Reload time of guns and some math

[rob444]

I think Bugs Gunny is right, I didn't know that the reloading time was 10 seconds (wtf?), sounds awfully a lot to me. But as Matthew.v.smith said, you actually have to try to aim properly now. I and 80% of the community probably wants the old reloading time back, much more fun...

Bugs Gunny is also right when he says monks are going to be #1 in op wars now. With the current reloading time, I probably prefer monks and droners, snipers is ok I guess.

[retr0n]

Well, the statement "well now you have to aim properly" doesn't work. I play a
lowtech PE using pain easer/tsu rifle/termi on my rifle and libby/wyatt on pistol.
Now, take the libby for example, no matter how good aim you have you will miss
alot of your shots, even standing still shooting someone at point blank your shot
ratio will be about 75:25.

This would favour non-locational weapons alot more, like healing light, beam of hell,
ray weapons etc, while lowtech will suffer hard, and plasma right along with it.

[E. Cryton]

bugs, u'r sure about the 10 seconds reload on slasher?
i was just fighting some pe at military base on alfred jodokus and every reload took like 4, 5 seconds. but never 10 seconds ...

[[PiN]Fluffy]

Well, the statement "well now you have to aim properly" doesn't work. I play a
lowtech PE using pain easer/tsu rifle/termi on my rifle and libby/wyatt on pistol.
Now, take the libby for example, no matter how good aim you have you will miss
alot of your shots, even standing still shooting someone at point blank your shot
ratio will be about 75:25.

This would favour non-locational weapons alot more, like healing light, beam of hell,
ray weapons etc, while lowtech will suffer hard, and plasma right along with it.

SAVE THE PvPer's!!! NO MORE LONG RELOADS!SAVE THE PvPer's!!! NO MORE LONG RELOADS!SAVE THE PvPer's!!! NO MORE LONG RELOADS!SAVE THE PvPer's!!! NO MORE LONG RELOADS!SAVE THE PvPer's!!! NO MORE LONG RELOADS!

[BlackDove]

From what I see there seems to be a time difference between reloading in 1st and reloading in 3rd person mode.

Can anyone confirm this?

[Asurmen Spec Op]

From what I see there seems to be a time difference between reloading in 1st and reloading in 3rd person mode.

Can anyone confirm this?

It looks like it but I dont belive so


Anyone who thinks this doesnt gimp PVP, is a MORON

Flat out.
Go get an APU/PPU team, shoot the APU.
Oh no! with the time it takes to reload your dead before you can get to 2nd clip!

[Terayon]

http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=130085

And imo it's a nice tactic to get used to, you can now actually take your time and place your shots with accuracy or face the consequences of a long reload as the guy/girl your fighting totaly owns you, I like it, in fact it seems "right"

Ah so aparently if im accurate its all good then?

Alright lets see how my nf fights went with another pe. Me using TSU, him using Judge. I hit every burst on him exept one, reload, wait 15 seconds to reload, heal, and by the time im shooting again my oponent has most his hp back again. No, accuracy just dousent cut it right now.

Though i realy realy like the new street model rifle. Looks so awsome with the drum mag. (atleast thats what i think it is )

[vashtyphoon78]

This is what happened to me last night- Me and asurmen where taking down the Legacy boss- i pulled out my gat to reload ***Screams*** oh look...im dead...

[forcefullpower]

All i can simply say is APU's need recticles and line of sight..

It's as simple as that.

[BlackDove]

They need a lot more than that

[Ryen]

I like the reloading time as it is since it actually gives players an oppertunity to run and heal. However, I agree that monks will be really, really overpowered; drug flash won't hurt them, since they could still easily cast with that. I say we lower time it takes for psi boosters to finish increasing the psi pool, and have monks wait for psi boosters to finish increasing their psi pool before casting agian. Effectivly giving psi monks a "reload time".

[Selendor]

I reloaded my judge last night and it seemed to be a much more involved animation than before. I was in 1st person. They haven't made this change to allow for the fancy reload animation have they?

Can someone go on and test the reload time between 1st and 3rd person?

[Bugs Gunny]

It's funny how most of you fail to see all the consequences of this actual nerf for reticleusing weapons.
It throws ALL aspects that have to do with using your weapon out of ballance.
KK spent years trying to get it to where it is now. The only thing that needs fixing is the unproportional influence ppus have on different classes.

I hope you all enjoy your "nice emote", since i'm sure you'll cry to get it "fixed" within the week. First apu you meet you'll start cursing.

[Ryen]

Bugs, I see what this has caused, I just think I'm slightly more level headed about this than you are since I didn't go around shooting everything in sight. The reloading times are shit, yes. But the animations are great, and I would like to keep them that way (and I'm sure KK would too). Hunting with a longer reloading time isn't a big deal to me, since it might positivly impact the economy, since you won't be able to farm rares as much anymore.

On the other hand, PPU's/APU's are completely over powered, even moreso than before. My previous statement is the only thing I can see that deals with this properly. Find the longest reloading time, cause psi-boosters to take this long to "reload" the monk.

[Matthew.v.smith]

Ah so aparently if im accurate its all good then?

Alright lets see how my nf fights went with another pe. Me using TSU, him using Judge. I hit every burst on him exept one, reload, wait 15 seconds to reload, heal, and by the time im shooting again my oponent has most his hp back again. No, accuracy just dousent cut it right now.

Though i realy realy like the new street model rifle. Looks so awsome with the drum mag. (atleast thats what i think it is )

I know for sure that TSU doesent take 15 seconds to reload, I use a PainEaser and counted the time it takes, something like 5 or 6 seconds, maybe less, try healing and then reloading, that works fine for me.