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Some information from the GC - German Version (http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=108089) / Google Translated Version (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.neocron.com%2Fshowthread.php?t=108089&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)
Some more NC 2 Information (GC I presume) - German Version (http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=108090) / Google Translated Version (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.neocron.com%2Fshowthread.php?t=108090&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)
Some information from the GC - German Version (http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=108089) / Google Translated Version (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.neocron.com%2Fshowthread.php?t=108089&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)
Some more NC 2 Information (GC I presume) - German Version (http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=108090) / Google Translated Version (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.neocron.com%2Fshowthread.php?t=108090&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)
Heaven forbid KK should give us a proper translation. It's not like we're interested in NC2 as well.
They probably want us to enjoy the comic translations by google :D
They're immensely funny :lol:
/edit, woah, we're getting weapons that appear in holsters and on our backs? Sweeeeet! :D
I'm sure MJS is righting up the english version right now.....
Richard Slade
22-08-04, 15:24
I'm sure MJS is righting up the english version right now.....
BS, he's not that stupid that he'll write the translation
He'll force Carb to do it
MjukisDjur
22-08-04, 15:30
Nah MJS roams the autobahn in his new sportscar in 340km/h taking notes on a dictaphone. Then he lets Carb do both of them :P
I'm sure MJS is righting up the english version right now.....
then why didnt he do it after he posted that? ;)
thats was pisses me off about kk, how hard can it be to post that here in english ? (and coz the french probably dont get it either why cant they post it there in french)
Jesterthegreat
22-08-04, 19:46
/edit, woah, we're getting weapons that appear in holsters and on our backs? Sweeeeet! :D
half the people leave before details like this come out? :rolleyes:
tbh even with losin items etc (and since i played sonce beta 3 i have a fair few items) i get the feeling im gonna love DoY. im likin all the info i have seen so far
im likin all the info i have seen so farwhat about, you're liking all the info they haven't told us too the way KK are
:rolleyes:
Shadow Dancer
22-08-04, 20:29
what about, you're liking all the info they haven't told us too the way KK are
:rolleyes:
I bet he's in beta. :p
Check minimap and where they are in this screenshot:
http://www.cyberdyne-sky.net/images/nc2hud.jpg
*cough* added hud on pic with photoshop *cough*?
I bet he's in beta. :p
who me?
I don't get in because i break the name filter :(
these wasnt any official info from KK. only some impessions from the GC. i ll try to translate my posting:
I try to concentrate some fakt about upcomming within doy.
alter ego
- Models ll completly new designed and come along with more polygones which makes them very individualy.
- somethink new is, players can chose a individual face as same as a individual haircut.
- some parts of the models ll become own objects, as it is like the haircut or clothes (?)
- the primary weapon ll also be visible directly on the playermodel (pistols at the hip, cannons, rifles and melees at the back)
- the jobs are better balanced and fit better with the different chars.
neocron city
- many of the known shops wont be nomore at the same locations or ll be removed
- there s a resturant at plaza1. opposite of the outfitter.
- sewer entries wont be any more inside the shops
- the hole city belongs more largely and/or more deeply with higher buildings
- the hovercap taxi system ll transport players from landingpot to landingpot
- they ll be placed everywhere in the hole city. as i saw one at plaza1 medicare and one at plaza3 in direction to pepperpark.
- two players can take place in one taxi
- the flight as itselfs is very interessting leating thought the devoured buildings
- there ll no safezone in the city. u will allowed to take ur weapon out everywhere. u also can fight against the cobbots. This makes hostile assaults possible in the cities
roleplaying
- the faction belongingnesses ll strengthened very much
- as it makes the hq of the faction to the most impotent place for the player
- many of the tools and weapons ll only sold at the faction hq
- some of the things u getting at the hq ll only available if u have a especialy amount of loyality.
- the leveling as itself ll become more longer and more difficult. the powerleveling of a char wont work any more.
dome of york
- shows realy thought-out and good designed.
- realy dark atmosphere in front of ruins and hills of rubbish. many way leating thought bomed ruins and buldings and dark lanes
- homing every anti CA factions
- cant say anymore about it ... havent tested it as much.
hacknet
- u can reach the hacknet if u using a hacking tool directly on an genrep station.
- the main structure ll be the same every time. Players will wake up in a kind spiral stair-well-behaved structure, which will extend over very many levels.
- on the different levels u can reach genrepstations like bus systems which leating to other systems.
- the player ll hunt from system to system to reach a prefered target.
- u can materialise ur self directly in enemy sectors.
- after leaving hacknet to other genrepstations u ll have no synaptic impairment.
- inside the hacknet the player ll be allowed to hack databases with different informations or blueprints
- if u can fight urself through the firewalls defended by 60/60 mobs (progammes).
- the hacknet ll be complexy nested. and uplinks ll be used a main crosspoints where u can reach every system.
miscs
- the new airplanes r ingame like the gliders and bombers.
- many new weapons and tools in many subcategories extend the selections
- implantates and parts ll still available at the traders
- there r new shops for furnishings. Which divide themselves in furniture and plants
- also clanappas can be decorated and setup as own wishes
- all u can imagine r available for buying. from the simple genrepstation to a shopkeeper-counter. at last it makes the syllogism the playershops can be done in your appartments.
- many new emotes and motions
- in example the dead of a player. no more handexpanted supine position but relay cool dieing animations.
- many of the mobs ll be redesigned but many ll still be the same.
- sound r redesigned but we could hear much about it, becouse the damn dj there ^^. but which i heard was realy atmospheric
this all of my impessions, hope i didnt forgett to much or made failures. if so, just correct me.
HAVE FUN!!!
I try to concentrate some fakt about upcomming within doy.
Thanks, lots of good info there :)
Satocastix
22-08-04, 20:51
Thanks for the translation, KC, good read. I'm kind of worried about there being no safezones, though. 8|
Google Translated Version (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.neocron.com%2Fshowthread.php?t=108089&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)
oh dear god my brain just exploded
Thanks for the translation, KC, good read. I'm kind of worried about there being no safezones, though. 8|
Don't be. It'll be more of a problem for the elite PKers than for normal people. With no P3 to run away and hide in, they'll probably quit en masse.
Satocastix
22-08-04, 20:57
I never thought of that... I guess that DOY can create some interesting opporitunities to humiliate PK'ers. :D
some other sad, th ll become a safezone... couldnt check this out but i think this is real...
Satocastix
22-08-04, 21:04
TH a safezone? The world of Neocron has flipped upside-down... in a somewhat good way...
Richard Slade
22-08-04, 21:09
People talk so much so I say that there will be no safe zones in Neo and TH
but MB and DoY will be total safes...
An option to this..
Could be to wait and see! yay ! :D
some more infos
Und dann hab ich noch unter F4, bei nen Armors, zwei weitere Slots für "Accessoires" entdeckt. Keine Ahnung was da reinkommt aber vielleicht ja sowas wie Körperschmuck
something like:
saw at f4 - armory window 2 new slots named for accessories. no idea what u could put in it but maybe it is something for decorations.
Satocastix
22-08-04, 21:17
Sunglasses and cigarettes!
:D
Doc Holliday
22-08-04, 22:42
thanks kc. least people get an idea about whats going off now.
:cool:It's all very cool.:cool:
greendonkeyuk
22-08-04, 23:07
5 stars for translation
Spikadelia
22-08-04, 23:11
Great work on the translation.
DISCLMAIER: This is my impression of KC DEE's impression of another post. It's like chinese whispers and so should be taken as such. Basicly just a rewritten and restructured version thats easier to read, thanks KC DEE for your original text.
New Models
Player models will be completely redesigned. They will feature a higher polygon count and will allow more flexibility in character customisation. For example, a player can now select there face and hair individually. Some components on the new models will be seperate objects that can be attached after character creation. For example, guns in your quckbelt appear on your character.
Models will also feature more emotes and annimations. For example, a second death animation where the spine falls in the correct direction when falling down has been added. Several of the new mobs will feature new models.
Updated Neocron
Neocron City has been made taller with some new locations, for example; there is a new restraunt opposite Rokkware in plaza 1. There are new furnature and plant shops around the city where furnishings can be purchased to decoraite both player appartments and clan appartments. Furnature ranges from Gene Replicators to Player Vendors & Counters.
The current shops have also been relocated to better balance the zones, and sewer and cellers that were origionally in shops have been relocated to more appropriate locations.
Taxi Cabs will have designated landing points around the city and will fly around all of the sectors in Neocron. They will carry two runners at a time and will feature exciting flight patterns.
Plaza and Viarosso are no longer safezones. There are still copbots which you can fight against, which will allow for city seiges and interesting battles to take place.
Dome of York
Dome of york is really well designed. There are piles of rubbish all around the place, and is home to Fallen Angels, Crahn, Twilight Guardian, Black Dragon and Tsunami Sindicate.
Hacknet
Using a hacktool on a Gene Replicator takes you into Hacknet, and upon exciting hacknet players will not suffer from Synaptic Imparement. The structure will remain familiar throughout different zones. Uplinks will function as virtual crossroads giving hackers the best travel flexibility. There are a stairs which lead to special gene replicators that take you to the different hacknet zones. The player will use the zones to find the desired destination, and will be able to use this system to re-emerge into enemy territory.
There are rank 60/60 "program" mobs and special hacknet weapons to fight them with.
Factions
Factions have been made more individual. Each faction has specific items only sold by the faction, some of which are only available to members of the faction who attain a certain amount of Faction Sympathy. This makes faction headquarters more important.
Game Mechanics
Leveling will take much longer in Neocron 2. Steps have been taken to remove power leveling. The mission system is also being rebalanced in a way that best accomodations all classes.
New Stuff
There will be Gliders and Bombers in Neocron 2, aswell as several brand new weapons.
Sound has been reworked, but I couldn't hear much because of the DJ. (?)
Translation of this (http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?t=108089) was done by Shinbo (he cancelled his accounts and therefore isn't able to post anymore):
Originally Posted by Hasch Mich
Conclusion:
The staff was polite and informative.
Seems to be the great exception...:) Serious: The amount of people was so amazing,
that nearly every staff member lost his voice (and some also their nerves). After
all everyone did a great job.
Please think about it: We are game developers and no marionettes. Presenting games
is a tough job...and maybe one or another KK-staff member was a bit surprised
by this fact in the beginning. In exchange you have got the pleasure to talk
directly to the devs and you don't have to converse with "promoters" who actually
don't have a clue about the game.
Certainly there was one or another who couldn't be helped (i.e. because devs also
got "human needs"), but who generally complains about the presentation just
doesn't know.
Concerning the features and the status of the product: We always openly proclaimed
that NC:BDoY primarily is a very large expansion-pack for Neocron. The fact that it
is named NC2 is mainly based on wanting to make people comprehend that NC1 is
not needed for playing NC:BDoY
bellyachers should be aware that it is not sensible to completely rate NC2 on the
Beta-Version of the Convention. This was more about a "Sneak-Preview" because
the presention couldn't be that copious to make a view of all the features possible.
Accordingly it wasn't the last build which would have been sent through quality
assurance. You only do that for the release version.
This doesn't mean that NC2 is going to be the world's first bugfree MMORPG..;) But
at least the big bumpers we already knocked out.
Well...You can make your own opinion of it during the Open Beta. But please also think
about this: A beta still is a beta version of the game that (because of various reasons)
isn't feature-complete and so on. A beta IS NOT a demo! Only the free trial is good for
a demo..and then I also start chatting about fatals, bugs and so on again..but maybe
also about the good sites of NC2..
On this note...
Best wishes from a stressed and exasperated MJS who still is on the GC and looks
forward to tumbling into is bed in hannover! ;)
Quote "as it makes the hq of the faction to the most impotent place for the player"
_____________________________________
OK this is what worries me the most, all those impotent players out there,
oh well I guess Bio will bring out a new implant that has a Viagra effect
(new slots on bodies?)
Game Mechanics
Leveling will take much longer in Neocron 2. Steps have been taken to remove power leveling.
How did they establish this from a demo of the Game ?
Or
were the Devs there actually stating this ?
Looks like there gonna fix the end game situation by making sure you dont get to 'end game', if so, thats disapointing, but who knows, heres hoping.
Anyway, good work, they must've been sitting there with a notepad & pen for 2 hours getting all that from a demo stand.
Looks like there gonna fix the end game situation by making sure you dont get to 'end game', if so, thats disapointing, but who knows, heres hoping.
Actually, I think it's good. A game where a capped character is relativly rare that also has strong PvP and trading is a good game indeed. Lots going on and always lots to do!
Shadow Dancer
23-08-04, 05:48
Remove power leveling? What the heck does that mean?
Certain amount of XP max per day?
OK this is what worries me the most, all those impotent players out there,
oh well I guess Bio will bring out a new implant that has a Viagra effect
(new slots on bodies?)
:lol: :D *important ;)
Remove power leveling? What the heck does that mean?
Certain amount of XP max per day?
no, only that it's almost impossible to get max capped in a couple of days. just takes a lot longer... as in fakt u getting lesser xp.
new info:
- the genrep list ll be sortable.
Shadow Dancer
23-08-04, 08:48
no, only that it's almost impossible to get max capped in a couple of days. just takes a lot longer... as in fakt u getting lesser xp.
God I hope they didn't lower monk INT gain. 8|
new info:
- the genrep list ll be sortable.
shall I say sex?
Game Mechanics
Leveling will take much longer in Neocron 2. Steps have been taken to remove power leveling. The mission system is also being rebalanced in a way that best accomodations all classes.
I guess this means INT/DEX for monks is still f***ed up, and will take ages to access WoC for monks. :mad:
One nice aspect of NC was that leveling was easy and quite fast, if they start to remove some of the good aspects too .... :rolleyes:
Erf wait and see.. ;)
Some Pictures of the KK Dudes (http://forum.neocron.com/showpost.php?p=1545958&postcount=50)
Whom they are (http://forum.neocron.com/showpost.php?p=1545973&postcount=52)
God I hope they didn't lower monk INT gain. 8|
hope you have capped your intel then
actually hope the game aint to slow with the leveling, one of the reasons i like this game is that its quick to level, if its slow takes to long to get to the PvP part, in which case i would get bored, as its the PvP side thats the fun part of this game.
Im already back playing UO atm most of the stuff ive heard about NC2 is good, but it only takes a few things to make it crap.
I guess this means INT/DEX for monks is still f***ed up, and will take ages to access WoC for monks. :mad:
One nice aspect of NC was that leveling was easy and quite fast, if they start to remove some of the good aspects too .... :rolleyes:
Erf wait and see.. ;)
Hmm from things i heard, you don't have to cap all skills only the main skill has to be capped, like STR for the tank and PSI for the monk...after some more leveling you have to visit some sort of tempel where you get some quest's which will give you item's related to it.
I actually don't know the mainskills for SPY and PE but maybe it's like INT for SPY's and DEX for PE....time will show.
- the leveling as itself ll become more longer and more difficult. the powerleveling of a char wont work any more.
WTF - they've INCREASED the treadmill?
Jesus H, so now pre capped characters > all other new nc players for months and months
great stuff - really thought this one out havent they.
Or perhaps the longer it takes you to cap - the more cash you will have.
I better get power levelling my chars now 8|
Dribble Joy
23-08-04, 17:03
WTF - they've INCREASED the treadmill?
Jesus H, so now pre capped characters > all other new nc players for months and months
great stuff - really thought this one out havent they.
Or perhaps the longer it takes you to cap - the more cash you will have.
I better get power levelling my chars now 8|
The problem is that some areas of the lvling process are rediculously fast.
PEs lvl WAY too quick, as can tanks.
The problem is that some areas of the lvling process are rediculously fast.
PEs lvl WAY too quick, as can tanks.
yea I always hated the fact that you can go out and save up your money for getting a leveling weapon built and then go out and level with it and within 10-30 minutes you've passed up the next 2-3 leveling weapons that were next -_-;;;
Richard Slade
23-08-04, 17:43
Some Pictures of the KK Dudes (http://forum.neocron.com/showpost.php?p=1545958&postcount=50)
Whom they are (http://forum.neocron.com/showpost.php?p=1545973&postcount=52)
The SnowCrash bunny man is alot more scary now than before I tell you that..
Damn dude, you're huge
Nah, mostly I am fluffy. But if you like you can ph34r me even more now. :p
That semin...whatever guy with the pony tail. Scary mofo!
Jesterthegreat
23-08-04, 19:12
I bet he's in beta. :p
:rolleyes:
i have lost count of the times people have thought i am a GM / dev / etc
i tend to ignore it all now :p
besides...you think they invite members of NCAT to their important beta tests? :P
anyway... what have i heard thats bad......... well i dont wanna have to redo epics, but other than that i love it. i was willing to squeeze my items down to 10 per char, im even happier now i dont have to rip out MC5's etc.
the only bad thing i would say about what i have heard about it is the advertising seems to be very german, and not so much US / UK and so on
ZzarGladius
24-08-04, 02:28
Has there been any word on the player run shops? I know KC sorta said something about it, but I wasn't sure if it was meant that it just looked like a shop in your appartment, or can there truly be a player run shop?
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