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among the other nuggets of knowledge Newell revealed: Striders, the towering Tripods-esque aliens, can be killed; more than 200 people auditioned to voice Alyx; the game's violence will be toned down for the German censors; and Half-Life will be available in English, French, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Korean, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, and Thai.
WTF!? The way this is written it sounds like the WHOLE games violence is being toned down for German kids!? Why does everyone have to suffer for 1 age group in one little (compaired to USA, Japan, China) country? Is the whole game being toned down or just the German version? It sounds like all versions from whats written.... thats absolutely rediculous. I hope we all dont have to suffer just because a few assholes cant deal with BLOOD actually coming out of bullet holes...
And YES, its important to me, I really am pissed with how non violent games are getting (ex, why cant you blow someone to pieces in BF/BFV or crush someone into hamburger under a tanks treads, or bayonet someone and rip their intestines out)
I think they just meant the German version, hopefully.
I luv ya Vet.
I agree, i fucken hate censorship.
Hopefully there are 'illegal' graphic upgrades available.
or
With a bit of luck there may be a seperate German "pussy" release.
They should just say "fuckit' & make it R rated, who needs 12 year-olds playing anyway.
(thats IF the game ever gets released, probably some time after Doy & just before hell frezzes over)
I'm pretty sure they were only talking about the German version.
I've heard of SEVERAL other instances of games in the past, that have had their violence turned down for certain countries, including Germany and Australia.
I've seen custom versions shipped to the country, and options in the install menu to install the regular version, or the "custom violence" version for the above mentioned countries.
I hope you're wrong, simply because I want a full violence version like you. :p
well, the reason I think they mean all versions is because is says "the violence will be downed down for Germany" not "Germans version will be less violence, and why tell everyone if its not for all versions? thats what I fear... whats with the censorship anyway? We dont want kids playing, less kids = more insentive to play for most gamers, as we know the avg age is pretty high.
I just hope it is just Germany, or ithey have a violence patch...
Some stuff incas you guys didnt know, HL2 apparently comes with lots of multiplay, including CS exactly as it is now, same maps, guns, etc, just in HL2 graphics.
Carmageddon II in England had zombies instead of humans.
Shadow Warrior in England had Darts instead of Shurrikans. (I don't understand that one though. Which one is worse?)
Carmageddon II in England had zombies instead of humans
LOL yeah it did not make it an less violent just meant the blood was green and the people you knocked down where a bit like zombies :wtf:
iirc, germany has very strict rules governing video game violence, I think there even may have been a ban on ID video games or something at some point in time.
Gotterdammerung
28-06-04, 06:12
Germany has some strict laws that prohibit graphic and/or un-necessary violence. The toning down applies there only.
Must be why we dont have 'gibs' in Neocron.
Hope DoY brings a little more gratuitious violence, i mean ffs, we have strippers, so wheres my gibs dammit. :o
Moon strikers should fuck shit up, seriously, at the end of a cave you should have to seive through the remains of the queen. (maybe a gore patch, something like the xmas patch thats optional would be sweet, hey, does the xmas patch still work, might try & find it, I could use a little xmas cheer)
Germany has some strict laws that prohibit graphic and/or un-necessary violence. The toning down applies there only.
Arn't cannible laws much lighter in Germany compared to the rest of the world?
Or am I getting that mixed up with something else?
iirc, germany has very strict rules governing video game violence, I think there even may have been a ban on ID video games or something at some point in time.
Germany has some strict laws that prohibit graphic and/or un-necessary violence. The toning down applies there only.exactly, unlike u vet, i can't buy games like Postal 2, Quake 1/2/3, Blood 1/2, etc. in a store, because of our "superb" laws against violence in ANY media.
i COULD buy it in a gamestore, in a special section only accessible if u r over 18.
even advertisments for games on the "index" (list with all the "bad" games on it) is against the law.
so if a gamingmagazine wants to test the game and it gets on the index, the particular issue of the mag is prohibited to sale.
so don't get ur panties up in a bunch, it's just for the german version.
u'll get all the violence u need... :wtf:
Edit -
Carmageddon II in England had zombies instead of humans.the german version had robots...
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Must be why we dont have 'gibs' in Neocron.
Hope DoY brings a little more gratuitious violence, i mean ffs, we have strippers, so wheres my gibs dammit. :o
Moon strikers should fuck shit up, seriously, at the end of a cave you should have to seive through the remains of the queen. (maybe a gore patch, something like the xmas patch thats optional would be sweet, hey, does the xmas patch still work, might try & find it, I could use a little xmas cheer)i doubt it will happen, because then u could say bye bye NC in germany :\
funnily sex is aloud (a.k.a. strippers, nudity, u name it) both in games and media but violence isn't :wtf:
funnily sex is aloud (a.k.a. strippers, nudity, u name it) both in games and media but violence isn't
fair enuf too, sex is alot more 'natural' & common day occurence than violence, i can see the logic there. Sex should be A LOT easier to get access to than violence, but unfortunatley it seams to always be the other way around.
Hey, did anyone else get a little excited talking to the prostitute in PP2 (or 3) for the first time thinking they were gonna 'score' in-game. Id have to say that was the biggest buzz id had in any game, other than the first time I was PKed by starkes. (maybe i should get out more O_o )
ummm, so yer, KK change the Hooker scripting & get some sex animation in there, the German government wants you too...
Well, how about a violence patch for the rest of us? I want to kill someone with the Dev and have them run around on fire screaming before falling in a charred, smoking heap. I want to shoot someone with the Lib and see the exit wounds out the back with blood flying out after the bullets. I want a bayonet on the pain easer, so I can stab people to death with it. I want to cut the heads off of pk victoms and collect the skulls! Bring violence to Neocron!
Germany has some strict laws that prohibit graphic and/or un-necessary violence. The toning down applies there only.
LOL sucks for you guys :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
ResurgencE
28-06-04, 08:20
The dumbed-down version of the game is strictly produced for countries like Germany. The popular Team Fortress Classic mod for HL featured the normal humans running around and getting shot in my version of the game, and i'm in the Middle East.
However, gaming websites showed screenshots of the player characters as robots in the German version, and i think they didnt even bleed green goo when killed.
Nothing to worry about. Wont be the same case for us.
Well, how about a violence patch for the rest of us? I want to kill someone with the Dev and have them run around on fire screaming before falling in a charred, smoking heap. I want to shoot someone with the Lib and see the exit wounds out the back with blood flying out after the bullets. I want a bayonet on the pain easer, so I can stab people to death with it. I want to cut the heads off of pk victoms and collect the skulls! Bring violence to Neocron!
It'd require quite a bit of work to make it look impressive, but im with you there. We already have sexuality in the game, and (hopefully) an older gaming community. A little blood wont hurt anyone. :D
detailed violence against humens is allowed in germany. the games can still be sold. but you can not advertise them. and they are only sold to ppl over 18 that lower the profits of game companys.
games get that ban when their main focus is on killing ppl and you can not solve the game without.
canibalism: hmm, yes if i remember right its not a crime to 'eat' ppl but there where several othere crimes that are involve by doing.
we dont have to many ppl eating each other so no law is needed ;)
LOL sucks for you guys :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
haaah, the wonderful world of Amazon.com and a weak $ compared to €. well only the one week shipping is - bad
Well, how about a violence patch for the rest of us? I want to kill someone with the Dev and have them run around on fire screaming before falling in a charred, smoking heap. I want to shoot someone with the Lib and see the exit wounds out the back with blood flying out after the bullets. I want a bayonet on the pain easer, so I can stab people to death with it. I want to cut the heads off of pk victoms and collect the skulls! Bring violence to Neocron!it will NEVER happen from KKs side, program a patch urself is the only way.
I made a poll about being able to "gib" dead bodies so they couldn't be rezzed and added a line like "and add some blood, guts an stuff while ur at it", guess what 75% of the german community went mental on me saying i should fuck off and play CS/UT :wtf:
I for one am all for more violence (nice example with cutting heads of as a trophy, thought about that myself :x ), but it will NOT happen from KKs side
A general view on censorship from my part;
Generally, I accept movie censors and game censors. Basically because censorship is the modern day's tool to compensate for crappy parenting and that is unfortunately not something that will change as long as humans aren't genetically mutated och brainwashed by aliens.
For example, I watched movies like "The Thing" when I was 10. Furthermore I talked to my parents about porn, naked people and how stuff in generally works. Also, we talked about violence and TV.
So... am I fucked up? No.
Why? Because of good parenting.
No offense intended to anyone or anything, please note that. Also, I am not trying to state that I'm supposed to be some alfa being. I am just stating where I come from, how it has shaped me and how it colours my views.
HOWEVER... one type on censorship I DO NOT TOLERATE is the extremely disgusting and perverted censhorship televsion stations like MTV are doing.
I cannot believe what I am seeing at certain times.
Last example I saw was this show on MTV with Carmen Electra... First, they blurred out her breast region when her nipples was barely showing through the shirt... OMG WHAT A DISASTER. Second, she got some kind of cake for her birthday which had the form of a penis. Seriously, how traumatic must it be to see a penis shaped cake.
Of course, this was blurred out.
BUT.... Then they have the nerve to air shows like "I wanna be like..." (or whatever it's called now). Basically, and I could NOT believe it when I saw it, the show depicts young teenagers wanting to be their idol. One girl wanted to be like Britney Spears. So WHAT do they do? Yes, they show her blurting out "I'm gonna do a breast implant so I look like Britney Spears" and show how HAPPY she is about it. FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING... Good game.. indeed.
They can't show a friggin cake in the shape of a penis, but they can show young girls wanting breast operations (and even showing THE ACTUAL OPERATION) and how happy they will feel afterward.
FFS you make me sick. This is why I never watch the crap. If I do it's because I'm browsing past the channel and happen to stumble over things (like the lookalike program).
I hope people with this kind of double sided morals just implode and burn in whichever hell is applicable for their religion.
EOF.
Original monk
28-06-04, 08:52
They should just say "fuckit' & make it R rated, who needs 12 year-olds playing anyway.
the company's that want the money out of the 12 year-old kids parents wallets :P
and i read sumthing about cannibalism: so its ok to eat people but not to see someone bleed in a videogame ? last time i checked the videogame wasnt real, as in virtual, as in: it doesnt happens in real life, its a computergame :)
but yeah, i understand, computergames are the cause of all evil :)
wouldnt be the world much better of witouth em ?
:P
edit: mtv disgusts me mayourly also :/ everyone knows that a rapsong contains atleast 354 times the word fuck: if ya remove all the little fucks, shits, dope's, etc etc then ya get a woosy version about 20 times shorter with sumtimes silences of a second in the middle ... i didnt ask no-one to take out half of the song lol, they completely screw over songs and videoclips :/
and when eminem makes a song and i see it on mtv its called purple hills while actually the song goes: purple pills ... small diffrence not ?
i take a couple of hills ??? i cant pop no hills lol o_O
They have to make the blood green and the enemies as unhuman as possible in germany according to what ive heard
Censorship of violence on TV in the US is pretty bad on some channels... what drives me crazy are stations like TBS, that show almost non stop action movies... yet you cant really watch them... try watching predator, they must have cut out 10 minutes of violence, I feel bad for people who didnt see it on tape/dvd/movies, you have no idea how people died if you didnt. In total recal, they actually cut out the sounds of arnold breaking a guys next, and then later breaking some other bones... I mean wtf, we cant even hear the crunch!? Makes me sick the censorship some people feel is needed.
Censorship of violence on TV in the US is pretty bad on some channels... what drives me crazy are stations like TBS, that show almost non stop action movies... yet you cant really watch them... try watching predator, they must have cut out 10 minutes of violence
Depends on the State. In MA nearly everything was chopped to pieces. You could watch senseless violence early in the morning but the second someone swears or sex scene it was cut out totally.
In TX I noticed very little was censored.
But the US overall has the worst censorship laws bar prehaps China.
now imagine that on evry channel, in every movie, than u got german tv :|
Maybe its changed but last time I was in Germany some years back, violence and porn was easy to watch.
Censorship of violence on TV in the US is pretty bad on some channels... what drives me crazy are stations like TBS, that show almost non stop action movies... yet you cant really watch them... try watching predator, they must have cut out 10 minutes of violence, I feel bad for people who didnt see it on tape/dvd/movies, you have no idea how people died if you didnt. In total recal, they actually cut out the sounds of arnold breaking a guys next, and then later breaking some other bones... I mean wtf, we cant even hear the crunch!? Makes me sick the censorship some people feel is needed.now imagine that on every channel, in every movie, than u got german tv :|
german censorship isnt that bad. ok there are the usual worst examples like starship troopers and stuff where they cut half of the film just to show it before midnight.
at least nobody cares about nippelgate in germany.
as long as its no problem to get the original uncut version of a song/film/game i dont care.
games like postal - hmm - suck. they are only sold because of the violence and whats worse - they make ppl get used to stuff like that. whats the next border after playing footbal with somebodys head in "movie like GFX" ?
oh well lets ******** someone ingame because its only a game ? o_O
the best games/movies/books out there play with things in you mind to make them interesting.
Mumblyfish
28-06-04, 10:36
You... want to crush people under tanks... and blow their intestines out?
...
It's times like this I'm glad I've got consoles.
You... want to crush people under tanks... and blow their intestines out?
...
It's times like this I'm glad I've got consoles.
why?
a little violence never hurt anyone...
:lol:
Yes, I want to crush them under tank treads, I want to hear every bone snap and crush, and hear the organs pop in surround sound, and I want to leave a trail of blood... whats wrong with that?
If you could do that, people might use vehciles more... how much would it rock to hit someone in the 4X4 going full speed, hve them fly over the hood, and smash half way through the windshield, and have their body hanging there, bleeding on the dashboard, until you slam on the breaks, cause them to fly over the hood again to the ground, then run over them, back up, run over them again, then run over them again... be good and sure they are dead... id skill more driving for that. We can work that into Neocron, cant we? :D
Mumblyfish
28-06-04, 10:46
Yes, I want to crush them under tank treads, I want to hear every bone snap and crush, and hear the organs pop in surround sound, and I want to leave a trail of blood... whats wrong with that?
I'm not trying to go all moral police on you here (I'm the last person who should do that, I'm a bastard), but that'd just disgust me. To each their own, and all, but isn't what you're asking for a little bit too extreme?
Yes, I want to crush them under tank treads, I want to hear every bone snap and crush, and hear the organs pop in surround sound, and I want to leave a trail of blood... whats wrong with that?nothing
just take your medication and all is fine
edit - tbh i'm with vet on this one, i have nothing against violence, if it would be more even better
and yes i take my medication, most of the time...
Original monk
28-06-04, 11:54
id skill more driving for that. We can work that into Neocron, cant we? :D
yeah ffcourse ya skill some driving for that :) that would be worth the gimpage right :)
if you really "like" all the stuff youre telling here then go work on a emergency department in a hospital for a while ... im sure youre hunger for blood and broken bones will dissapear as snow for the sun.. not to say ya rather dont wonna see all that shit ...
things where talking about here on the forum (blood, violance, gore in games) is luckely virtual horror, there is no harm done in killing someone here, there is no fear, there is no pain ...
thats why i dont mind computerviolance ... ya can kill someone but youre opponent yust spawns away :)
It wouldnt be cosey going to an OPwar and having to sit next to youre dead buddy's body for a week and having to handle the smell of he's deteriorating body, yummi
more blood, sure :) its yust graphics
Yes, I want to crush them under tank treads, I want to hear every bone snap and crush, and hear the organs pop in surround sound, and I want to leave a trail of blood... whats wrong with that?
If you could do that, people might use vehciles more... ...
oh they would do too, if the impact damage the target. they dont do it because of the blood but the damage.
Germany has some strict laws that prohibit graphic and/or un-necessary violence. The toning down applies there only.
So what happens if some erm.. clever german orders a copy form somewehre else? They get a decent version i guess. :s
So why would anyone buy the game from the shop.
carmageddon 2 whit zombies easy to fix that look for a site that offers a blood patch and tada gone ar your zombie and hello human tagets
same for other games zombie`s and other crap just look for easy blood patches alteas that how i got my carmageddon whit humans again :P i hated the zombies
...So why would anyone buy the game from the shop.
not all german versions are shit. Half life one was an extreme bad move. but who cares if you kill robots in C&C or man? do you really care if there is blood or slime on the floor ? in far cry there isnt a big difference from the german to the international version.
remember we are talking about EXTREME violence and not about things like GTA-Vice or planetside.
Germany has some strict laws that prohibit graphic and/or un-necessary violence. The toning down applies there only.
Is it because their warfare was so lousy? :rolleyes:
Just because a game is violence they wont make a new *guy with bad moustache*, itīs just sad....
BTW Neocron German version is that to censored so it could hit the German market?
So what happens if some erm.. clever german orders a copy form somewehre else? They get a decent version i guess. :s
So why would anyone buy the game from the shop.
Not so many Germans, french to doesnt play english versions, why?
Dunno maybe to stubborn that they want a world wide language, but most south european countries are so to, before internet was here it was just lame. If you wanted to talk to a person you needed to their own language. Thank god we are more open now so you can ask the way to the mens room if you need to take a shit :p
yeah ffcourse ya skill some driving for that :) that would be worth the gimpage right :)
if you really "like" all the stuff youre telling here then go work on a emergency department in a hospital for a while ... im sure youre hunger for blood and broken bones will dissapear as snow for the sun.. not to say ya rather dont wonna see all that shit ...
things where talking about here on the forum (blood, violance, gore in games) is luckely virtual horror, there is no harm done in killing someone here, there is no fear, there is no pain ...
thats why i dont mind computerviolance ... ya can kill someone but youre opponent yust spawns away :)
It wouldnt be cosey going to an OPwar and having to sit next to youre dead buddy's body for a week and having to handle the smell of he's deteriorating body, yummi
more blood, sure :) its yust graphics
Thats just it, its just a game. No, I wouldnt do it in real life, but in movies/games the more violence, the merrier.
Here ya go Vet, watch the movies, should bring a smile to your face.
Happy Tree Friends - Say yes to violence (http://www.happytreefriends.com/watch_episodes/index.html)
Enjoy :D
If a game is good why does it matter how violent it is :confused:
Just because theres less blood/ sound effects doesnt mean the game would be any different...
I prefer to judge games on gameplay and films on story and acting, not how much blood guts and swearing can be fit in, i lost interest in that when i was 16 :rolleyes:
Well, how about a violence patch for the rest of us? I want to kill someone with the Dev and have them run around on fire screaming before falling in a charred, smoking heap. I want to shoot someone with the Lib and see the exit wounds out the back with blood flying out after the bullets. I want a bayonet on the pain easer, so I can stab people to death with it. I want to cut the heads off of pk victoms and collect the skulls! Bring violence to Neocron!
Shut up.
Mumblyfish
29-06-04, 08:56
I prefer to judge games on gameplay and films on story and acting, not how much blood guts and swearing can be fit in, i lost interest in that when i was 16 :rolleyes:
Quoted because Cyphor just won the thread. Big up yo'self!
Here ya go Vet, watch the movies, should bring a smile to your face.
Happy Tree Friends - Say yes to violence (http://www.happytreefriends.com/watch_episodes/index.html)
Enjoy :D
OMG I love this site! made me laugh out loud. thx for the link. Anyone who doesnt like it and is against it should be beaten to death with a spiked baeball bat, stabbed, hung, and set on fire.
We can find a nice G rated game for you opar, how about little girls tea part online? More your speed, lets hope someone makes it for you.
Gotterdammerung
29-06-04, 09:02
talk about things intelligently plz, lets not have another thread degenerate into a lobotomized, drooling rant
again, want it or not, here's my 2 cents! :lol:
If it doesn't take anything out of a game to make them non-human then why not? Honestly not enough games make you think about the moral implications of your actions... I have no problem with a game allowing you to blow dozens of people away, as long as they add enough realism to make it more than a 'see the baddie, pull the trigger' thing.
Deus Ex came close sometimes, but I'd like to see a game where excessive violence really mattered. Something like Neocrons SL, or just NPCs having negative reactions to the guy they jsut saw blow away an entire convoy and then go around finishing off survivors with a combat knife... It would be a great thing for realism, it wouldn't compromise violent content, it would just make it have natural consequences... now days most games that can be played non-lethally, no one does unless it's for the extra challenge or for some bonus (like Silent Assassin rank in Hitman codename 47), I'd liketo see people doing it for in character moral reasons.
As for TV and whatnot, they get it all wrong. They censor the everclear song "what it's like" even though it's ANTI-VIOLENCE... the cut it apart so bad you lose some of the anti-violence anti-drug message! same with movies... one of the saddest things I've ever heard is in the edited Rush Hour the cop yelling "Gena Mary and Joeseph!"
We can find a nice G rated game for you opar, how about little girls tea part online? More your speed, lets hope someone makes it for you.
Already found one thanks.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00009NH6E/qid=/br=1-3/ref=br_lf_t_3//002-3753633-8072816?v=glance&s=toys&n=171471
Im not saying violence is bad either. Im just saying, that I dont like the way you talk about it?
Yes, I want to crush them under tank treads, I want to hear every bone snap and crush, and hear the organs pop in surround sound, and I want to leave a trail of blood... whats wrong with that?
If you could do that, people might use vehciles more... how much would it rock to hit someone in the 4X4 going full speed, hve them fly over the hood, and smash half way through the windshield, and have their body hanging there, bleeding on the dashboard, until you slam on the breaks, cause them to fly over the hood again to the ground, then run over them, back up, run over them again, then run over them again... be good and sure they are dead... id skill more driving for that.
Ever been hit by a car?
Didnt think so.
No, I havnt. I suppose you or a freind were? so because of that, we cant have it in games? My worst bodily injry experince was probably in 7th grade, got my front tooth broken in half, and the nerve exposed. It hurt like hell, my mouth kept filling up with blood an I kept having to spit it out. I didnt cry when it happened but I did while they were working on it... I saw my own blood fly on the bib thing they give you. A horrible experince... does that mean I dont wanna be able to knock someones teach out in a game with the butt of my rifle? No. Bring on the game/movie violence please.
No, I havnt. I suppose you or a freind were? so because of that, we cant have it in games? My worst bodily injry experince was probably in 7th grade, got my front tooth broken in half, and the nerve exposed. It hurt like hell, my mouth kept filling up with blood an I kept having to spit it out. I didnt cry when it happened but I did while they were working on it... I saw my own blood fly on the bib thing they give you. A horrible experince... does that mean I dont wanna be able to knock someones teach out in a game with the butt of my rifle? No. Bring on the game/movie violence please.
Eh?
Just because you dont care anymore about your chipped tooth (bah, split in half, same thing o_O ) means you should shrug off the fact that SOME people who actually like to PLAY the game for gameplay, not gore, may be a little offended/hurt/certain 'scenes' could 'stimulate' bad memories?
And dont give me the 'Well turn the violence off' bull shit, what if people want violence in?
Now you gonna say 'Well dont take the risk'..... and I have to think about that one.
Eh?
Just because you dont care anymore about your chipped tooth (bah, split in half, same thing o_O ) means you should shrug off the fact that SOME people who actually like to PLAY the game for gameplay, not gore, may be a little offended/hurt/certain 'scenes' could 'stimulate' bad memories?
And dont give me the 'Well turn the violence off' bull shit, what if people want violence in?
Now you gonna say 'Well dont take the risk'..... and I have to think about that one.
heh , if they don't like violence I say they make option in game like "tun gore off"(no bool, no heads flying around, no torn bodies on the floor) instead of ruining game play for evryone eh? in all reality i couldn't care less what kind of memories it brings to someone when they c blood shooting up from the neck, for me it is entertaining and if they where to remove violence i simply get pissed and wont even bother playing. So i can only hope that article vet posted is only for german version......otherwise i am not even gonne get it(i prolly will, since i do not live by their rools, id find a crack that would show me the full beuty of hl2 violence :D)
And YES, its important to me, I really am pissed with how non violent games are getting (ex, why cant you blow someone to pieces in BF/BFV or crush someone into hamburger under a tanks treads, or bayonet someone and rip their intestines out)
It mostly of a statement that excessive violence exposed to children produce adults like.... well YOU.
It mostly of a statement that excessive violence exposed to children produce adults like.... well YOU.
lol not realy, GAME violence have very little on childs developmets(if they have parents who cares for them)am shure there should be sertain age for violent games but most ppl playing half life r teens and older so am shure there would be no harm done with a little violence(like someone intesting splattered ollover wall and sealings dripping blood) :lol: ...
Germany has some strict laws that prohibit graphic and/or un-necessary violence. The toning down applies there only.
I really think they all have the wrong idea. A lot of people get a release from video games that probably keeps them from killing people every day.
Mumblyfish
29-06-04, 21:42
lol not realy, GAME violence have very little on childs developmets(if they have parents who cares for them)am shure there should be sertain age for violent games but most ppl playing half life r teens and older so am shure there would be no harm done with a little violence(like someone intesting splattered ollover wall and sealings dripping blood) :lol: ...
So... where did you learn that dipshit hypothesis? Of course extreme violence in any type of media harms development. I mean... duh!
What did you say after the first set of brackets? "am shure there should be" and after? I didn't really understand a word of it...
I really think they all have the wrong idea. A lot of people get a release from video games that probably keeps them from killing people every day.
lol amen, if i couldn't go pk on me tank evry day I'd prolly would sloughter somm pll at work(*i get so frustrated working there lol :lol: )
What did you say after the first set of brackets? "am shure there should be" and after? I didn't really understand a word of it...
its cuz er stupid....
Mumblyfish
29-06-04, 22:18
its cuz er stupid....
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's because your spelling is appalling.
I asked nicely if you could rephrase it, and I get called stupid? Oh, the humanity!
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's because your spelling is appalling.
I asked nicely if you could rephrase it, and I get called stupid? Oh, the humanity!
thats why u r, even with my bad spelling evry person who has iq over 60 should be able to understand it, sorry but facts speaks for them selves. :rolleyes:
edit: new avatar looks much better
Gotterdammerung
29-06-04, 23:39
To you guys above
talk about things intelligently plz, lets not have another thread degenerate into a lobotomized, drooling rant
thats still applicable. if you don't like each other take it to pm's (bad spelling and all that goes with it)
there were a lot of posts so i apologise if this has been said befor.
the german version of the original half-life had robots instead of humans, so this is most likly tha case again here, only the german version will be toned down. so as long as your not in germany you can still be happy.
To you guys above
thats still applicable. if you don't like each other take it to pm's (bad spelling and all that goes with it)
no i like mumbly very much but not as much as i like "drooling rants" so there u have it. *drools on Gotterdammerung's shue*
yeee, am shure u all spell check evrything u wright in word or somthing, that doesn't make you more litterate then ppl who don't, so don't bother posting it cuz there only one impression u make ..........
sorry on topic:
Germany has some strict laws that prohibit graphic and/or un-necessary violence. The toning down applies there only.
s it's gonna be german version olny, in us we will be able to enjoy full gore :D
weehee
It mostly of a statement that excessive violence exposed to children produce adults like.... well YOU.
Dude, vettro is unique, we have all played games since an early age I would guess, my instance would be at the age of 4 on my bros amiga 500 that had ultra violent games on it like smash tv and things like that, i had an amstrad as well a low production console that has some extremely violent games on it.
It didnt diss-effect me, my little cousin luke who plays on nc every now and again on uranus with his pe squishling that i capped for him is the nicest kid you could meet but hes from the playstation generation and play's 2-3 hours on games like GTA Tenchu and other ultra violent games a day, on his xbox.
I think that is one nieve statement wether its a joke or not.
There are kids in america who say violent games influenced them, bullshit, USA has one of the highest populations in the world and they produce that 1 in every million psycho/born wrong person more often than any other. I remember seeing that combein massacre movie inwhich a reporter goes around interveiwing key members of certain aspects of the US gun culture, he also spoke to marilyn manson, the guy those psycho kids tried to blame for his lyrical influence, he was the only guy who said he would of listend to them rather than tell them.
Censorship is never a good thing, I admitt there should be guidelines and there will always be people who abuse the system, but over protection makes people more vunerable.
imo
~R
Mumblyfish
30-06-04, 00:10
no i like mumbly very much but not as much as i like "drooling rants" so there u have it. *drools on Gotterdammerung's shue*
Haha! <3 you Plaguey-waguey!
Mwah!
:angel:
Arn't cannible laws much lighter in Germany compared to the rest of the world?
Or am I getting that mixed up with something else?
I read in yesterdays paper that a pissed bloke put his body up for sale on Ebay for after he dies and a german cannibal emailed him offering Ģ2000 for the body :lol: he kept emailing but it all ended after he sent him a deaththreat and got arrested.
On topic. This is the best half life 2 fansite that will have it somewhere. http://www.halflife2.net/ and this is the Valve thread (gabe is actually registered and quite a few other Valve dudes on here) http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1298
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