What do you think of Evo then?

**MasterChief** · 02-12-05, 11:30

Originally Posted by PiewPiew

nailgun reload time in first person mode: 12 fucking seconds.

monks do the most damage of ANY class
monks take the least damage of ANY class
monks don't need a line of sight
monks dont have a reticle
monks don't take 10 seconds to reload a gun

why play a non-monk?

cause a monk cant do all those at once?

**E. Cryton** · 02-12-05, 11:30

what i think about evo ?
medkits not activatable when they're in quickbelt.
heal is not working.
primes/sd casting after 3 seconds.
horrible graphic issues.

i hate it.

**SorkZmok** · 02-12-05, 11:30

Originally Posted by mdares

apus do most dmg of any class
ppus take least dmg of any class (other than a ppu buffed/healed tank)
***APUS AND PPUS ARE DIFFERENT FFS! THEY ARE ALL MONKS BUT YOU CANT BE WTFUBERPWNT AT BOTH*** (hybs dunt count cuz blessed hyb dmg is laughable altho they have good survivability; HL hybs do good dmg with dmgboost but defenses are only barely on par with that of a PE, most times less)
monks need LoS like anyone; only time when u dont is if u go 3rd person and tilt the camera.
monks dont have a reticle because we use our MIND to target rather than aiming with eye and hand.
monks dont take 10 secs to reload a gun because we dont have a gun; it takes us 20 seconds to recover our psi pool to full. while we can keep shooting if we want, our psi pool will depelete even quicker and our RoF is halved.

its fine. learn to play.

First off, hybrids. Blessed hyb damage may be laughable but because of their blessed heal you will die in the end. And APU hybs can get PE defence and still outdamage every PE. Not to forget, they don't have to aim/reload.

Monks DO NOT need LoS. Every other gun will do zero damage when the target is actually not in a LoS (on the server) whereas HL will still hit for full damage. Because of the stupidly shit netcode, this is another HUGE advantage monks got.

And it's not about OMG MY MIND DON'T NEED RELOAD!1, it's about balance. The time i need to relaod my gun is enough for an APU to waste me. Even with halfed freq, they can hit me and i can't hit them. Or just heal, stealth, drug, whatfuckingever. So stop talking out of your ass, monks are completely unbalanced. Now even more.

It's not fine. Learn to accept that your favorite class is overpowered.

**E. Cryton** · 02-12-05, 11:33

"kid, stop whining, learn to play your class"

i'm pretty sure anyone will reply something like this ...
and i'm really sure this "anyone" will be a monklover

.

Originally Posted by SorkZmok

Learn to accept that your favorite class is overpowered.

and now take a guess why its the favorite class...

**Selendor** · 02-12-05, 11:45

Having played around on it for a few hours last night, overall I think its a good patch. Compared to other patches there has been no need for a hotfix, the bug thread isn't exactly overflowing with problems.

Saying that, the darkness isn't quite right, I hope they fix that soon, certain parts of the landscape and rpos are too dark compared to everything else.

Also, the things they have added would never have made my top 10 list of improvements I would like to see in Neocron. It doesn't really change much does it. The only thing I like the sound of is the directions the factions are taking, back to a Neocron 1 style complex relationship, as opposed the red vs blue cack we've had for the past year.

**LaZyBoY** · 02-12-05, 12:54

Originally Posted by hinch

naah only FF need 2 apus to kill a ppu

everyone else's good apu's only need one tbh

Haters

**E. Cryton** · 02-12-05, 13:05

k, now i really hate evo.
my apu is at -55 sl, coz i killed a single pro city (i'm dre, had +11 sl)
my rifle spy is at -46 coz i killed a single pro city (i'm cm, had +7 sl)

how embarassing.

**Matthew.v.smith** · 02-12-05, 13:10

Originally Posted by DIS

What does everyone think of the new Evo patch then?

I think KK has made a serious step in the right direction releasing this patch, and although I will have to get used to the new soul light rules I think they have done a really good job improving the OZ and the FPS, runs very smooth now in full detail (getting over 60fps most of the time.) And the Speed gat sounds just like the mini gun in terminator 2, very nice touch.

If KK can keep releasing content of this quality and work on those mem leaks maybe we will start to see some serious population increases

I'll second that..

**E. Cryton** · 02-12-05, 13:44

if his post was meant to be ironic i have to second that as well ...

**BlackDove** · 02-12-05, 14:20

Originally Posted by E. Cryton

k, now i really hate evo.
my apu is at -55 sl, coz i killed a single pro city (i'm dre, had +11 sl)
my rifle spy is at -46 coz i killed a single pro city (i'm cm, had +7 sl)

how embarassing.

Good to know that the new implementations are working.

**Shia** · 02-12-05, 14:22

Originally Posted by E. Cryton

k, now i really hate evo.
my apu is at -55 sl, coz i killed a single pro city (i'm dre, had +11 sl)
my rifle spy is at -46 coz i killed a single pro city (i'm cm, had +7 sl)

how embarassing.

thats the whole fricking point , u kill your OWN , you will be punished HARD for it.

**Mr Kot** · 02-12-05, 14:26

Originally Posted by Spoon

I find it unplayable at the moment....

Cant see a damn thing.....

Regardless of what I adjust ingame or my on video card(desktop and Full Screen 3D).....

It's just waaaayyyy too dark.

Buy a flashlight. They're quite cheap, so i'm told.

I think it's more realistic now that people cant gain an advantage over others in dark sectors / outdoors at night by pumping their gamma to the max. It's a bit like the old advantage of one player having vegetation on, and another having it off. Now we're all on an even footing. I run DX9 in full screen and i dont have a problem seeing things. Sure, it's a little darker at night, and that's the way it's meant to be. You just have to travel more slowly and watch where you're going more... just like RL. Also try lowering the lights in the room where you play.

Originally Posted by E.Cryton

k, now i really hate evo.
my apu is at -55 sl, coz i killed a single pro city (i'm dre, had +11 sl)
my rifle spy is at -46 coz i killed a single pro city (i'm cm, had +7 sl)

Stop killing your own side then

Read the zone rules carefully before you kill anyone. If you really must kill your own allies (or neutrals for that matter) go to battlefields or the wastelands which are more lawless. Oh, and don't kill anybody in apartments or levelling in dungeons either. Better still... perish the thought... leave the city and kill reds.

**Napalm82** · 02-12-05, 14:31

I like the new patch, the models are nice, havent crashed yet, and my FPS is great everywhere now.

One thing tho...the sound of my Uzi is...well...sucky, to say the least.
It used to sound like a real uzi on steoroids, and now it sounds like popcorn.

Other than that, great patch.

- Nap

**Bugs Gunny** · 02-12-05, 14:34

Originally Posted by Shia

thats the whole fricking point , u kill your OWN , you will be punished HARD for it.

How about the way the stuck it to CM from the rear end?
I guess CM are now nothing but stageprops, since hey.... we kill one we ALLWAYS lose sl, and with the current drops of sl it's not even funny anymore.

**E. Cryton** · 02-12-05, 14:39

Originally Posted by Shia

thats the whole fricking point , u kill your OWN , you will be punished HARD for it.

u dont got it.
i'm cm. i kill pro city. do i kill my own? NO, READ MY FUCKING POST.´
honestly, citymercs are getting punished for roleplaying atm.

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