My First Setup

[PenguinNick]

This is the very first setup I have ever done, and I wanted to get opinions on it:

Private Eye


INT:75 Base:60
HCK:105 Base:72
BRT:0 Base:0
PSU:82 Base:82
WEP:83 Base:70
CST:0 Base:0
RES:15 Base:0
IMP:4 Base:0
RCL:0 Base:0


DEX: 96 Base: 80
P-C:180 Base:150
R-C:0 Base:0
T-C:14 Base:0
VHC:0 Base:0
AGL:102 Base:38
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:0 Base:0


STR:65 Base:60
M-C:61 Base:61
H-C:6 Base:6
TRA:106 Base:106
FOR:113 Base:75


CON:65 Base:65
BodyHealth:319
Stamina:50
ATL:72 Base:40
HLT:73 Base:50
END:30Base:0
FIR:15 Base:0
ENR:75 Base:60
XRR:103 Base:80
POR:70 Base:45


PSI:35 Base:35
PSI-Pool:80
PPU:80 Base:80
APU:0 Base:0
MST:43 Base:43
PPW:14 Base:14
PSR:0 Base:38



Implants:
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
Special Forces CPU
BIOTECH (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
PROTOPHARM RESISTOR CHIP
Pistol Combateye 3
Filter Heart 1
Advanced Nerves 3
Crahn Power Gauntlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Bat Queen Chestenforcment
Bat Queen Armenforcment
Experimental Legenforcement
Experimental Footenforcement

Armor:
Inquisitionhelmet 3
Viper King Armor
Medium Energy Protection Belt
Inquisitiontrousers 3
Heavy-Inquisitionboots

Buffs:
Crahn Pistol Combat Booster 1, Crahn Basic Resist Booster 2, Crahn Spy Booster 1
Crahn Shelter - Crahn Blessed Deflector selfcast

Drugs:
Redflash, Beast


Armor:
Piercing: 231
Force: 232
Fire: 127
Energy: 116
Xray: 121
Poison: 100

Protection:
Piercing: 95%
Force: 95%
Fire: 91 - 95%
Energy: 89 - 95%
Xray: 90 - 95%
Poison: 66.67%

Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 6 - 4%
Force: 6 - 4%
Fire: 7 - 6%
Energy: 7 - 6%
Xray: 7 - 6%
Poison: 11%

[cataclysm]

pretty good setup...this is mine...

SA
SF
moveon
pp resistor
rifle eye 3
filter heart 2
dex boost 3


antigamma head and arm
experimental foot and leg
batqueen chest

pe rifle pa 3
durnit pants 2
medium inq boots
inq helm 2
medium energy belt

const:
130 resist xray
100 resist energy
and the rest to athletics and body health (i cant remember ofhand)

str:
all split equally between resist force and transport

int: 90 hacking
and the rest to weaponlore

psi: 65 ppu
40 mst
the rest to psi power

dex: 170 rifle combat
45 recycle
the rest to agility




thats my setup...


is it any good?

[Houston]

pretty good setup...this is mine...

SA
SF
moveon
pp resistor
rifle eye 3
filter heart 2
dex boost 3


antigamma head and arm
experimental foot and leg
batqueen chest

pe rifle pa 3
durnit pants 2
medium inq boots
inq helm 2
medium energy belt

const:
130 resist xray
100 resist energy
and the rest to athletics and body health (i cant remember ofhand)

str:
all split equally between resist force and transport

int: 90 hacking
and the rest to weaponlore

psi: 65 ppu
40 mst
the rest to psi power

dex: 170 rifle combat
45 recycle
the rest to agility




thats my setup...


is it any good?
Thats the most shit ive ever heard no psi use on a pe....shit i would post mine but its to ubar,muahahha

[PenguinNick]

id like to hear what little terror has to say about my setup, i know he's really good

[cataclysm]

oh yea psi use forgot that :P i have like 50 something psi use :\

[PenguinNick]

is it good for a FIRST setup tho?

[Houston]

Wait is LiL T little terror wow if so im fuckign stupid never thought about that hahaha hope to see ya soon on pluto.

[LiL T]

Use all anti gamma gives 50 armor value no need for batqween use stam boosts lom some xray put it into health and try get a little bit more ATH

[LiL T]

oh and if no PA use crahn boots instead of inq boots then rework the con setup and you will find you have yet more points to play with ;)

[Dribble Joy]

127 fire/xray yet 116 energy, with 319 hp.

Brrrrrrrr.

My PE (with a Kami) is tougher than you are.

Advanced neves 3?
WHAT?

You have SA, SF, moveon and ppr, the same as my old setup, yet 131 less hp and lower resists.

Drawing board forth ye shall returneth.

[QuantumDelta]

Get rid of those horrible backbones guys.
Horrible horrible backbones.

And try to find some more useful ways to get *EVERYTHING* out of your PEs.

Decide what weapons you wanna use and therefore what DEX Level you will need, then decide if you are going to be using medium energy resist belt (INT 66) and how to get to that INT while maintaining the DEX for the gun you want, also, try to figure out how to get your STR as high as possible whilst still maintaining your INT and DEX.

After that, start worrying about non-mainstat skills, this consideration may make you go back to your mainstat skills and take some implants out of there to go into mainstat chips, like distance 3, or ppr.

Include Armor in your CON Setup, remember that if your armor is specialised in one thing mainly but is helping other areas too you will want to mainly focus on those other areas in CON.

Remember, PEs need everything to be at the highest it can be without compromising whatever else that setup is trying to achieve;
There's no point in having 200 in every resist if you can't even use a BlackSun.
There's no point in having 200 in every resist and 200 hp.
There's no point in having 595 HP and 50 in every resist.
There's no point in having really high ATL and no HP/Resists.

You have to find a balance :)

[PenguinNick]

[QUOTE=Dribble Joy]
Advanced neves 3?
QUOTE]

helps with the hacking

and since ill have all the dex i need with just one drug why not?

[Dribble Joy]

Along the lines of what QD said.

Skill point efficiency:
Maximise it at all times.

For example, heavy inq boots, they are funky, much fire armour, you can loose some fire res! Weeee!.

BUT, are they point efficient?
Look at the setup, if you use them, how many pint do you 'get back', is it enough to replace the points in armour lost from using CHS Boots?
Takeout an item and replace it, try to get the same stats as with the old one, if you can with points to spare, then good, If you can't swap it back.

I have found that even on my Kami PE setup the CHS Boots are more point efficient than the light duranium boots, but I have about 100 energy with them, so I have to use the Dura to get up to 110.

Another example, exp leg bone.
You will find that almost invariably the gamma leg bone actually gives more con points.




Advanced neves 3?


helps with the hacking

and since ill have all the dex i need with just one drug why not?

Expreflex 4 = +15 agl

Hacking? you are a pistoller.

More dex = good, dex affects ROF.

Another thing, you are using br2.

What will happen to your FOR when a PPU gives you a haz/heat3?

[QuantumDelta]

[QUOTE=Dribble Joy]
Advanced neves 3?
QUOTE]

helps with the hacking

and since ill have all the dex i need with just one drug why not?
Don't use it for the love of GOD O_O

Drop your PSU down a bit and dump some of it into HCK (not a lot, I said SOME).

75 PPU, 50 MST, 23(?)PPW - base PSI.
NO VARIATION *unless you're really determined to just have MST43...then put the rest in PPW....

Drop the BQ Arm for a Anti Gamma Arm.
Drop the BQ Chest for a Anti-Gamma Chest.

CON Looks "alright".
With the exception of desperately needing more health (400 minimum recommended).

Drop the Beast - if you really need an STR Drug use something else.
Beast has a massive(for PE) HLT hit.

Drop the VKA for PE PA 3 (Ya I know individualism, but points wise PA will always be more effective, plus it'll help your DEX).

Consider Crahn Holy Shelter Boots over Heavy Inquisition Boots.

Readjust CON to suit new armor.
Possibly drop some POR.

That's should give you a good start toward tweakdom.

[LiL T]

hehe the only reason why I don't wear PA on my PE is not because I want to be different its just I keep dropping the damn things really annoying 150k a pop grrr

[Dribble Joy]

Remember heat/haz1 setup means you can cast blessed def with pa3 on :).

[Jest]

Thats a good first setup but it definitely needs some improvement. Gamma bone enforcements, less weapon lore, more body health, more energy resist. Thats a start. ;)

[PenguinNick]

Private Eye


INT:68 Base:60
HCK:100 Base:75
BRT:0 Base:0
PSU:82 Base:82
WEP:65 Base:67
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:4 Base:0
RCL:0 Base:0


DEX: 105 Base: 80
P-C:180 Base:150
R-C:0 Base:0
T-C:14 Base:0
VHC:0 Base:0
AGL:124 Base:38
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:0 Base:0


STR:68 Base:60
M-C:9 Base:9
H-C:6 Base:6
TRA:116 Base:116
FOR:113 Base:75


CON:65 Base:65
BodyHealth:364
Stamina:50
ATL:66 Base:30
HLT:93 Base:70
END:16 Base:0
FIR:35 Base:20
ENR:64 Base:49
XRR:70 Base:47
POR:92 Base:67


PSI:35 Base:35
PSI-Pool:98
PPU:75 Base:75
APU:0 Base:0
MST:48 Base:48
PPW:24 Base:24
PSR:0 Base:38



Implants:
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
Special Forces CPU
BIOTECH (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
PROTOPHARM RESISTOR CHIP
Pistol Combateye 3
Filter Heart 1
Experimental Reflexbooster 4
Crahn Power Gauntlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Biotech Antigamma Chest
Biotech Antigamma Armenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Legenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Footenforcement

Armor:
Inquisitionhelmet 3
Viper King Armor
Medium Energy Protection Belt
Inquisitiontrousers 3
Crahn Holy Shelter Boots

Buffs:
Crahn Pistol Combat Booster 1, Crahn Basic Resist Booster 2, Crahn Spy Booster 1
Crahn Shelter, Crahn Blessed Deflector

Drugs:
Redflash, Beast, Whiteflash


Armor:
Piercing: 217
Force: 164
Fire: 120
Energy: 120
Xray: 120
Poison: 120

Protection:
Piercing: 95%
Force: 95%
Fire: 90 - 95%
Energy: 90 - 95%
Xray: 90 - 95%
Poison: 70.71%

Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 6 - 4%
Force: 6 - 5%
Fire: 7 - 6%
Energy: 7 - 6%
Xray: 7 - 6%
Poison: 9.67%

[Dribble Joy]

One thing before I go to bed.

Night spider (if you use it) is -15 FOR.
As I implied, don't rely on the br2 (if you us it) FOR bonus.
So you are going to need 129 FOR before drugs.

//edit dude, heat/haz1 is 50 mst, not 48, br3 is, and you have 75 ppu, so I am assuming heat/haz1....

120 POR? why?
As QD said 400 hp min reallly.

Get rid of the beast, you don't need the agl and the hlt gain will be worth it.
inq2 is fine.
As I said, point efficiency, does the frankly minimal amount of fire res you get from using the inq3 worth the -10 hlt from the beast?

[QuantumDelta]

DJ - 75 PPU is there because I told him to I think :p

--
The reason I told him to, is because 75 is the most effective number a PEs PPU can go to.
Provides the most bonus.
After you reach 75 points that go anywhere other than PPW (until you reach 50 PPW anyway) are wasted points.
Excluding the MST Requirement.


And yea, as DJ said you don't need that much poison at all....

[PenguinNick]

DJ - 75 PPU is there because I told him to I think :p

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The reason I told him to, is because 75 is the most effective number a PEs PPU can go to.
Provides the most bonus.
After you reach 75 points that go anywhere other than PPW (until you reach 50 PPW anyway) are wasted points.
Excluding the MST Requirement.

nah had 75 there before, but i messed up on the MST, and on this next one here i changed the poison, I think this one really works

[PenguinNick]

Private Eye


INT:73 Base:60
HCK:100 Base:75
BRT:0 Base:0
PSU:94 Base:82
WEP:77 Base:67
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:4 Base:0
RCL:0 Base:0


DEX: 105 Base: 80
P-C:180 Base:150
R-C:0 Base:0
T-C:14 Base:0
VHC:0 Base:0
AGL:124 Base:38
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:0 Base:0


STR:68 Base:60
M-C:9 Base:9
H-C:6 Base:6
TRA:116 Base:116
FOR:98 Base:75


CON:65 Base:65
BodyHealth:435
Stamina:50
ATL:80 Base:44
HLT:108 Base:85
END:16Base:0
FIR:35 Base:0
ENR:64 Base:29
XRR:70 Base:47
POR:70 Base:60


PSI:40 Base:35
PSI-Pool:102
PPU:75 Base:75
APU:0 Base:0
MST:50 Base:50
PPW:22 Base:22
PSR:0 Base:38



Implants:
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
Special Forces CPU
BIOTECH (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
PROTOPHARM RESISTOR CHIP
Pistol Combateye 3
Filter Heart 1
Experimental Reflexbooster 4
Crahn Power Gauntlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Biotech Antigamma Chest
Biotech Antigamma Armenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Legenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Footenforcement

Armor:
Inquisitionhelmet 3
Viper King Armor
Medium Energy Protection Belt
Inquisitiontrousers 3
Crahn Holy Shelter Boots

Buffs:
Crahn Pistol Combat Booster 1, Crahn Heat Resist Booster 1, Crahn Spy Booster 1
Crahn Shelter , Crahn Blessed Deflector

Drugs:
Redflash, Beast, Whiteflash, Destrosol forte

Armor:
Piercing: 186
Force: 133
Fire: 120
Energy: 120
Xray: 120
Poison: 100

Protection:
Piercing: 95%
Force: 93 - 95%
Fire: 90 - 95%
Energy: 90 - 95%
Xray: 90 - 95%
Poison: 66.67%

Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 6 - 5%
Force: 7 - 5%
Fire: 7 - 6%
Energy: 7 - 6%
Xray: 7 - 6%
Poison: 11%

[QuantumDelta]

Better, now we just have to get you off the beast and onto the PEPA3 o.o

And watch your FOR :p

PEs get plenty spare mate ;)

[Dribble Joy]

DJ - 75 PPU is there because I told him to I think :p

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The reason I told him to, is because 75 is the most effective number a PEs PPU can go to.
Provides the most bonus.
After you reach 75 points that go anywhere other than PPW (until you reach 50 PPW anyway) are wasted points.
Excluding the MST Requirement.
ppw adds to dmg more than half that of ppu.
So even with ppu below 75 more ppw = teh win, untill ppu or ppw hits 50.

Max dmg on a shelter (using blessed def as well), is at 68 ppu, 43 mst 43 ppw (361% afaik).

[QuantumDelta]

edited; Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I need to test that........

[Dribble Joy]

Using tl9 def, max shelter dmg is at mst 31, ppw 50 ppu70, one point left over.

http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=69477

PPU Damage: 0.65(65%) PPU + 0.35(35%) PPW

[Jest]

Yes 68 points is optimum for %s. Just to clarify. :p

[PenguinNick]

Private Eye


INT:73 Base:60
HCK:100 Base:75
BRT:0 Base:0
PSU:94 Base:82
WEP:97 Base:67
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:4 Base:0
RCL:0 Base:0


DEX: 108 Base: 80
P-C:188 Base:150
R-C:0 Base:0
T-C:14 Base:0
VHC:0 Base:0
AGL:99 Base:38
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:0 Base:0


STR:63 Base:60
M-C:-16 Base:-16
H-C:6 Base:6
TRA:107 Base:107
FOR:113 Base:90


CON:65 Base:65
BodyHealth:435
Stamina:50
ATL:80 Base:44
HLT:108 Base:85
END:16Base:0
FIR:61 Base:26
ENR:40 Base:5
XRR:70 Base:47
POR:69 Base:59


PSI:38 Base:35
PSI-Pool:101
PPU:75 Base:75
APU:0 Base:0
MST:46 Base:50
PPW:22 Base:22
PSR:0 Base:38



Implants:
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
Special Forces CPU
BIOTECH (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
PROTOPHARM RESISTOR CHIP
Pistol Combateye 3
Filter Heart 1
Experimental Reflexbooster 4
Crahn Power Gauntlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Biotech Antigamma Chest
Biotech Antigamma Armenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Legenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Footenforcement

Armor:
Inquisitionhelmet 2
Tangent Close Range Battlesuit V-20
Medium Energy Protection Belt
Inquisitiontrousers 2
Crahn Holy Shelter Boots

Buffs:
Crahn Pistol Combat Booster 1, Crahn Heat Resist Booster 1, Crahn Spy Booster 1
Crahn Shelter, Crahn Blessed Deflector

Drugs:
Redflash,Whiteflash, Destrosol forte,


Armor:
Piercing: 208
Force: 173
Fire: 120
Energy: 120
Xray: 120
Poison: 62

Protection:
Piercing: 95%
Force: 95%
Fire: 90 - 95%
Energy: 90 - 95%
Xray: 90 - 95%
Poison: 41.33%

Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 6 - 4%
Force: 6 - 5%
Fire: 7 - 6%
Energy: 7 - 6%
Xray: 7 - 6%
Poison: 19.36%

And as far as i figure, my problem with PA was I didnt wanna get caught off guard having to take my PA off to buff myself so I'll just stay buffed :)

[VetteroX]

Just going to say I, and many other people look down on people who use a lot of drugs to operate their char... its just..... lame, like an athlete using steroids... its not really your true char. The only char I have that uses drugs is my spy, and he only uses 1, and I feel dirty every time I take it... I only allow myself to because almost every spy does and Im not going to put myself at disadvantage. Drugs are also only temporaril viable... sooner or later, that flash WILL cach up with you... most likely at the worst possible time.

[QuantumDelta]

Better.
Though you should be using the V-30 (potentially at that DEX you could use the V-40).
Do you really need 109 DEX when you're a low tech PE though? :p

[PenguinNick]

Do you really need 109 DEX when you're a low tech PE though? :p

I said no but i think it was DB who said it helps RoF and I shud get high dex

[QuantumDelta]

Well....it does help ....but not to the point where I'd be using two drugs just for the sake of it, with a high quality liberator and that much PC you'll probably get as close to the RoF Cap as you'll need anyway ;)
He's just a Judge Whore :p

[PenguinNick]

perhaps I shud do away with Redflash (Give me 63 Ath 77 Agl)

and gives me 10 more hlt points (463)

Plus I heard around 70 70 (ath / agl) is the best, so thats close

[LiL T]

Drugs:
Redflash,Whiteflash, Destrosol forte,

how long you gonna keep that up I know I could not be arsed to mess about with that and the cost of the drugs arrrgh and you still got anti shocks and stam boosts damage blockers to buy.

[PenguinNick]

I have the PA2 because it goes along with my energy resists, but i cud go with less poison and use PA 1 and put some more into energy you think?

I took 4 points from poison

Armor: 60
Protection: 40%
PvP Damage: 19.8%

and got my energy back up to where it was with PA 2

Is that better?

[QuantumDelta]

PA3 Gives more energy then PA2.
More is always better o_O
Use PA 3 dude, the bonuses far out weigh the little PSI malus :p
Ignore that deleted line if you saw it, mis-read your post.

[PenguinNick]

PA3 Gives more energy then PA2.
More is always better o_O
Stop obsessing over poison!!! O_O


well to be honest, I was thinking (after gettign yelled at several times about the poison)

dropping the PA period and using Titan armor, and keeping my resists at 120, and getting around 500 hp, lemme try that out real quick

[Jest]

perhaps I shud do away with Redflash (Give me 63 Ath 77 Agl)

and gives me 10 more hlt points (463)

Plus I heard around 70 70 (ath / agl) is the best, so thats close Redflash no longer takes Body Health. It takes 10 psi use now.

[PenguinNick]

INT:73 Base:60
HCK:100 Base:75
BRT:0 Base:0
PSU:94 Base:82
WEP:97 Base:67
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:4 Base:0
RCL:0 Base:0


DEX: 100 Base: 80
P-C:180 Base:150
R-C:0 Base:0
T-C:14 Base:0
VHC:0 Base:0
AGL:77 Base:38
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:0 Base:0


STR:63 Base:60
M-C:-16 Base:-16
H-C:6 Base:6
TRA:107 Base:107
FOR:113 Base:90


CON:65 Base:65
BodyHealth:474
Stamina:50
ATL:63 Base:44
HLT:123 Base:90
END:16Base:0
FIR:44 Base:9
ENR:53 Base:18
XRR:67 Base:44
POR:65 Base:55


PSI:40 Base:35
PSI-Pool:102
PPU:75 Base:75
APU:0 Base:0
MST:50 Base:50
PPW:22 Base:22
PSR:0 Base:38



Implants:
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
Special Forces CPU
BIOTECH (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
PROTOPHARM RESISTOR CHIP
Pistol Combateye 3
Filter Heart 1
Experimental Reflexbooster 4
Crahn Power Gauntlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Biotech Antigamma Chest
Biotech Antigamma Armenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Legenforcement
Biotech Antigamma Footenforcement

Armor:
Inquisitionhelmet 2
Titan Armor
Medium Energy Protection Belt
Crahn Holy Shelter Throusers
Crahn Holy Shelter Boots

Buffs:
Crahn Pistol Combat Booster 1, Crahn Heat Resist Booster 1, Crahn Spy Booster 1
Crahn Shelter - Crahn Blessed Deflector

Drugs:
Whiteflash, Destrosol forte


Armor:
Piercing: 204
Force: 149
Fire: 120
Energy: 120
Xray: 120
Poison: 59

Protection:
Piercing: 95%
Force: 95%
Fire: 90 - 95%
Energy: 90 - 95%
Xray: 90 - 95%
Poison: 39.33%

Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 6 - 4%
Force: 6 - 5%
Fire: 7 - 6%
Energy: 7 - 6%
Xray: 7 - 6%
Poison: 20.02%

[QuantumDelta]

PEPA3.
I'm outta here :p

[Jest]

Ok out of curiosity, do you really have an SA and Titan armor? Maybe those things flow like honey on other servers, but the fact that you are even considering them in your first ever setup is a little hard to grasp.

[PenguinNick]

Ok out of curiosity, do you really have an SA and Titan armor? Maybe those things flow like honey on other servers, but the fact that you are even considering them in your first ever setup is a little hard to grasp.

Yes I have both, on saturn SAs (while still hard to get) can be gotten because people have PPU alts where as on Pluto their harder to get because of the 1 char thing

Titan Armor is easy of course, I heard on pluto the queen only spawns when a GM spawns her, on saturn she spawns when u reset the cave

[Gohei]

You got all those valuable things and can't get hold of a FH2 O_o

[LiL T]

Getting tips on setup is all good but your own way of setting up a PE so that it suits your style of combat is better than any setup other people have as you will find when start PvPing with your char thats when you fine tune

[PenguinNick]

You got all those valuable things and can't get hold of a FH2 O_o


Valuable... whats valuable ^^

[SirRah]

hey no offence but my high tech PE (89 tc, 190 pc) gets with 3 drugs (one more than you have) slightly better resists, more dex, more PC, more speed, and about 50 less hp. O_o

if you really wanna drugs use redflash and nightspider (gives +5 psi).

also use fh2 and exp foot.

and get rid of monk armor o_O

[Jest]

and get rid of monk armor o_O The armor setup he posted is the exact same one I use. I assure you mate, its quite effective.
;)

[Sigma]

1. Drugs aren't that bad, hmmkay?

2. consider Med-Dura Boots

3. i wouldn't spec poison on my pe (got 35 atm from haz1/FH2)

[naimex]

For those that care..

Here are those setups y´all have been saying wasn´t viable :

my setups : (plz note only tank got full capped and pe got 13 dex from cap, so those 2 setups are the only I´ve tried, and found useable)

But this was what my chars were going to look like when they were capped.

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Tank


INT:17 Base:20
HCK:0 Base:0
BRT:-8 Base:0
PSU:5 Base:5
WEP:85 Base:75
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:0 Base:0
RCL:0 Base:0


DEX: 61 Base: 70
P-C:-10 Base:0
R-C:-10 Base:0
T-C:89 Base:85
VHC:0 Base:0
AGL:115 Base:111
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:0 Base:0


STR:124 Base:100
M-C:49 Base:49
H-C:215 Base:215
TRA:19 Base:19
FOR:51 Base:3


CON:113 Base:100
BodyHealth:536
Stamina:50
ATL:45 Base:55
HLT:118 Base:55
END:48Base:0
FIR:90 Base:75
ENR:90 Base:75
XRR:80 Base:75
POR:60 Base:75


PSI:10 Base:10
PSI-Pool:42
PPU:22 Base:22
APU:0 Base:0
MST:6 Base:6
PPW:19 Base:19
PSR:0 Base:111



Implants:
Berserk Chip 3
BIOTECH (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
PROTOPHARM RESISTOR CHIP
Marine's CPU
Melee Combateye 3
Experimental Heart 2
Hardenbackbone 3
Crahn Power Gauntlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Bat Queen Chestenforcment
Biotech Antigamma Armenforcement
Experimental Legenforcement
Experimental Footenforcement

Armor:
Duraniumhelmet 4
Powersuit Tangent vx256
Medium Energyfieldbelt
Inquisitiontrousers 4
Heavy-Inquisitionboots

Buffs:
Crahn Heavy Combat Booster 1, Crahn Basic Resist Booster 1, --none--
--none-- foreigncast, Crahn Deflector foreigncast

Drugs:
--none--, --none--, --none--, --none--, --none--


Armor:
Piercing: 170 Force: 188 Fire: 158 Energy: 169 Xray: 101 Poison: 54
Protection:
Piercing: 88 - 90% Force: 89 - 91% Fire: 73,55% Energy: 74,17% Xray: 67,57% Poison: 36%
Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 7% Force: 7 - 6% Fire: 8,73% Energy: 8,52% Xray: 10,7% Poison: 21,12%

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Private Eye


INT:67 Base:60
HCK:10 Base:0
BRT:0 Base:0
PSU:65 Base:65
WEP:139 Base:110
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:0 Base:0
RCL:0 Base:0


DEX: 106 Base: 80
P-C:165 Base:135
R-C:13 Base:0
T-C:98 Base:65
VHC:0 Base:0
AGL:77 Base:33
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:0 Base:0


STR:57 Base:60
M-C:-34 Base:-34
H-C:-16 Base:-16
TRA:92 Base:92
FOR:114 Base:99


CON:70 Base:65
BodyHealth:432
Stamina:50
ATL:75 Base:60
HLT:105 Base:75
END:53Base:0
FIR:30 Base:30
ENR:40 Base:40
XRR:55 Base:65
POR:0 Base:0


PSI:31 Base:35
PSI-Pool:96
PPU:75 Base:75
APU:0 Base:0
MST:36 Base:44
PPW:28 Base:28
PSR:0 Base:33



Implants:
Motoric Chip 3
Balanceadvancer 3
Special Forces CPU
Distance Weapon CPU 3
Smart Cybereye 4
Experimental Heart 2
Experimental Reflexbooster 4
Crahn Power Gauntlet

Biotech Antigamma Headbone
Bat Queen Chestenforcment
Biotech Antigamma Armenforcement
Experimental Legenforcement
Experimental Footenforcement

Armor:
Inquisitionhelmet 2
Tangent Close Range Battlesuit V-40
Medium Energy Protection Belt
Inquisitiontrousers 2
Medium-Inquisitionboots

Buffs:
Crahn Pistol Combat Booster 1, Crahn Basic Resist Booster 2, --none--
Crahn Shelter selfcast, Crahn Deflector selfcast

Drugs:
--none--, --none--, --none--, --none--, --none--


Armor:
Piercing: 226 Force: 224 Fire: 112 Energy: 114 Xray: 76 Poison: 0
Protection:
Piercing: 90 - 92% Force: 90 - 92% Fire: 89 - 94% Energy: 89 - 95% Xray: 64 - 68% Poison: 0%
Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 6% Force: 6% Fire: 7 - 6% Energy: 7 - 6% Xray: 12 - 11% Poison: 33%

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PSI-Monk


INT:106 Base:100
HCK:0 Base:0
BRT:0 Base:0
PSU:207 Base:167
WEP:4 Base:0
CST:0 Base:0
RES:0 Base:0
IMP:0 Base:0
RCL:0 Base:0


DEX: 34 Base: 35
P-C:0 Base:0
R-C:0 Base:0
T-C:4 Base:0
VHC:0 Base:0
AGL:87 Base:102
REP:0 Base:0
REC:0 Base:0
WPW:0 Base:0


STR:19 Base:20
M-C:7 Base:7
H-C:2 Base:2
TRA:13 Base:13
FOR:63 Base:70


CON:51 Base:45
BodyHealth:330
Stamina:50
ATL:45 Base:40
HLT:88 Base:70
END:15Base:0
FIR:50 Base:50
ENR:0 Base:0
XRR:50 Base:50
POR:-15 Base:0


PSI:119 Base:100
PSI-Pool:283
PPU:-40 Base:0
APU:175 Base:139
MST:87 Base:82
PPW:81 Base:56
PSR:0 Base:102



Implants:
PSI Attack Chip 3
Experimental PSI Controler 3
PSI Core CPU
BIOTECH (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
Smart Cybereye 1
Advanced Heart 2
Strength Booster 1
Crahn Power Gauntlet

BioTech Headbone
Biotech Chest
Biotech Armenforcement
Biotech Legenforcement
Biotech Footenforcement

Armor:
Crahn Holy Spirit Helmet
Spirit Crahn PowerCloak APU
Crahn Holy Spirit Belt
Crahn Holy Spirit Throusers
Crahn Holy Spirit Boots

Buffs:
--none--, --none--, --none--
--none-- foreigncast, --none-- foreigncast

Drugs:
--none--, --none--, --none--, --none--, --none--


Armor:
Piercing: 121 Force: 137 Fire: 103 Energy: 188 Xray: 87 Poison: -14
Protection:
Piercing: 70,81% Force: 72,16% Fire: 68,23% Energy: 75,14% Xray: 58% Poison: 0%
Remaining PvP DMG:
Piercing: 9,63% Force: 9,19% Fire: 10,48% Energy: 8,2% Xray: 13,86% Poison: 33%

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I never got around to make a setup for my spy...

[Morganth]

I would post my PEs setup, but I am currently reworking it as high-tech kinda gimps CON setup a litte. But when its all done my 117 DEX PE will look quite nice standing next to a Pistol Spy using the same wep. :p

[Sigma]

btw. keep the Adv. Nerves 3 if u want to use heavy belts :O

[QuantumDelta]

btw. keep the Adv. Nerves 3 if u want to use heavy belts :O
Heavy belts are INT 99 / 98 dude o_O
PEs can use 'em but they have to be druggies for it.

Naimex -- those setups ain't bad, but the PE one could do with some tweakage (look at this thread for a start :), the Tank could really use one or two changes but would probably work well like that...

And that PPU really needs tweakage... :/

[Dribble Joy]

2. consider Med-Dura Boots
The str req on those is about str 70, so as with the the heavy belts... erm.. no.

Re the dex thing.
That was a usefull side effect of the expreflex4, the agl was the more important factor.

I am a judge 'whore', but none of my setup have ever had more than 104 dex, my current one has 100 with RF, just enough.

[Sigma]

Heavy belts are INT 99 / 98 dude o_O
PEs can use 'em but they have to be druggies for it.[...]i never said that it would be easy OR viable to use them :p


The str req on those is about str 70, so as with the the heavy belts... erm.. no.
STR 67

i use moveon

and

i use x-strong for inq and dura 3

so

Yes

:p

[Dribble Joy]

Drugging to keep armour on, especially with a 5 min drug...

I used to do it with my kami, destrol forte for the int for the light energy.
I almost went insane, so I switched to a smart cybereye 4, loosing 9 agl, but bloody hell, was it worth it.

btw, chs stuff > duranit.
Why you are using duranit over inq I don't know, PA and the boots and a med energy belt should get you close to 80 energy.