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its a loaf of shite, ive just spent 2 hours trying to neocron from MB through hacknet, what a joke, for starters, rank 60 mobs i have to walk past on my level 0/2 char, and die, secondly the damn sliding around when you walk, third, the impossible navagation, i went from MB dns, to nc travel 8, then 7, then 6 then some outpost, from then on there was no other way i could find to get to neocron 5, at all.
and another problem, death by falling, how am i meant to enjoy myself and explore with my proper char when if i fall i die and all imps fall out etc, its a joke.
ive died 16 times trying to get in.
Well I have yet to try hacknet but I guess its meant to be hard as for sliding around that sounds bad :\
VVerevvolf
06-09-04, 22:07
You are complaing about the fact that a 0/2 char with 50 hacking dies in hacknet easily and so cannot travel across the worldmap in no time?! O_o
This is by far the most amusing thread I've seen today :lol: :lol: :lol:
You are complaing about the fact that a 0/2 char with 50 hacking dies in hacknet easily and so cannot travel across the worldmap in no time?! O_o
This is by far the most amusing thread I've seen today :lol: :lol: :lol:
O_o
i mean, no newbs can expect to know it, and in the case of traveling from MB to nc through worldmap, tried that a million times as well, its just annoying how you can get so far then keep your finger on forward for just half a second to long, you slide off the edge and die when you hit the ground.
Well i can get anywhere pretty fast through hacknet, and i like that sliding! :D
sanityislost
06-09-04, 22:25
use crouch....stops u faster
SiL ..:..
Yeh fall damage can be a bit of a bitch, perhaps it'll be removed in Beta, has their been any official word on it?
Haven't tried hacknet yet, but jeez.. if a 0/2 could safely explore the entire content of the game, there wouldn't be a great deal of point leveling would there? (besides pvp - and some of us believe there's more to the game than that)
Kal
Hacknet is incomplete - much is still to come.
It's not going to be easy without having to tag GRs when it's complete.
As for fall damage, that has only just been introduced and needs tweaking.
Athon Solo
it would be nice to at least make fighting the mobs etc optional, not having to basically walk through them to get past, noone ever told me hacknet was made for higher level chars only.
Don't take on level 60 mobs as a 0/2 noob. Don't fall off (although I agree that falling damage is daft and a really ugly solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist).
As for navigation...travel zones link uplinks, NC, DoY, TH & MB. OPs branch off the uplinks. There really isn't anything more to it than that.
it would be nice to at least make fighting the mobs etc optional, not having to basically walk through them to get past, noone ever told me hacknet was made for higher level chars only.
It's not, it's just that noobs die if they move around too much :p
Really it's high level content and a vehicle for OP warring, not for travel. You can travel through it, but that's not what it's for really. Go get a high level char and hack some Faction databases :D
Don't take on level 60 mobs as a 0/2 noob. Don't fall off (although I agree that falling damage is daft and a really ugly solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist).
As for navigation...travel zones link uplinks, NC, DoY, TH & MB. OPs branch off the uplinks. There really isn't anything more to it than that.
how can i not take on level 60 mobs when there on every corner i have to walk past, ive been killed about 10 times when ive walked past (thats right walked, in nc2 now it seems every hit you take it hits your legs and you walk incredibly slowly) its hit me, then followed me until i died.
It was made clear to me that hacknet was for higher level characters, maybe i am being to perceptive, i don't think a 0/2 newb should have the priviledges of using hacknet tbh. I think to call something in beta with a day of experience under your belt "shit" is a bit wrong.
You can fight the mobs, but as a noob hacker you are supposed to level in the infected storages in your own factions DNS. As i understand it 60/60 mobs in hacknet are supposed to be really dangerous when it's done.
There's a map over the hacknet someware, it's not that confusing when you get to know how it works.
its a loaf of shite, ive just spent 2 hours trying to neocron from MB through hacknet, what a joke, for starters, rank 60 mobs i have to walk past on my level 0/2 char, and die,
I'm sorry... you're surprised that you die running past 60/60 mobs? Why are you trying to get across the map as a 0/2 in hacknets equivalent of the wastelands?
secondly the damn sliding around when you walk, third, the impossible navagation, i went from MB dns, to nc travel 8, then 7, then 6 then some outpost, from then on there was no other way i could find to get to neocron 5, at all.
Once you understand how it fits together its not that hard to navigate at all. Basically, you just have to remember out in the wastelands that NC/DoY travels connect to uplink outposts, which then connect out to the closeby outposts.
and another problem, death by falling, how am i meant to enjoy myself and explore with my proper char when if i fall i die and all imps fall out etc, its a joke.
ive died 16 times trying to get in.
As for that, its not fully implemented yet, so chill.
There will be 120/120 mobs in Hacknet eventually. No 0/2 noob will be able to traverse it.
It does have serious advantages though. Once your good at it, you can steal faction equiptment and items. You exit Gene Replicators with No Synaptic Imparement. etc.
hacknet is easy and cool i dont htink its that hard
and whats with the mods editing the title?
GO GO PROFESSIONALISM!
Mumblyfish
06-09-04, 23:05
Hey guys... I can't get my 0/2 newbie to the end of the Chaos Caves. The mobs are all, like 60/60+. What's up with that?
Hacknet is an advanced character's playground, once you leave the safety of your faction's DNS. Of course you shouldn't be able to use it as cheap-and-easy transport on your newbie. Oh, and Hacknet is really easy to navigate... maybe you just haven't found the pattern yet? It really is just a simple case of A -> B.
and whats with the mods editing the title?
GO GO PROFESSIONALISM!
Maybe your title was inappropriate? I don't know, I didn't see it.
Hey guys... I can't get my 0/2 newbie to the end of the Chaos Caves. The mobs are all, like 60/60+. What's up with that?
Hacknet is an advanced character's playground, once you leave the safety of your faction's DNS. Of course you shouldn't be able to use it as cheap-and-easy transport on your newbie. Oh, and Hacknet is really easy to navigate... maybe you just haven't found the pattern yet? It really is just a simple case of A -> B.
Maybe your title was inappropriate? I don't know, I didn't see it.
i said how shit can hacknet get
well noones ever told me its for high ranking players only, if it its thats pritty shit and unfair for newbies.
Doc Holliday
06-09-04, 23:09
Do u take a fucking noob in the chaos caves??
i rest my case. ( i have not downloaded beta. i dont currently have the client or the patience to do it off of shittorrent and am hopeing a reasonable mirror becomes available or i will be waiting for the proper released version. this is all fyi before the flames )
and whats with the mods editing the title?
GO GO PROFESSIONALISM!
More like them flagging you down as ignorant.
TBH hacknet should be an advanced playground. Think about it, its a computer network. You must have some knowledge of it in order to use it (in the form of HCK points in this case). Obviously a low level shouldn't be able to use it properly.
And if you run into 60/60 mobs, why do you feel its unfair just because a 0/2 n00b can't get passed. Do you see people bitching in the forums about not being able to kill a Laucher Cyclops with a 0/2 n00b? I think not.
Do u take a fucking noob in the chaos caves??
i rest my case. ( i have not downloaded beta. i dont currently have the client or the patience to do it off of shittorrent and am hopeing a reasonable mirror becomes available or i will be waiting for the proper released version. this is all fyi before the flames )
well hacknet can be used for transportation, maybe if all the mobs etc were in the databases where the info etc is held, which hacknet is partially made for, or mobs only attack hostile factions in a certain area (for example packets and mobs inside the CM dns attack players hostile to CM)
mods close your productivly titled thread, obviously people are to dumb to understand what im talking about.
mods close your productivly titled thread, obviously people are to dumb to understand what im talking about.
Or more correctly, you are too dumb to understand what you are talking about.
HackNet is a network. On every network, you have packets going backwards and forwards. Every so on they will "collide". This is simulated in HackNet with the "mobs" attacking you. Ergo, HackNet is actually quite realistic, and I would like to see how it turns out when it is completed.
Or more correctly, you are too dumb to understand what you are talking about.
HackNet is a netowork. On every network, you have packets going backwards and forward. Every so on they will "collide". This is simulated in HackNet with the "mobs" attacking you. Ergo, HackNet is actually quite realistic, and I would like to see how it turns out when it is completed.
how can walking through cyberspace be realistic?
well ive never seen a mention of it being a place for high levels only, and for being such a huge network its a bit of a waste to catagorise it to those who are higher levels.
how can walking through cyberspace be realistic?
well ive never seen a mention of it being a place for high levels only, and for being such a huge network its a bit of a waste to catagorise it to those who are higher levels.
Realistic in the sense its a network, with packets, servers, uplinks and bridges. Someone said about leveling in the infected places, try that.
Realistic in the sense its a network, with packets, servers, uplinks and bridges. Someone said about leveling in the infected places, try that.
point is though i got hack so i could use hacknet to get to neocron by traveling through it, not to know id die 16 times, mainly by falling off the edge, the mobs didnt bother me that much, only died about 5 or 6 times. and when some floor your walking on in hacknet is transparent in some parts i end up walking off the edge
how can walking through cyberspace be realistic?
well ive never seen a mention of it being a place for high levels only, and for being such a huge network its a bit of a waste to catagorise it to those who are higher levels.
It's not necessarily for high level players. Just not for 0/2 newb characters.
point is though i got hack so i could use hacknet to get to neocron by traveling through it, not to know id die 16 times, mainly by falling off the edge, the mobs didnt bother me that much, only died about 5 or 6 times. and when some floor your walking on in hacknet is transparent in some parts i end up walking off the edge
It really sucks when your data packet gets lost in a section of the network that's not working properly. Nothing to do but kill the packet and try sending it again. :p
Come on you must realise how silly you're being. You'd be as well demanding a 0/2 can kill the commander and get MC5 chips!
It's not necessarily for high level players. Just not for 0/2 newb characters.
i would of rather of gotten to neocron to find teams to level with then MB where most levelling places are deserted apart from the odd one or two, im more concentrating on the hazards that are falling etc.
sanityislost
06-09-04, 23:32
each faction has leveling areas for newbies who want to be a pure hacker an
level by doing so. hacknet should not be an easy ride for player to get from
point A to point B cause then it would make other parts of the game obsolete
btw this post sounds too normal to be done by me........i think ive been taken
over by ghosts who play nc....oh fuck
SiL ..:..
i would of rather of gotten to neocron to find teams to level with then MB where most levelling places are deserted apart from the odd one or two, im more concentrating on the hazards that are falling etc.
City Mercs faction is intended for experienced players. It's not meant to be easy to level there, and it's sure as hell not meant to be easy to leave MB. Why do you think the epic makes such a big deal over how dangerous the wastes are and the fact they're sending you all the way to Neocron?*
*although by the time anyone gets to this part they've got every NC gr tagged already, but the point remains :D
It really sucks when your data packet gets lost in a section of the network that's not working properly. Nothing to do but kill the packet and try sending it again. :p
And if too many people target one of the major mainframes, we could end up with a DoS attack, lol! Get a load of people, you could try a Smurf attack too. Sounds like HackNet could be quite interesting to play around in when its ready.
He must be just baiting, coz no-ones that fucken dumb,....... are they ?
City Mercs faction is intended for experienced players. It's not meant to be easy to level there, and it's sure as hell not meant to be easy to leave MB. Why do you think the epic makes such a big deal over how dangerous the wastes are and the fact they're sending you all the way to Neocron?*
*although by the time anyone gets to this part they've got every NC gr tagged already, but the point remains :D
looking at city mercs being neutral to EVERY faction apart from TG, doesnt seem the faction for experienced players to me.
Mumblyfish
06-09-04, 23:39
looking at city mercs being neutral to EVERY faction apart from TG, doesnt seem the faction for experienced players to me.
Lessee, neutral to everyone bar TG... no natural allies, and everyone can kill you without a hit to faction sympathy. Oh, and you'll be stuck right in the middle of pro/anti-city war, having to fend off both sides at once. Yep, sounds easy to me!
Lessee, neutral to everyone bar TG... no natural allies, and everyone can kill you without a hit to faction sympathy. Oh, and you'll be stuck right in the middle of pro/anti-city war, having to fend off both sides at once. Yep, sounds easy to me!
at least im not an instant threat to anyone and i have the options of both cities and MB.
Mumblyfish
06-09-04, 23:47
at least im not an instant threat to anyone and i have the options of both cities and MB.
Not really an instant threat as such, but any dabble in politics can get you insta-fucked on both sides. I'll never be a Merc (bar switching there to do their Epic quest), but it sounds pretty difficult to me.
Shadow Dancer
06-09-04, 23:53
You are complaing about the fact that a 0/2 char with 50 hacking dies in hacknet easily and so cannot travel across the worldmap in no time?! O_o
This is by far the most amusing thread I've seen today :lol: :lol: :lol:
Heh, Crazy werewolf is right. I was thinking the same thing. The only thing I hate about hacknet is how "tight" the pathways are.
I don't see the problem with sliding either. You move extremely fast and with some practise can race across hacknet without falling.
Heh, Crazy werewolf is right. I was thinking the same thing. The only thing I hate about hacknet is how "tight" the pathways are.
I don't see the problem with sliding either. You move extremely fast and with some practise can race across hacknet without falling.
Making me jealous now. Got another 90% to go of my last file till I can try hacknet out :(
ignore crazy he's quitting anyway so is just bitter that he can't conquer mc5 on a 0/2 noob because the dmg of a stileto is too low
ignore crazy he's quitting anyway so is just bitter that he can't conquer mc5 on a 0/2 noob because the dmg of a stileto is too low
i dont like inbred on my thread shoo!
**gets popcorn**
gonna share that?
edit: I also intended to add; both sides of this are on the same level here.
pot kettle black
holy shit i expected something more then that.
its a loaf of shite, ive just spent 2 hours trying to neocron from MB through hacknet, what a joke, for starters, rank 60 mobs i have to walk past on my level 0/2 char, and die, secondly the damn sliding around when you walk, third, the impossible navagation, i went from MB dns, to nc travel 8, then 7, then 6 then some outpost, from then on there was no other way i could find to get to neocron 5, at all.
and another problem, death by falling, how am i meant to enjoy myself and explore with my proper char when if i fall i die and all imps fall out etc, its a joke.
ive died 16 times trying to get in.Most stupid thread in a loooong long time. :)
So, we've established "wah wah wah, I'm not getting my way and I'm going to bitch about it" - is there anything else you'd like to spend a dozen posts establishing?
thats all his capable of i think
trigger hurt
07-09-04, 01:27
Just to rub salt in crazy's wounds. With the help of someone more experienced, I made it from NC to MB in one trip.
gonna share that?
edit: I also intended to add; both sides of this are on the same level here.
sure - salted OK?
sure - salted OK?
absolutly. *joins in the popcorn eating*
i guess the mods are to busy playing there beloved game to close this from retards. the sooner i get off this game for good the better, nerds and anti-socialists airnt the company i prefer.
Underground
07-09-04, 01:32
He takes the piss out of people that play tabletop games and apparently tthey all start getting angry and throw dice everywhere, however when he dies in a game, due to his own STUPIDITY of going back over and over on a 0/2 to a place where he KNOWS theres 60/60 mobs, and then starts crying WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE on the forums, trying to starve for attention, trying to instigate flames from other people, then announcing hes quitting and selling his account, jesus, two words spring to mind, pathetic hypocrite.
He takes the piss out of people that play tabletop games and apparently tthey all start getting angry and throw dice everywhere, however when he dies in a game, due to his own STUPIDITY of going back over and over on a 0/2 to a place where he KNOWS theres 60/60 mobs, and then starts crying WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE on the forums, trying to starve for attention, trying to instigate flames from other people, then announcing hes quitting and selling his account, jesus, two words spring to mind, pathetic hypocrite.
since when did i KNOW theres 60/60 mobs?
Underground
07-09-04, 01:34
since when did i KNOW theres 60/60 mobs?
ROFLES
since the first time you went in maybe?
or didnt you notice them atall in the 16 times that you went in there and died :lol:
i guess the mods are to busy playing there beloved game to close this from retards. the sooner i get off this game for good the better, nerds and anti-socialists airnt the company i prefer.
Ooga booga. Me make you friend.
the sooner i get off this game for good the better
how about now?
Underground
07-09-04, 01:40
He hates the game, hates the community, hates the image he has of all of us in his head that were all antisocial geeks, yet hes still here, he still plays neocron, he still posts on the forums... :wtf:
@ Benji... there ARE 127/127 mobs in hacknet (The Kernel Processes)... if you want to get into an enemy faction's core you'll have to deal with those...
I don't know why all of you have such trouble... going out of your protected corner of the net is dangerous... jsut like the real wastes are... even then I got to foster (from DoY) very easily, just dodging mobs and using a regen program... so it's not terribly hard. The fact that the lowest ICEbreaker is TL30 tells you something, hacknet is not for utter newbs, it's midbie to high-end content...
also, you've been exploring for a day and you say it's too confusing? so was NC plaza on day one for me... now I can navigate it with my monitor off, I'm already getting used to hacknet, once you learn how to get around it's a cinch all around.
give it time before you denounce it.
He hates the game, hates the community, hates the image he has of all of us in his head that were all antisocial geeks, yet hes still here, he still plays neocron, he still posts on the forums... :wtf:
because i dont run away from arguements. im giving away whatever items my friends want tomorrow then selling it.
Well said seraphian. Having run around it on higher level chars I managed to get a 0/2 from NC to MB without too much trouble earlier. It just takes time to learn.
There are some real problems there but they aren't the mobs anymore IMO.
i guess the mods are to busy playing there beloved game to close this from retards. the sooner i get off this game for good the better, nerds and anti-socialists airnt the company i prefer.And youre still here. Love-hate relationship, hm? Calm down and i bet you'll come back anyway.
:lol:
Well said seraphian. Having run around it on higher level chars I managed to get a 0/2 from NC to MB without too much trouble earlier. It just takes time to learn.
There are some real problems there but they aren't the mobs anymore IMO.
maybe its just my bad luck that i end up taking a step too far then dying, not remembering that if i fall i die didnt help either.
And youre still here. Love-hate relationship, hm? Calm down and i bet you'll come back anyway.
:lol:
in a serious matter a large amount of money would only get me back to this game with the likes of some people, i go on neocron once a week at most, and still pay, the only real reason i continued was because of the forums, until now anyways. its a shame i have to jepordise my chance of talking to nice people because of others, but thats the way it goes.
maybe its just my bad luck that i end up taking a step too far then dying, not remembering that if i fall i die didnt help either.
Falling makes little sense to me actually - IMO there should be something more elegant, eg a slowing-down near the edges rather than falling. The cracking-knees noise and blood-splash is not at all "cyberspace" to me.
Also the lifts are too fiddly.
Fix those and the incongruent GR model and it would be a lot better.
well u signed up on the fa.com forums and everyone hates u there
well u signed up on the fa.com forums and everyone hates u there
ot so much anymore, ive gotten to know some nice people there, and i hope i can continue too, your just an anti-social retard so i never got a chance to know you anyways.
biggest problem with hacknet is that it looks like someone painted the floors with the rpos, and I'm talking literally here... I've never seen anything as headache-inducing in my entire life. Even the mobs have that texture... I'm never going in there again, if they don't repaint it... 8|
I'm never going in there again, if they don't repaint it... 8|
That was my first thought after they sprayed TH with shite. Now they've done it to the whole game (except the bits they missed - gotta love KK QA).
biggest problem with hacknet is that it looks like someone painted the floors with the rpos, and I'm talking literally here... I've never seen anything as headache-inducing in my entire life. Even the mobs have that texture... I'm never going in there again, if they don't repaint it... 8|
shit we better shut hacknet down then if ur never gonna go in it
it does look much more dingy, obviously its what KK wanted.
mishkins sig calmed me down slightly, a bit of hammer time :p
Ummmm ... have i really got this right ... HackNet isn't fully done yet? You're kidding, right? This update that's now costing us like a new product and which has kept slipping out to later and later but is now finally in beta and supposedly about to ship at the end of the month ... has stuff that isnt DONE yet?!? Sheesh. Beta is for final tweeking, balancing, and load testing, not ongoing development. If HackNet isnt done yet, then what else isnt really done yet, and are we really going to see a *solid* product on time ... or not? Sure got *me* worried now. Tell me i am mistaken or confused and there's nothing to be concerned about ...
Spook @ Pluto
Ummmm ... have i really got this right ... HackNet isn't fully done yet? You're kidding, right? This update that's now costing us like a new product and which has kept slipping out to later and later but is now finally in beta and supposedly about to ship at the end of the month ... has stuff that isnt DONE yet?!? Sheesh. Beta is for final tweeking, balancing, and load testing, not ongoing development. If HackNet isnt done yet, then what else isnt really done yet, and are we really going to see a *solid* product on time ... or not? Sure got *me* worried now. Tell me i am mistaken or confused and there's nothing to be concerned about ...
Spook @ Pluto
you're not mistaken.
Honestly, I'm going to have to buck the trend again and say I kinda like the layout... if you turn the gamma down a bit.
Most of us are used to running around the wastes in the dark so we've got the gamma higher than it needs to be. Properly set hacknet is beautiful, and a LOT easier to navigate thanks to the transparancy (You can see where you're going, just have to figure out how to get there.
edit @ mega: Um, I agree with you that I'm REALLY concerned about incompletes... as it is I see NO evidence of several of their biggest promised advancements: player stores, new epics (2 of which are currently broken AFAIK) hacknet and accessories. Are they going to end up like our holovests? in the pack files but never ever ever used, or our poor maligned Termi run?
Ummmm ... have i really got this right ... HackNet isn't fully done yet? You're kidding, right? This update that's now costing us like a new product and which has kept slipping out to later and later but is now finally in beta and supposedly about to ship at the end of the month ... has stuff that isnt DONE yet?!? Sheesh. Beta is for final tweeking, balancing, and load testing, not ongoing development. If HackNet isnt done yet, then what else isnt really done yet, and are we really going to see a *solid* product on time ... or not? Sure got *me* worried now. Tell me i am mistaken or confused and there's nothing to be concerned about ...
Spook @ Pluto
It has been dumbed down for BETA so we can test it. Appart from that a lot has changed during the past few patches. Expect a lot to change over the following month.
you're not mistaken.
Wrong answer ... try again! :lol:
Spook @ Pluto
Viper Venom
07-09-04, 06:25
as for the mobs, if u run they dont atack, sliding isnt a problem, after a houre in hack net i was able to time when to stop perfectly to end up where i wanted,
falling damage is a bitch but like i said if u cant stop teh falling damage, then walk around like the place was built for u to
u have to travel from uplink to uplink not through a travel path to get to nc from mliitary base at teh place u specified,
it is simple to navigate when u have seen a example of each diferent area
falling damage is determined on agilty equivilant (in this case and every case in ahck net i belive it is hacking skill and int) so at higher lvls falling damage should be a problem
Viper GG! are you TRYING to get yourself banned!
you had some good points in these last few threads... but between trolling, posting exploits, man oh man.....
well, 10 to 1 says nice knowing you.
He is right though, once you get a hang of the physics, it isn't so bad. The falling thing bothers me though, because cyberspace isn't real, therefore real physics are more or less irrelevant.
The falling thing bothers me though, because cyberspace isn't real, therefore real physics are more or less irrelevant.
Meh. :D
Viper Venom
07-09-04, 06:32
ok also for u guys posting about the 0/2 thing, u know jack shit, i got my noob 0/2 to mb withought dieing once, although i did die 9 times on the way back (not back from mb, u cant get back, u hack gr u go abck to fraction free, i was looking for the dam TH genrep) 1 lil mob seemed to hate me, u only fall of if u lag adn u aint patient(i can aford to jump of the data stream due to falling damage, dont... walk around like a normal person should, if u wont live the falling damage, be patient and walk along the paths), and its very useful geting around local areas, as all fraction hq's for nc are based on the portal directly beind where u port in
i will have to asume the same for doy, since the setup is visavle pritty similar (colour and such diferent i think), i will try a doy fraction l8er
Edit: and no i am not trying to be banned, in retal not talking about exploits is a good policy but in beta thats stupid as i said i beta tested many games, like if we didnt find all teh bugs in RS and in EVE (dam didnt get long in beta of eve, my pc like blew up lol) and other such, and we kept em to our selfs, the games would suk cos we would have cheated so bad
and the dam storm bots dont need us psoting useles shite to em over and over when the problems being sorted,
Appart from that a lot has changed during the past few patches. Expect a lot to change over the following month.
Heh, being a software engineering professional myself, what you say makes me cringe mightily. During beta there should ideally be very little functional change or additions - if you really want to ensure a stable, high quality release.
Ah well ... to avoid panic, acid indigestion, and assorted sleepless nights worrying ... maybe i'll just ignore all the intervening details and simply wait to see what pops out the door when its all over. ;)
Spook @ Pluto
Viper Venom
07-09-04, 06:33
lol i already posted on teh fourm about the exploit we know they exist in teh game u jsut cant explain them to ppl because they would go cheating to, besides since i posted i havent used it =) and am sending all the other exploits by pm since my last post detailng how to do it was edited ( prff all i do when i beta test a game, and i beta test lots of games, is exploit till my eyes bleed, if i find em first and get em removed i get a real fealing of acomplisment)
Viper Venom
07-09-04, 06:42
Heh, being a software engineering professional myself, what you say makes me cringe mightily. During beta there should ideally be very little functional change or additions - if you really want to ensure a stable, high quality release.
Ah well ... to avoid panic, acid indigestion, and assorted sleepless nights worrying ... maybe i'll just ignore all the intervening details and simply wait to see what pops out the door when its all over. ;)
Spook @ Pluto
omg man i so no what u mean, when a beta is relesed, no changes should be planed, it should be ready retail, and changes only made if sumin goes un planned, if ur implementing stuf in beta u have to expect to extend beta, or have bugs in the newly implimented things
mmorpg terminology and meanings are a little different, beta is usually used for bug testing, but "open beta" and "stress test" are usually synonomous. open beta is usually used by reviewers and customers as a window into release and little is usually changed between it and gold, with maybe some small bug squashing.
or maybe I'm spoiled by blizzard and ncsoft or something.
Fix those and the incongruent GR model and it would be a lot better.
What's wrong with them? They used to have actual GR models in the hacknet, and they looked silly. The swirly portal things are much better :)
Aww come on its not that hard to move a 0/2 char from DOY to MB through the hack net imo it should be harder than it is now
shodanjr_gr
07-09-04, 11:11
And imagine that this thread comes from the person who called Warhammer players geeks...
Doc Holliday
07-09-04, 13:54
And imagine that this thread comes from the person who called Warhammer players geeks...
*claps* looks like he got a ban anyways.
mmorpg terminology and meanings are a little different, beta is usually used for bug testing, but "open beta" and "stress test" are usually synonomous. open beta is usually used by reviewers and customers as a window into release and little is usually changed between it and gold, with maybe some small bug squashing.
or maybe I'm spoiled by blizzard and ncsoft or something.
There's a HUGE difference between stress tests and implementing new features. Open beta tests should avoid the latter at all costs.
@Chumble - It was the GR model I meant :o - they fixed that then. I haven't been in hacknet for a while and didn't see any change in the patchnotes.
@Megacorp - Yes to everything :(.
There's a HUGE difference between stress tests and implementing new features. Open beta tests should avoid the latter at all costs.
you seem to have lost me with that reply. are you agreeing with me? thats what I was aiming to say (that open beta is usually just another word for stress test, and that little to nothing usually changes). or were you trying to make a different point than mine?
Beowulfxx1
07-09-04, 20:37
I Kinda like it, Once you gt use to all the moving stuff. I was able to move across the city of NC pretty quickly yesterday and found it differnet and fun. The mobs wont attack you if you are within your own Database though. So, i guess i had it easy.
But in all actuality it sounds to me like you are just incapable of wrapping your brain around the hacknet concepts. Have you considered that it just isnt for you, since you have so many issues with it and understanding it.
Beo
[TgR]KILLER
07-09-04, 20:43
i see crazy had the [banned user] on page 2 so din't bother reading on realy..
but i made a spy today just for trying hacknet 54 hack rank 0/2 i went from FA dns to MB got out at mb and tagged the gr.. tagged tescom GR on the way to.. i never died once.. passed fuckloads of backpacks and belts tho.. i could run past all the 60/60 and 80/80 and whatever "mobs" there were.. only had one shoot me 1 time and i survived.. i never fell down..
anyway.. hacknet is not that hard as everybody is saying.. i find it pretty easy lol..
and din't read all reactions.. but it was known ages back hacknet was gonna be only for higher level chars.. it was said ingame and speculated you needed 150+ hack to be good in hacknet. but judging by the reqs on the hacknet tools/weapons as they are in beta atm reqs are a little lower..
and to finalise.. as a reply on "thats shit noobs can't explore hacknet then" you ever see 0/2 noobs inside chaos caves or hunting grim chasers ? :rolleyes:
nuff said..
you seem to have lost me with that reply. are you agreeing with me? thats what I was aiming to say (that open beta is usually just another word for stress test, and that little to nothing usually changes). or were you trying to make a different point than mine?I was agreeing. It might have been clearer if i had quoted someone else though :). Somewhere up there some numpty was saying they thought it makes sense to roll out major changes in such a short "open beta".
IMO this really ought to be a "Release Candidate". It's FAR too late to be adding new functionality if you expect a stable release. Even in fast development environments* you wouldn't add wholly new systems into the project this late.
* - KK need NOT apply.
KILLER'] you ever see 0/2 noobs inside chaos caves or hunting grim chasers ? :rolleyes:
Yes - there are a LOT of morons out there (and a few cheats too).
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