Another newbie PE thread

[SjanTeN^]

Well lets just get it out in the open, this is not a 'please give me ur con setup' thread. I got some pe related questions :-)
1. Can a PE use a EXE without drugging?
2. Can a PE use the black PE4 without drugging? (drugging for supporting is ok)
3. A lot of good PE's dont use PA's, what do they use instead? Inquis?
More question will probaly be added when i get this answerd, cos i were thinking of loamin him to a combat driver, but KK sure did screw that one up. ;)

[Cyphor]

1. Nope most you can get without drugs is 112 dex (27 from imps plus pa)

2. Yes, many would consider it gimped but you can wear with with no drugs.

3. I use viper king, either that or titan armour.

[Lexxuk]

pe caps at 80 dex, so backbone = 5 dex, sf, sa = 11, motoric3, that droner chip for another 10 = 26 dex
80+26=106, PA4 = 105, cant remember what dex the 105 gives, but add that to 106 and see if you got enough to use the exe ;)

[Herbitt]

1. Can a PE use a EXE without drugging?


Nope, needs drugs.

2. Can a PE use the black PE4 without drugging? (drugging for supporting is ok)


Needs drugs to support it.



3. A lot of good PE's dont use PA's, what do they use instead? Inquis?

Most low tech PE's use this setup, i used to use full inq setup and shove all con points into enegy, body health and athletics..

[Cyphor]

Most low tech PE's use this setup, i used to use full inq setup and shove all con points into enegy, body health and athletics..

:eek: you didn't like xray weps then :p

oh and 27 as Back Bone SA SF SRI and Riggers Dream pa 4 gives 5 dex. so gimped its not worth it :p but its still the most dex you can get afaik.

[Herbitt]

:eek: you didn't like xray weps then :p

errr i meant xray as well ;)

[Lexxuk]

with armour its better to balance out your armour to try to make it as equal as possible, like if you have 50 nrg and 75 fire, you gotta pump more into nrg in resists to make up for it. with 60 nrg and 60 fire, you get more points spare to keep ur resists up :)

[Possessed]

My philosphy on armour is to squeez as many points as I can out of it... so INQ armour (and VK since the dev came), and the chran boots are just pure sex.

[Lexxuk]

My philosphy on armour is to squeez as many points as I can out of it... so INQ armour (and VK since the dev came), and the chran boots are just pure sex.

your (slightly modified) resist setup (the one i changed it too :p) works well against slasher spies :D Pos i dont bother with, if someones usin a flamer i can just switch armour :D

[LiL T]

Sex :o

[Possessed]

Keep fire/xray equal, you want to have more energy that both of them though (as all energy weapons do more primary damage(energy) than secondary damage).

[LiL T]

Keep fire/xray equal, you want to have more energy that both of them though (as all energy weapons do more primary damage(energy) than secondary damage).

what he said but not by much like 5 more extra points and your PE will take many many HL's also use blessed deflector I'm pretty sure many weapons such as a CS does a small amount of force

[Sigma]

[...]1. Can a PE use a EXE without drugging?[...]
DEX: 113 Base: 80
Implants:
MC5 Rigger's Dream
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
Special Forces CPU
Special Rigger Interface
Experimental Reflexbooster 4
Armor:
Tangent Close Range Battlesuit V-40

[Koshinn]

DEX: 113 Base: 80
Implants:
MC5 Rigger's Dream
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
Special Forces CPU
Special Rigger Interface
Experimental Reflexbooster 4
Armor:
Tangent Close Range Battlesuit V-40
That's actually 112 dex.
You can get 113dex with DoY eye (not suggested at all)
and 118dex with DoY eye + tradeskill glove (highly not suggested)

So yes a PE can use an exec without drugs. Not a good idea in the very slightest. Exec is 113 dex. it would require 2 MC5 chips and a DoY eye though.
yes a PE can use PA4 without drugs (107 dex before PA4 using sigma's imp setup).
they use VKA or Titan.

[LiL T]

edited see post after the next

[LiL T]

OK now it has SF chip :rolleyes:

[Koshinn]

Lil, that's REALLY low health. Wow... how do you survive with less hp than a spy?

[LiL T]

Lil, that's REALLY low health. Wow... how do you survive with less hp than a spy?

Thats not my setup atm it is hightech and I have tryed 80 health befor had no problems ^^

[Koshinn]

Ah, okay. I don't get how you can do that... I've seen PE setups with better resists and 470 hp. They're lowtech pistol, but without PA. They'd also probably do 75% the damage of a hightech pistol setup.

[LiL T]

edit cos me stupid

[Koshinn]

Oh that's why your setup looks so good. It says you're using HEAVY energy belt. That takes like 98 int, not 72. :)

Edit: What buffs are you using? Pc1/spy1/br2?
Edit Edit: NM, those are the buffs.

[LiL T]

Oh that's why your setup looks so good. It says you're using HEAVY energy belt. That takes like 98 int, not 72. :)

ah fuck too drunk sorry I don't know what I'm going on about atm I'll goto bed now :lol: :lol:

:o

[Cyphor]

You can get 113dex with DoY eye (not suggested at all)
and 118dex with DoY eye + tradeskill glove (highly not suggested)

ah heh never thought about the doy eye as have no idea what it does :p i haven't played alot recently bar to pvp. And heh yeah tradeskill gloves very highly not sugested as the -100 pc will mean you wont meet the requirements of the gun :p

[Sigma]

Private Eye


INT:72 Base:60
HCK:25 Base:0
BRT:0 Base:0
PSU:80 Base:70
WEP:131 Base:108
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:20 Base:0
RCL:12 Base:0


DEX: 115 Base: 80
P-C:173 Base:131
R-C:0 Base:0
T-C:88 Base:74
VHC:0 Base:0
AGL:102 Base:35
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:12 Base:0


STR:63 Base:60
M-C:-16 Base:-16
H-C:6 Base:6
TRA:81 Base:81
FOR:103 Base:110


CON:63 Base:65
BodyHealth:439
Stamina:50
ATL:84 Base:43
HLT:110 Base:77
END:8Base:0
FIR:67 Base:67
ENR:37 Base:37
XRR:80 Base:50
POR:35 Base:0


PSI:36 Base:35
PSI-Pool:94
PPU:75 Base:75
APU:0 Base:0
MST:42 Base:50
PPW:22 Base:22
PSR:0 Base:35



Implants:
BIOTECH (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
Special Forces CPU
MC5 Rigger's Dream
Pistol Combateye 3
Filter Heart 2
Reflexbooster 4
Crahn Power Gauntlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Biotech Antigamma Chest
Biotech Antigamma Armenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Legenforcement
Experimental Footenforcement

Armor:
Inquisitionhelmet 2
Tangent Close Range Battlesuit V-40
Medium Energy Protection Belt
Inquisitiontrousers 2
Crahn Holy Shelter Boots

Buffs:
Crahn Pistol Combat Booster 1, Crahn Hazard Resist Booster 1, Crahn Spy Booster 1
Crahn Shelter selfcast, Crahn Blessed Deflector selfcast

Drugs:
Redflash, Whiteflash, Nightspider, Drug4, Drug5


Armor:
Piercing: 199 Force: 166 Fire: 125 Energy: 125 Xray: 125 Poison: 32
Protection:
Piercing: 95% Force: 95% Fire: 90 - 95% Energy: 90 - 95% Xray: 90 - 95% Poison: 21,33%
Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 6 - 4% Force: 6 - 5% Fire: 7 - 6% Energy: 7 - 6% Xray: 7 - 6% Poison: 25,96%




I WIN!

[LiL T]

Drugs:
Redflash, Whiteflash, Nightspider, Drug4, Drug5

yeah but that is a pain in the arse and very expensive

[Sigma]

Drugs:
Redflash, Whiteflash, Nightspider, Drug4, Drug5

yeah but that is a pain in the arse and very expensive
yeah because money is a problem... :wtf:

And btw. it's no pain in the ass to maintain 3 drugs.

Before I got my SA I had to use 4 drugs, with a bit of time you adapt to it easily.

[Koshinn]

Sigma, I see you're using skillmanager v2. There's an error in it actually. The Pistol PE PA 4 gives +6 dex in that program, it should give 5. Noticed you changed yours too. :)

Anyway, here's my attempt at a NO DRUG EXEC SETUP. OMG WTF HAX.



INT:78 Base:60
HCK:105 Base:80
BRT:0 Base:0
PSU:39 Base:39
WEP:100 Base:92
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:4 Base:0
RCL:22 Base:0


DEX:113 Base:80
P-C:160 Base:133
R-C:10 Base:0
T-C:88 Base:74
VHC:10 Base:0
AGL:57 Base:25
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:22 Base:0


STR:60 Base:60
M-C:10 Base:10
H-C:0 Base:0
TRA:92 Base:92
FOR:114 Base:99


CON:67 Base:65
BodyHealth:417
Stamina:50
ATL:83 Base:75
HLT:103 Base:78
END:16 Base:0
FIR:17 Base:17
ENR:24 Base:24
XRR:60 Base:60
POR:0 Base:0


PSI:31 Base:35
PSI-Pool:34
PPU:0 Base:0
APU:0 Base:0
MST:-8 Base:0
PPW:0 Base:0
PSR:0 Base:25



Implants:
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
MC5 Rigger's Dream
Special Forces CPU
Special Rigger Interface
DoY Vehicle Coordination Linkage
Strengthen Heart 2
Experimental Reflexbooster 4
Crahn Power Gauntlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Biotech Antigamma Chest
Biotech Antigamma Armenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Legenforcement
Experimental Footenforcement

Armor:
Inquisitionhelmet 2
Tangent Close Range Battlesuit V-40
Medium Energy Protection Belt
Inquisitiontrousers 2
Medium-Inquisitionboots

Buffs:
Pistol Combat Booster 1, Basic Resist Booster 2, Spy Booster 1
Crahn Shelter selfcast, Crahn Blessed Deflector selfcast

Drugs:
--none--, --none--, --none--, --none--, --none--

Armor:
Piercing: 226 Force: 191 Fire: 100 Energy: 100 Xray: 100 Poison: 0
Protection:
Piercing: 95% Force: 95% Fire: 85 - 90% Energy: 85 - 90% Xray: 85 - 90% Poison: 0%
Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 6 - 4% Force: 6 - 4% Fire: 8 - 7% Energy: 8 - 7% Xray: 8 - 7% Poison: 33%

Problems... no POR, and 160 PC. Shouldn't be a problem with a PPU or a fortress.

[LiL T]

Well imo hightech pe's just don't cut it they never did it was only stealth that made them good or more like cowards. Lowtech might not have the big damage output but they can last alot longer being hit by a judge PE is almost like getting hit with a non rare from most PE's I meet. Which is why I think the PE should have more hightech pistols that don't need drugs that do ok damage.

[Koshinn]

Well imo hightech pe's just don't cut it they never did it was only stealth that made them good or more like cowards. Lowtech might not have the big damage output but they can last alot longer being hit by a judge PE is almost like getting hit with a non rare from most PE's I meet. Which is why I think the PE should have more hightech pistols that don't need drugs that do ok damage.
None of them need drugs. :-P

[Sigma]

Sigma, I see you're using skillmanager v2. There's an error in it actually. The Pistol PE PA 4 gives +6 dex in that program, it should give 5. Noticed you changed yours too. :)[...]
Yeah, noticed it, after calculating it through and looking in the armorfile.

[LiL T]

Problems... no POR, and 160 PC. Shouldn't be a problem with a PPU or a fortress.

That setup looks ok but you would be too slow too easy to hit dead in a short time

57 AGL !!

[LiL T]

maybe this might be better 2 drugs red and white flash ;)

[Koshinn]

Nah, you can make a better setup with 1 drug. It's infinitely better than no drugs. Heh.
How about this? CS PE setup. Yes, Cursed Soul. Yes, that's Tiger Blood, Xstrong, Nightshade and Beast. :-P
There's another bug, the Str MC/HC base is wrong... those are the total values.


Private Eye


INT:55 Base:60
HCK:75 Base:70
BRT:-13 Base:0
PSU:40 Base:40
WEP:90 Base:100
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:4 Base:0
RCL:0 Base:0


DEX:77 Base:80
P-C:-10 Base:0
R-C:-10 Base:0
T-C:85 Base:81
VHC:80 Base:100
AGL:179 Base:98
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:0 Base:0


STR:107 Base:60
M-C:149 Base:149
H-C:179 Base:179
TRA:19 Base:19
FOR:33 Base:0


CON:78 Base:65
BodyHealth:495
Stamina:50
ATL:8 Base:0
HLT:116 Base:63
END:26 Base:0
FIR:39 Base:39
ENR:39 Base:39
XRR:78 Base:88
POR:27 Base:27


PSI:35 Base:35
PSI-Pool:115
PPU:68 Base:68
APU:0 Base:0
MST:43 Base:43
PPW:43 Base:43
PSR:0 Base:98



Implants:
Berserk Chip 3
BIOTECH (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
Marine's CPU
Berserk Chip 2
Melee Combateye 3
Experimental Heart 2
Hardenbackbone 3
Gaunlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Biotech Antigamma Chest
Biotech Antigamma Armenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Legenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Footenforcement

Armor:
Inquisitionhelmet 4
Duranium Armovest 4
Light Energy Protection Belt
Inquisitiontrousers 4
Heavy Duranium Boots

Buffs:
Crahn Heavy Combat Booster 1, Crahn Basic Resist Booster 2, Crahn Spy Booster 1
Crahn Shelter selfcast, Crahn Blessed Deflector selfcast

Drugs:
Beast, Kri'nakh Nightshade, Tiger Blood, XStrong, --none--


Armor:
Piercing: 146 Force: 115 Fire: 120 Energy: 120 Xray: 120 Poison: 24
Protection:
Piercing: 95% Force: 91 - 95% Fire: 90 - 95% Energy: 90 - 95% Xray: 90 - 95% Poison: 16%
Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 6 - 5% Force: 7 - 5% Fire: 7 - 6% Energy: 7 - 6% Xray: 7 - 6% Poison: 27.72%

[LiL T]

This is kind of what I was thinking for a pure outpost war hightech PE ppu dependant heat 3 spy 3 pistol 3 buffs 2 drugs white and red flash

Edit: with out a ppu would be total shite but I once thought about it :)