understand the purpose... just go and cause a random OP war or Free for alls somewhere..
Mumblyfish
25-09-04, 17:31
Warzones, zones near the enemy city's entrance, ASGs and overcamped levelling areas. All much better for GOOD PvP than Pepper Shit ever was. Sorry, I mean Pepper Arse. Pepper Gay. Pepper Wank. I give up.
Keyol45743241
25-09-04, 17:31
*cough read all of the thead cough* if you read the thread you would see that i said uranus has the problem of synlamers and most of them dont wana pvp unless there is a safezone to run to.
plz read the thread fully next time :rolleyes:I had read it all and my opinion stands. It is just you. Synclaming isn't fun at all, especially not for those who live nearby and might have to cross that sector to get into their appartments.
The removal of the safezones has partly been done to PREVENT synclaming. What you propose is promoting synclaming sissies. They can't fight without a safezone to run to? Alt PPU standing on the other side, buffing everybody when alt tabbing? I refuse to feel sorry for those pussies who simply suck at PvP, but wanna gank - thus they abuse game mechanics to get an advantage....
Nope, they won't, not for very much longer :D Either win or loose, but the 24/7 synclaming galore *will* stop. Eventually.
Clownst0pper
25-09-04, 17:33
I read it all and still, my opinion stands. It is just you. Synclaming isn't fun at all, especially not for those who live nearby and might have to cross that sector to get into their appartments.
The removal of the safezones has partly been done to PREVENT synclaming. What you propose is promoting synclaming sissies. They can't fight without a safezone to run to? Alt PPU standing on the other side, buffing everybody when alt tabbing? I refuse to feel sorry for those pussies who a) simply suck at PvP, but wanna gank - thus they abuse game mechanics to get an advantage....
Nope, they won't, not for very much longer :D Either win or loose, but the 24/7 synclaming galore *will* stop. Eventually.
you know what I hate, when people sync escape.
So there getting pwned, they zone over, hit escape, and they warp to reset position, it needs fixing soooooooooooo badly.
As it stands though, I cant w8 to fight those who need to zone constantly, be a harsh wakeup call.
Read the thread.
We are now talking about a new feature called "the arena", not the old pepper park.
Read the thread.
Read the thread.
Read the thread.
Clownst0pper
25-09-04, 17:36
Read the thread.
We are now talking about a new feature called "the arena", not the old pepper park.
Read the thread.
Read the thread.
Read the thread.
I have
I have
I have
I have
and all im seeing, is someone wanting a new "secure" place to fight without copbots or syncing, which again, is a warzone basically
and all im seeing, is someone wanting a new "secure" place to fight without copbots or syncing, which again, is a warzone basically
It's a warzone next to a safe zone without the ability to zonewhore and where you also can meet reds which is impossible in NC2.
Mumblyfish
25-09-04, 17:42
Also, an "arena" wouldn't make any kind of roleplay sense, unless it was some place hidden deep in the wastelands, with some kind of magical mystery coding to allow for nothing but organised matches. I'll repeat what Clowno's saying...
They're called warzones. In much the same way the boring community relocated to Plaza 2 after the guards patch, the boring community can quickly find some kind of universal "dueling" warzone.
Edit: And meeting hostiles in any kind of social environment shouldn't be possible, unless turncoats are involved.
Clownst0pper
25-09-04, 17:42
It's a warzone next to a safe zone without the ability to zonewhore and where you also can meet reds which is impossible in NC2.
A warzone next to a safe zone...ok...
without the ability to zonewhore...ok...
and where I can also meet reds...ok...
which is impossible in NC2...ok...
That makes zero sense. Someone clue me up what this guys on about! :confused:
Also, an "arena" wouldn't make any kind of roleplay sense, unless it was some place hidden deep in the wastelands, with some kind of magical mystery coding to allow for nothing but organised matches. I'll repeat what Clowno's saying...
They're called warzones. In much the same way the boring community relocated to Plaza 2 after the guards patch, the boring community can quickly find some kind of universal "dueling" warzone.
Thankyou, someone with game experiance.
As it stands on saturn, Jankins is a huge OP to scuffle with anyone, the same for jeriko.
It will take time but a place will be found where a fight is gaurenteed without zone whoring
Keyol45743241
25-09-04, 17:58
It's a warzone next to a safe zone without the ability to zonewhore and where you also can meet reds which is impossible in NC2.An arena? To duel? Without synclaming? Without Copbots to shoot you? Where you meet 'reds'.... like.. the Battledome? :wtf::lol:
Hey, they even have a sync to almost any safezone you enjoy, even with an inbuilt feature which prevents synclaming! You get something called 'synaptic impairment' :eek: when you use it! :rolleyes:
Agreed, it's not a warzone, but who intends to shoot friendlies anyways? If you really, really have to, just move a sector south. :rolleyes: On the other hand... you could do the same in every warzone you agree upon, just without the fancy arena thingy... ;)
Gnaw, the whole logic is faulty. People won't go to a place you propose. People don't go to the PP because there are people who want to do pvp (and those who don't want to get shot anyways), but because they can sync to safety there! In a place you propose, they could die. They should do a Neofrag map called 'Pepper Park'.... Nobody to gank? Or annoy? Nah, sorry, plain boring for those sissies. And I enjoy them being afraid.... :D
i was thinkin that maybe a zone should be put somewhere for fights/duels.
well the community can always agree upon a zone to fight in make it the new pp without the zoning yay preferably a zone with a grep nearby thats open
any suggestions ?
Keyol45743241
25-09-04, 18:38
sollig, that's the problem. People don't agree on PvP like it was in PP. They went there because they could synclame there. For christs sake, even in Beta4 the PP was synclame galore.... There ARE zones for consentual PvP aka duels. Either go for Neofrag or use the Battledome. Then, there is the Arena in the OZ Jail Club. And those areas were available long before nc2 and still unused, except for maybe an event or two.
People don't want fair duels. They want to be able to gank the enemy and grief them, preferably due to ultra lame abuse of sucky game mechanics (aka sync). Whatever sector you propose, unless you can abuse some game mechanics or grief your opposition, it won't be populated. Rather they will go "lololololo pwnzorz yuo" when they snipe you while you wait for a challenge. :rolleyes:
No, I am not sorry for them. They don't want to do any more PvP? Good! Lets just hope they quit NC, too.....
People will probably start fighting in the TH Reactor Cores now. It fits the usual qualifications. ;)
Keyol45743241
25-09-04, 18:45
People will probably start fighting in the TH Reactor Cores now. It fits the usual qualifications. ;)Isn't it a hunting ground?
And besides..: Nobody has to go down there to get to their appartment, you can fall to your death and you can't get up to the sync quickly... So, no quick synclaming, nobody to annoy.... won't be fun :angel:
shakari ppl already do it and on saturn faction dont care aswell
and i think pp3 will be something like pp1
only in PP and thats less than usefull really!
not in every zone like is capable in NC 2
so my comment is valid
It's a warzone next to a safe zone without the ability to zonewhore and where you also can meet reds which is impossible in NC2.
at least somebody gets the idea
warzones = good: obvious reason
anarchy zones = good: see above
safezones = bad: makes people zonewhores
but the "no zoning for a set time" rule would work well if they can get it to go...
while i like hte new setup I just dunt like how everything is so far these days... I had to use 10k on venture warp to get to jeriko in beta... (yeah i know i could walk but i'm too lazy... plus i'm an apu monkey w/o a ppu up my bum so i'm flat outta luck there...)
Mumblyfish
26-09-04, 20:37
while i like hte new setup I just dunt like how everything is so far these days... I had to use 10k on venture warp to get to jeriko in beta... (yeah i know i could walk but i'm too lazy... plus i'm an apu monkey w/o a ppu up my bum so i'm flat outta luck there...)
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