View Full Version : Infight Turret drop, [English Community]
Striker Alsom
21-06-04, 16:17
Hi all,
in the German forum is a quite amusing thread (http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?t=101697) about the tactic (or lamenes, whatever) to drop turrets while fighting.
What do you think about a 30 second spawntime for turrets (and with this the constructor cant move while placing) ?
What do you think about a 30 second spawntime for turrets (and with this the constructor cant move while placing) ?
I think everyone likes that idea here too.
Turret whores aye?
Saturn -> Hi TG. o_O
Someone had an idea about all turrets starting at 1 health amd then gain health over time. And that was imo, the best solution to turret whoring.
I would prefer if the constructor had to build the turret insitu (in the OP... so it builds deployed).
IE with lots of parts and the time to build etc.
I would also like this to be the same with the vehicles. Only build em at an ASG etc so the finished product is spawned in front of you.
tomparadox
21-06-04, 16:52
Someone had an idea about all turrets starting at 1 health amd then gain health over time. And that was imo, the best solution to turret whoring.
ummm... no... if you do that, then a spider could could kill it, hell you could punch it once and its out...
maby have it start at like...45% or 50% of its normaly health, that way it has a chance to live...
edit: they aint that hard to destroy... its jest when people come in then stick them on the hack thing and all that when your randomly fighting, but still...
Clownst0pper
21-06-04, 16:55
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ummm... no... if you do that, then a spider could could kill it, hell you could punch it once and its out...
maby have it start at like...45% or 50% of its normaly health, that way it has a chance to live...
edit: they aint that hard to destroy... its jest when people come in then stick them on the hack thing and all that when your randomly fighting, but still...
Well, the point of this is that they wont be usefull to drop in the middle of a fight. U can still clear the area of "spiders", and place it, before the fight. And turrets are hard to kill, if theres a PPU sheltering and defclecting these, they are indestructable.
Yeah, get rid of turret drops midfight TOTALLY.
Clownst0pper
21-06-04, 18:20
Bah mine got edited.
By the by, u can still stealth drop turrets, and instead of specing poking/hacking, just spec constructing - voi la
before you whiners get something else ruined
its bad enough now that if your the only one to defend the op and are a tank or a apu you cannot drop turrets
just stfu and deaL with it turrets are part of game AND do not make ops impenatrable
you whiners already got crazy construction reqs on them just stfu and deal with em
TURRETS ARE PART OF GAME
Y'know how when you put a BP and parts in the processor and you hear the *click* of the building process starting? Then the little bar putts along and you hear the *click* again that it's done. That's how turret placing should go. Put the Turret Package in the processor with a Contstruction tool and click start. You don't need to be frozen as your speed while constructing is already limited, the build should take about as long as any other item of it's TL, a good 15-20 seconds. When the click is done, wherever you're standing, Mr. Turret appears, with full HP.
</two cents>
Doc Holliday
21-06-04, 19:30
Y'know how when you put a BP and parts in the processor and you hear the *click* of the building process starting? Then the little bar putts along and you hear the *click* again that it's done. That's how turret placing should go. Put the Turret Package in the processor with a Contstruction tool and click start. You don't need to be frozen as your speed while constructing is already limited, the build should take about as long as any other item of it's TL, a good 15-20 seconds. When the click is done, wherever you're standing, Mr. Turret appears, with full HP.
</two cents>
perfect. skip the fact of carrying the bits in the inv. the poor ickle spy got enough to do cartin the turrets round let alone parts as well.
Y'know how when you put a BP and parts in the processor and you hear the *click* of the building process starting? Then the little bar putts along and you hear the *click* again that it's done. That's how turret placing should go. Put the Turret Package in the processor with a Contstruction tool and click start. You don't need to be frozen as your speed while constructing is already limited, the build should take about as long as any other item of it's TL, a good 15-20 seconds. When the click is done, wherever you're standing, Mr. Turret appears, with full HP.
</two cents>
good idea
hit stealth 2, start build
stealth ends
turret drops
Someone had an idea about all turrets starting at 1 health amd then gain health over time. And that was imo, the best solution to turret whoring.
wow that is good idea. maybe i would recomend using remote repair tool.
ah yes, not start at 1 but at 30%
good idea
hit stealth 2, start build
stealth ends
turret drops
My opinion is based on the fact that:
Outpost Turrets- Turrets can no longer be placed if the player has stealth activated.
Like the Patch 198/199 (http://www.neocron.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=504&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0) notes clearly stated. If people can still stealth drop, then KK didn't code it right. The build/placement should be cancelled if you stealth.
Turrets also should be repairable with the Remote Repair tool.
But turrets should not be repairable by LE users with a remote repair tool... ;)
before you whiners get something else ruined
its bad enough now that if your the only one to defend the op and are a tank or a apu you cannot drop turrets
just stfu and deaL with it turrets are part of game AND do not make ops impenatrable
you whiners already got crazy construction reqs on them just stfu and deal with em
TURRETS ARE PART OF GAMEI'll have to disagree with you here man :\
If you're the only one to defend the Op then well sorry you lose. Turrents should be placed during non battle moments not when the heat has already started.
But turrets should not be repairable by LE users with a remote repair tool... ;)
hmm, why not. but thread it as an attack on the turret :D
yes, but thats a godo point. (hmm i think then it should be clanmembers only.) <-- €oh wait. bad move. just everyone without LE...
v[ortice']I would prefer if the constructor had to build the turret insitu (in the OP... so it builds deployed).
IE with lots of parts and the time to build etc.
This is actually a very good idea, rather than a clan being allowed to stock up on turrets and use them whenever, the constructor actually has to build the things from a BP and parts, standing where they want the turret dropped and then it auto-deploys. They could remove the cst requirement entirely from turrets because as TL 100 or whatever you'd need a good constructor to build them in the first place. Not many good constructors would gimp their dex to stealth either.
{MD}GeistDamnit
22-06-04, 04:05
30 second construct no matter the TL is a great idea, even if they removed the 100cst requirement. Dont know why they havent done it allready yet? what does it hurt? lamers dropping turrets mid fight, that's all... ;)
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