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Shujin
15-06-04, 21:16
At least on saturn it is. If u check ur mail, FRE. If you do almost anything... FRE.

40$Poser
15-06-04, 21:17
At least on saturn it is. If u check ur mail, FRE. If you do almost anything... FRE.

Other people are getting them, but it must be everyone's computer ^^


(sorry had to say it lol)

maybe it is an event :D

ZyproN
15-06-04, 21:25
a EVENT im get fatal if i move cant read mails cant do anything REALY nice event im not clanned i dont fucking now what i am all my stuff is gone!!! YEHAA!!

tiikeri
15-06-04, 21:29
Yeah, nice FEATURE today.. yesterdays zoning / placing problems... and now this? citycom is purely fucked up :) Cant press Mail nor mission - haven't tried anything else without having FRE. +++ the GM help button thinggy is messed up too. like last time i checked my name was wannabe, not 13.... :)

EDIT: i hope they are not watching football....

Shujin
15-06-04, 21:29
http://www.neotarin.com/shot0078.JPG

AND FRE's ARE HAPPENING TO EVERYONE AT RANDOM INTRAVELS >;O WTF?!?!

Genty
15-06-04, 21:32
I ain't stuck in my appartment although the citycoms on Saturn are serverly messed.

Magic Sausage
15-06-04, 21:32
Lol my name is 14


I am in the snake caves


NEED REPPER.. TL 1,000,000 For NC server Work.. DM 14 for Details

Garg [RogueNET]
15-06-04, 21:33
this is just bad.. my backpack dont exist.... :S

tomparadox
15-06-04, 21:34
wow, that sounds fuxxored O_o

ZyproN
15-06-04, 21:34
Everything is fucket i cant move and if i press anything i got a FATAL this is so great!

Gohei
15-06-04, 21:35
Yeah i was like wtf i can't change zone :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: ...
And i got a mail, even tho i never get mails, so i go to the citycom to check, and what do you know, I crash. Log back on, go to a citycom- crash. So i'm gone brows the forums and scratch my nuts untill it's fixed.. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Heretic Shadow
15-06-04, 21:35
everyone has mail, no one can team and people cant get their back packs, if people cant get their shit back, lots of people will be leaving. i hope they do a roll back ....

Garg [RogueNET]
15-06-04, 21:35
everyone is recieving mails.. it says u got like 20 mails but the CC is empty

Gohei
15-06-04, 21:35
']this is just bad.. my backpack dont exist.... :S


Pwnt, thats how i lost my very first CS. :lol:

Cor
15-06-04, 21:36
Yes Stuck in apt. Shujin where you get that ROSP I like the Look of it Where can i get it?

Shujin
15-06-04, 21:36
everyone has mail, no one can team and people cant get their back packs, if people cant get their shit back, lots of people will be leaving. i hope they do a roll back ....
no one can team? well i keep gettin random invites for team from %unknown%

ZyproN
15-06-04, 21:36
A ROLE BACK no way then im off just got my 3 Herc and 2 ds parts! that i needed

Shujin
15-06-04, 21:38
Yes Stuck in apt. Shujin where you get that ROSP I like the Look of it Where can i get it?
http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?t=101114

I am P
15-06-04, 21:38
Weeehaaaaa Super Saturn!!!! :)

Nidhogg
15-06-04, 21:40
Saturn is receiving attention as I type.

N

40$Poser
15-06-04, 21:41
Saturn is receiving attention as I type.

N

don't stop typing nid!

(sorry had to do that)


Err um. Yay 1 min till reboot

LiL T
15-06-04, 21:43
rollback would suck I just done proto epic :(

I am P
15-06-04, 21:44
Saturn is receiving attention as I type.

N

What is the problem?
Is there something that can be done to prevent these things to happening again?
Didnt anyone notice that the problems already started yesterday?

Best regards
P

ZyproN
15-06-04, 21:44
not more worse then my case just hunted at mc5 today got the 3 last herc and 2 ds parts i needed.

)iMpLoSiOn(
15-06-04, 21:45
omg, thats really *wordsmissing*
i got email... then not looking at terminal.. fatal. I cant team members.. because already teamed with others i dont know ... LOOL

:(

LiL T
15-06-04, 21:45
I bet people will lose there stuff

jiga
15-06-04, 21:46
I just saw some people drop dead on the floor for no reason.

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ZyproN
15-06-04, 21:48
Great just logged one moved to citycom and got a sync ^^

MjukisDjur
15-06-04, 21:49
I bet people will lose there stuff

We atleast know for sure many people will claim that they lost mc5 chips etc :)

Nidhogg
15-06-04, 21:49
Thread merged.

N

Herbitt
15-06-04, 21:50
If i lose my appt cabinet contents again because of this, and i get some bollocks email 'there was no database failiure' ... i swear to god ..

Archeus
15-06-04, 21:52
Please fix Saturn ASAP so the morons will go back to their server.*


* Not all Saturn are morons but the ratio of morons on pluto has increased by x1000

Gohei
15-06-04, 21:54
Please fix Saturn ASAP so the morons will go back to their server.*


* Not all Saturn are morons but the ratio of morons on pluto has increased by x1000

Great idea, gotta go bother ppl @ Pluto.

tomparadox
15-06-04, 22:05
Great idea, gotta go bother ppl @ Pluto.
thank god im on uranus :p

tiikeri
15-06-04, 22:08
lets all get on jupiter and start talking english there ^_^

no i'm not having problem with ppl talking german @ saturn, specially when i can't understand a word of it [/sarcasm] ;)

Omnituens
15-06-04, 22:10
Im going to Venus to say hi

yeah... to say hi...

will4green
15-06-04, 22:10
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bluelights
15-06-04, 23:13
this is really bad, i have put up with KK's shit for to long now, saturn is down and offline for over an hour, just before it went offline i was having major problems, and i just got all the parts to my psi core, i realllly hope it is still there.

to whom it may concern :-

stop working on DOY and fix your shitty server problems and laggg .. really it is begining to annoy me majorly, if you cant get the neocron servers operating correctly then dont work on DOY, we would never have these problems if this was a Sony game or so, i mean really guys, u have all these problems then when you receive emails about people loosing stuff you dont care, you do not care about your existing customers instead you are looking to DOY to re-launch the game and consume more people and money then, and there is not even any call for beta testers for DOY, shit bring back the Beta 4 days anytime....... im going to give this game one more chance after these issues are sorted, if i get anything more like this, then i will quit and thats it....infact i think we should start a strike and nobody play neocron until they employee some experts to sort the servers out.

really guys this is very bad service from you, spend some money and sort it out please, or start a charity and we will all donate you a few quid each so u can sort it, a lot of us only play neocron and we deserve good service not some shitty lag and crap..... each patch there is some crap, stop trying to do to much and sort out all the existing bugs, DOY is delayed for years now

br

Tratos
15-06-04, 23:29
@ above post.


Here's a quick statement about some of the current issues:

C) The server hardware and the dbase will be heavily upgraded and/or exchanged. The new setup will be tested during the beta-test, which will launch between late July and mid August.
But yes it is a problem now, i really dont understand how the servers are getting so fucked up when there has been less stress on them with the servers max population dropping between 50-100 players latly.

SirRah
15-06-04, 23:34
Please fix Saturn ASAP so the morons will go back to their server.*


* Not all Saturn are morons but the ratio of morons on pluto has increased by x1000

i can only second that. hope its up very soon! for the love of the other servers please fix saturn!

some of those saturn guys invaded uranus and you could see how fast it was full of crap.

ezza
15-06-04, 23:36
man this sucks, glad i was at my martial arts class tonight so at least i shouldnt lose anything.

was looking forward to a hour or so of leveling before i hit the sack

SorkZmok
15-06-04, 23:37
SERVES YOU RIGHT SATURN! THATS MY REVENGE FOR YOU PPL SPAMMING AND PKING ON URANUS, HAHAHAHA.


Sorry. ;)

ezza
15-06-04, 23:40
SERVES YOU RIGHT SATURN! THATS MY REVENGE FOR YOU PPL SPAMMING AND PKING ON URANUS, HAHAHAHA.


Sorry. ;)
if i had a char on uranus i would have a sudden urge to go pking there right now ;)

Sigma
15-06-04, 23:40
SERVES YOU RIGHT SATURN! THATS MY REVENGE FOR YOU PPL SPAMMING AND PKING ON URANUS, HAHAHAHA.


Sorry. ;)
and i'm an asshole on the forums? :O

HAR HAR

:D

SamuraiPizzaCat
15-06-04, 23:42
time to log the melee nib of doom and PK on uranus :p
NOOB PEEKAYYYY

MonsterMatze
15-06-04, 23:43
SERVES YOU RIGHT SATURN! THATS MY REVENGE FOR YOU PPL SPAMMING AND PKING ON URANUS, HAHAHAHA.


Sorry. ;)


who got pwn3d ^_^

SorkZmok
15-06-04, 23:48
who got pwn3d ^_^

and i'm an asshole on the forums? :O

HAR HAR

:D
You 2 really think it was cool what you did, right?
"OMFG I PKARZORD YOU ALL NIBS OMG LOLOL FUFUKOSHAHA!"
Damn, i`ll never understand ppl like you.
o_O

Dribble Joy
15-06-04, 23:51
Some 'people', decided it would be good fun, to log some uranus alts (CM - unclanned) and go ganking at MB, killing everyone.

DJ - 'we don't faction/ally kill here'
Fucktard - 'We don't care'
DJ - 'what's the point? you like causing people immense frustration without reason?'
Fucktard - 'Its's fun LOL!!1!'

Gank
Gank
Gank
Gank
Gank
Gank
etc, etc....

/set OOC_smacktalk 1

Fucktards - 'Off to TH!!1111LOL11!'

Sigma
16-06-04, 00:11
Some 'people', decided it would be good fun, to log some uranus alts (CM - unclanned) and go ganking at MB, killing everyone.

DJ - 'we don't faction/ally kill here'
Fucktard - 'We don't care'
DJ - 'what's the point? you like causing people immense frustration without reason?'
Fucktard - 'Its's fun LOL!!1!'

Gank
Gank
Gank
Gank
Gank
Gank
etc, etc....

/set OOC_smacktalk 1

Fucktards - 'Off to TH!!1111LOL11!'
first of all, i never said we were doing it for fun.

we started because some, how did u put it? ah yeah "fucktards". some fucktards thought they could PK us, they killed the CM but got wiped out by me and the others.

so maybe before starting to bitch like a 6-yr old, just maybe u should THINK a little bit



and btw. if u got problems on uranus with average skill /40 and /50 runners who "pk", then i don't even want to know what happens if some "real" pkers get on uranus :wtf:

ZoomZoom
16-06-04, 00:44
i want my saturn im bored shitless on uranus killing aggies with a tl 38 pistol :mad: plus his got -17 sl because i got bored :rolleyes:


FIX SATURN!!!!!

Tratos
16-06-04, 00:48
Wee...

did you miss that HUGE (http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=101307) thread further down the forum?

i think they're on to it by now, just chill get some sleep play other games socialise for a while, it'll be sorted in a bit.

ZoomZoom
16-06-04, 00:52
ive platyed coh and my freinds just left like 30 mins ago so its neocron time :mad:

thats it im going down stairs get a beer and food come up and if saturn isnt up im gonna learn vb..... and make a better neocron ...... with hookers........and black jack.............. ah forget the whole thing

Tratos
16-06-04, 01:01
Ouch,

http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=101310

There still working on it...

This does NOT sound good.

Hope your server is up by tommorow.

winnoc
16-06-04, 01:14
Hmm, i wonder where i'll be at, i was hunting rares in a rhino.

Guess i'll have lost them if they do a reset. And i Don't want to start loming again either!!!!!


Makes me wish i had started out on uranus in the first place.

bluelights
16-06-04, 01:22
thinking back on my original post i may have sounded a bit harsh towards KK, i have calmed down a bit, however that was my feeling at the time..... but seriously there must be something badly wrong cause its 12:30am and its been off for a few hours now... :(((

Gohei
16-06-04, 01:24
Get it up allready :mad:

I've been rolling my thumbs for about 2 hours now, staring at the "offline" message.

Omnituens
16-06-04, 01:30
im gonna learn vb..... and make a better neocron ...... with hookers........and black jack.............. ah forget the whole thing
Bender 3:16 Rules!

Gohei
16-06-04, 01:32
"Shell be coming 'round the mountain when she comes" :lol:

Tratos
16-06-04, 01:47
check the announcement...

sorry guys:(

safetycopy
16-06-04, 01:52
This really is piss-poor service from KK... I totally agree with what someone said above: forget DoY and get this working as is, otherwise you're going to lose a lot of 'customers'... Servers and server people really aren't that expensive ^^

I also have to say that I think it's way rude to just say 'servers down til morning so go play elsewhere'... I don't have chars on other servers, nor do I feel like making them atm... I pay to play the chars I've created and KK should pay more attention to the phrase 'I pay to play'... Maybe I'd cause KK less hassle by playing another game? No, didn't think so...

P.S. - With all the silly bitching above, this thread was devolving into something like the trade channel can be on Saturn LOL

IceStorm
16-06-04, 02:25
i really dont understand how the servers
Stop right there. It's not plural. It's ONE SERVER that consistently has issues - Saturn. The rest are either devoid of major problems (Pluto, Venus), or have very few (Jupiter, Uranus).
Servers and server people really aren't that expensive ^^I really doubt it's the hardware or the people that are the problem. It's probably a database issue where it can't keep up with four slots per player and the higher load on Saturn as compared to the other servers.

It would be cool to graph player slot switching and overlay it with a graph that shows when Saturn gets hosed...

safetycopy
16-06-04, 02:44
Databases are only as good as the system they're running on, or the people that set them up...

safetycopy
16-06-04, 02:46
Just a thought...

If player slot switching is an issue, maybe KK should implement some solution that makes it easier to move stuff between chars? I like the idea of being able to designate a recipient when putting stuff in a gogo...

IceStorm
16-06-04, 03:11
Databases are only as good as the system they're running on, or the people that set them up...Throwing people/equipment at MySQL's shortcomings (what you suggested) isn't going to fix the problem. There is supposed to be (or was supposed to be) a database move at some point to another platform. Obviously KK's aware of issues with MySQL, but you're trying to say they should throw more hardware/people at the problem. The problem isn't the hardware or the people, it's the database being used, and that's not something your suggested quick fix can address.
maybe KK should implement some solution that makes it easier to move stuff between chars?They have one, a very good one that works really well on Pluto - buy a second account! I routinely play NC on two separate machines so I can shuffle between my three accounts. Tweak your localport in the ini and you're good to go.

If you wanna twink, you gotta pay - either in downtime or with a second account. Saturn does the former, Pluto does the latter.

safetycopy
16-06-04, 03:25
Fair point I suppose...

MySQL ^^ I thought that was only any good as a website back-end LOL

DarkOmen
16-06-04, 03:37
It is only good as a back-end.

From what I hear as a rumour, 2-3 day rollback. Lets see what I lose if that happens, hmmm 29 mill, and a DS.

My PPU was finally decent, and I spent all last night lomming points. I'm not going through that shit again. I spent a lot of time getting that shit, a lot of trading and whatnot. If its 2 day, you go right before I got the parts for the SA I built, which I sold for 60 mill. and I sold other things that totalled to about 59 mill, and bought a DS. So basically, you fuck my ppu up, and my chances of getting the exact parts I got at MC5 AGAIN. Oh and the lomming, probably 6-7 hours of lomming. Wasted time, figures I do it all when the servers being rolled back.

Ever heard of the straw that broke the camels back? Yeah, we'll I'm one crippled camel.

DarkOmen

LiL T
16-06-04, 03:46
2-3 day rollback!!!!!!!1 :mad:

may as well delete my tank if that happens I'll be pissed :mad:

Underground
16-06-04, 03:58
2-3 day rollback!!!!!!!1 :mad:

may as well delete my tank if that happens I'll be pissed :mad:


betcha it was melee yea ? :lol:

LiL T
16-06-04, 03:59
betcha it was melee yea ? :lol:

No he was/is heavy combat

Edit

I'm not gonna be one of these claw swinging noobs no sir

Heretic Shadow
16-06-04, 04:06
........... ............ ............. bollocks......

posterR456
16-06-04, 04:07
I sync error into some wierd aprtment. I was unable to use the apt. lift. So when ever i get stuck like that I use the /set kill_self 1. BAD IDEA WAS NOT ABLE TO USE RECOVER MY BACKPACK FROM GR. Tried to ? a gm, but the rpos was bugged :( . Then I saw I had mail, went to a city com click the mail tab. boom crash, and was not able to log back into the game. This all happened 7 or 8 hours ago. still am not able to log on.

I didn't lose enough stuff for a 2-3 day revert. I vote take the loss and move on.

if anyone see a backpack for flimflam in a turbolift DM/mail/whatever flimflam,freg,caga,raga please.

Jake Cutter
16-06-04, 04:09
Saturn has been acting up for months. Whether it is lag, Level 3, database problems, screwy transcontinental routers, exhausted hamsters or whatever, we all come to the forum and post our various theories as to what the problem might be.

In all of the threads, I have never seen KK post an explanation as to exactly what the problem is. (maybe they have, but I didn't see it) While we are not necessarily entitled to a detailed explanation, it would be nice to let us know just what the problem is. And as has been proven in the past, a little forthright info from KK goes a long way with the user base.

So this is for you KK...what exactly has been (and still is) the problem with Saturn?

Regards,
Jake Cutter

Moofausa
16-06-04, 04:18
It's KK Give them a break.. just like how your giving them a break on DOY *cough* not coming out *cough*... :lol:

DarkOmen
16-06-04, 04:25
hehe Terror I was there when you were doing the epic, you were there when I got my DS. (I'm Mr. Parker case you can't remember).

If they roll back it'll probably take me a long time to get a DS again, seeing as the sequence of events that happened leading to all of it will never happen again. (A DS for me is a big thing, I was a poor bastard 3 days ago). Sick of shit like this, might just quit.

amfest
16-06-04, 04:26
all the bad vibes from saturn have seeped into the database :D

well crap happens. I"m sure once they drive out to where the servers are if they can't fix it remotely it'll get settled out.

Moofausa
16-06-04, 04:30
ohnoz you guys are playing neocron.. if you have been playing for over 3 months you should be use to it .. get over it and ask for your share of 100k.. good game sir :lol:

LiL T
16-06-04, 04:31
I know who you are dark :)

I spent alot of time on that tank I made lvling solo AOE ing mobs for hours and hours took the risk to run through TG/MB to get armour on my PE char. Yeah spent alot of time and money done proto epic with my spy so that I could hopefully trade the chip for a marine to speed things up abit. Damn if I have to do this all over again I don't know if I could be bothered for at least another 3 months :(

Moofausa
16-06-04, 04:34
78 dex on pe in 2-3 days they roll back further then that im out for a couple months sick of this overpoweredmeleenonterminatorbuggycron.. :rolleyes:

LiL T
16-06-04, 04:37
Well I have played other games lineage 1 springs to mind and when there server goes down and people lose items and exp they do something cool. They run an event for a few days where the drop rate is increased money items and that sort of thing drop alot more from the mobs. I just lightens the blow and allows the players to gain back some stuff they lost

Moofausa
16-06-04, 04:39
yeah but that takes work.. also people complain about events.. GM's arent paid why should they log on.. you see french server have an event everyday.. meow and gg

Samhain
16-06-04, 04:40
Rollback = cancelled accounts.

LiL T
16-06-04, 04:50
I'm just looking at the date right now we have about 2 months and 14 days till Bdoy I hope when Bdoy is out these problems are fixed. I expect a massive influx of players like 800 plus on saturn will it cope?

Moofausa
16-06-04, 04:51
I hope for atleast 250 hah.. hah.. and by that time I predict EQ2 will be out so.. err. i don't know

Archeus
16-06-04, 07:55
Rollback = cancelled accounts.

Yea because having completly screwed up characters due to corruption is much more fun for everyone. Get a grip.

SorkZmok
16-06-04, 08:01
first of all, i never said we were doing it for fun.

we started because some, how did u put it? ah yeah "fucktards". some fucktards thought they could PK us, they killed the CM but got wiped out by me and the others.

so maybe before starting to bitch like a 6-yr old, just maybe u should THINK a little bit



and btw. if u got problems on uranus with average skill /40 and /50 runners who "pk", then i don't even want to know what happens if some "real" pkers get on uranus :wtf:We never said you did it for fun, we said you do it cause you could "PKARZ TEH NOOBS LOLOL FUKOSKOS".
And your post actually proved that. Think about it (asshole)...

DonnyJepp
16-06-04, 08:09
So did Martin's girlfriend back into the server rack in his garage again? How long has Saturn been "offline"?

mishkin
16-06-04, 08:14
My theory:

Someone came up with an idea on how to send spam through the ingame mail-system, thus fucking everything in the process :p

Archeus
16-06-04, 08:20
Heh I hit resume and within 20 seconds I realise Saturn is down.
- GR camping at Battle dome.
- Newbie Pk'ing in aggie den.
- People talking about how GMs are corrupt.
- Some players telling people to remove their LE so they can kill them.
- Channel spamming

So tell me again why Saturn is such a good server?

Bl@zed
16-06-04, 10:12
jesus fucking christ if we get a 2-3 day rollback i will be sooo fuckign pissed. I just got a 4 slot slasher :mad:

ezza
16-06-04, 11:57
Heh I hit resume and within 20 seconds I realise Saturn is down.
- GR camping at Battle dome.
- Newbie Pk'ing in aggie den.
- People talking about how GMs are corrupt.
- Some players telling people to remove their LE so they can kill them.
- Channel spamming

So tell me again why Saturn is such a good server?
all adds to the fun danger and excitement of the server.

except the Gm corrupt talk, which i cant comment on cos it gets pwned by mods

winnoc
16-06-04, 12:04
Well, i've been playing the game since november 2003, and i've been more and more convinced i should've started on uranus to begin with.

I was there yesterday, and they do pk also, but not in such extremes, and they are generaly nicer people to noob chars.

I was hunting for rareparts on my HC tank, and if they roll back two days that means i'll have to relom my constructor, my researcher adn my spy, who lomed almost all his points to become melee.

If I have to do that all over, i might just go level up on uranus and considder saturn my vacation server. (i'll miss all my cool friends on saturn though)

formori
16-06-04, 12:25
im happy all thats going in saturn, so it dosnt happen on pluto :p

N1n3
16-06-04, 12:27
We never said you did it for fun, we said you do it cause you could "PKARZ TEH NOOBS LOLOL FUKOSKOS".
And your post actually proved that. Think about it (asshole)...


we (sigma, etc) got pked first. btw, pls define "newb".. most of our victims were highlvl.

DarkOmen
16-06-04, 13:12
Whew, saturns back, rolled a bit, not too much. I still have my DS, and 9 lom pills to take :P So it was rolled to about 28 hours ago... pretty much exactly.

Iorghe
16-06-04, 13:18
thread closed - saturn is back online